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So Apple wants a lower price for content that they don't produce while they charge higher, than industry standard, prices for their hardware.

So Apple is fighting to give us better prices yet we will have people here complaining about their hardware prices. Give them a break, they make wonderful unique devices, that have first class tech support and receive years of free updates. Their products usually last longer and work better than competitors. So just give it a rest.
 
Digital content is the same price as physical, yet has no manufacturing or transport costs, nor chance of overstocking that need clearing at a loss, and has negligible storage costs in comparison. The customer gets a worse deal as well with fractured viewing options for all owned content, lower quality, and no resale options. Digital content is rarely at a price I will pay (although I have bought some when the price was right). I think the same is true for many. Prices need to be lower.

It's the same for computer games. So many times the digital download is $100, while I can buy in store a physical copy for $79, that I can then resell later. Seems bizarre.
 
The only reason they can charge money at all is because their films are protected by copyright. IMHO, pricing should reflect that you're accessing their copyrighted material and not reflect the resolution of your TV. That is, 480p, 1080p, and 2160p (4k) should cost the same.
 
Any suggestion that Apple might bundle a movie/TV streaming all-in package, a la Apple Music?

Surely that's the only way to compete with Amazon, Netflix, etc..?

'Apple Movies': 19.99 a month. All movies and tv box sets included, for streaming.
 
If they are charging $30 for 4k and $20 for HD and its a movie I want to buy then i'll just buy the HD. I'm not paying more than $20 for a movie. And as far as theatrical releases go, there is no movie i'm going to pay $50 for even if its out the same day as in the theater. I don't go to the theater anymore and I'm not going to pay theater prices. I have learned to be patient. I will wait and either rent for $6 or wait longer and watch on Netflix for $0
 
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So Apple wants a lower price for content that they don't produce while they charge higher, than industry standard, prices for their hardware.
You keep repeating the mantra without understanding and comparing Kia to a Merzedes price -- Find me a comparable product of the same quality components. You do realise an SSD disk with 300 Mbit transfer rate is much less useful than one with 3000 Mbit, with low power memory, perfect speakers, the best touchpad. Lowest repair rate in industry. etc.
 
Only on MacRumors can you read comments on any article about AppleTV, for years, about how Apple has failed because they didn't offer a 4K AppleTV last time. Now that it appears that they are going to actually sell an AppleTV 4K, all the comments are about how people won't pay for or don't care about 4k content.

Only on MacRumors.
 
Any suggestion that Apple might bundle a movie/TV streaming all-in package, a la Apple Music?

Surely that's the only way to compete with Amazon, Netflix, etc..?

'Apple Movies': 19.99 a month. All movies and tv box sets included, for streaming.

If they're having trouble getting movie studies on board with selling 4k movies for $20, I highly doubt they're going to get them on board for a subscription model that includes all movies and tv shows on iTunes for $20/month.
 
Didn't apple go through this same debacle recently in regards to music? 4K content, both streaming and physical media are actually selling better than blu-ray was in the early stages. I doubt the studios cave on this.

4k is selling for around the same price (or even lower) than bluray launched at. Bluray prices have dropped significantly since launch.

That is effectively what Apple are tryign to do - maybe dropping the prices of HD content and making space to put 4k in at the current HD price point.
 
Digital content is the same price as physical, yet has no manufacturing or transport costs, nor chance of overstocking that need clearing at a loss, and has negligible storage costs in comparison. The customer gets a worse deal as well with fractured viewing options for all owned content, lower quality, and no resale options. Digital content is rarely at a price I will pay (although I have bought some when the price was right). I think the same is true for many. Prices need to be lower.

Not entirely accurate. Apple still needs the servers & internet connection to store & transmit the movies, but your intent is correct. It seems to me that selling movies is far cheaper online than in stores.

I agree with those saying BluRays (and DVDs before that) have way better quality than streaming. Plus, physical media has a whole bunch of extra features like gag reels, documentaries, multiple language tracks, etc. Plus, I remember when new DVDs were about $10-20, about.
 
I remember paying $40-50 for a laserdisc. :rolleyes:

I still own about 35 LDs and a Pioneer player! Pretty much been stored for the last decade, figured at some point I'll stumble onto someone with an interest and give it away :D

Some good stuff too: Kurosawa Criterion releases, boxed Aliens, Raiders, Jedi, etc.


how to get people to torrent 4K movies. an instruction by Hollywood and apple.

Yeah, but what's the price threshold for people who are going to (and capable of) do this? I've been in tech for a _long_ time, and I've seen it again-and-again: once someone gets access to free, even $5 seems to much. Will piracy really be notably curtailed with $10 4K releases vs. $20? Maybe at $5 vs. $25 it takes a big decline?


The only reason they can charge money at all is because their films are protected by copyright. IMHO, pricing should reflect that you're accessing their copyrighted material and not reflect the resolution of your TV. That is, 480p, 1080p, and 2160p (4k) should cost the same.

There is some difference in cost in terms of infrastructure, i.e., storage, bandwidth. Do I think there should be a radical price difference? No, but there is _some_ business consideration for providing 4K in addition to HD and SD.
 
Heh, I won't pay 20 for a movie, much less 30...on itunes. I may get a 4k bluray for 30 but it has to be worthwhile.

What does 4k in iTunes even mean?
Are we talking real 4k HDR Bluray quality or garbage low-bitrate streaming-like 4k which looks even worse than some 1080p blurays?

For 4k HDR Bluray quality I would consider 15 to 20$.
For the latter... 10$? Like maybe.
 
Apple can charge whatever they want, but until I buy a 4k TV, this really does not affect me. I maybe rent one HD movie a month. But for the most part, I'm okay with waiting until a film comes out on HBO, Starz or Showtime to watch it.
 
Just save your money and get a projector instead. Best investment I've made. No need for 4K.

Agreed. Also, contrast and color matter more than 4k. Which is why a 1080p OLED looks better than a regular 4k Tv.
 
Not that I agree with movie prices, but I can tell a lot of people are out of touch with the cost of 4K movies. They regularly start between $25-$30.
 
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