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I don't mind Apple saying please use Apple chargers or use certified third party chargers. I'm still free to use a well-regarded non-certified third party charger eg Anker.

What I object to is the sheer flood of fake Apple chargers on Amazon and eBay. It's been over a decade since I swore never to buy an Apple charger off the internet, yet Apple has done nothing to stem this flood.

Fake Apple-branded laptop chargers, fake Apple-branded watch chargers, fake Apple-branded USB chargers for iPhones, the flood is never-ending. And I don't see any signs that Apple is putting any pressure on Amazon / eBay to deal with it.
So you're mad at Apple because shady companies are making cheap knockoffs of their products and profiting from selling them?
 
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Apple Watches aren't $1000 (unless you get the Hermes model)
Not true at all, you can buy the stainless steal option with a LINK bracelet and that's 1,049 not including tax. Even the Ultra starts at $799 and with Apple Care you'll pay $990.05 and both of those aren't Hermes models so there's no need to be rude because you think you have a smart response and your wrong on top of that
 
I’m confused by some of the labeling in apple’s support doc. Can you use an iPhone MagSafe to charge an Apple Watch? I thought that the same magnetic charger can charge a watch and airpods Pro 2. But what charging device would clamp to apply to “Watch | iPhone | MagSafe” (travel charger?) or “iPhone | iPad | iPod | Apple Watch”??
As far as I know the iPhone charger isn't the same. Even the Apple charger they sell that has both a iPhone and watch charger are both different and different size. I would only use chargers intended for that device.
 
Not true at all, you can buy the stainless steal option with a LINK bracelet and that's 1,049 not including tax. Even the Ultra starts at $799 and with Apple Care you'll pay $990.05 and both of those aren't Hermes models so there's no need to be rude because you think you have a smart response and your wrong on top of that
Optional AppleCare does not mean the Ultra isn’t $799, but you are correct that you can buy a SS S9 which costs $1049.
 
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How would this reduce the battery’s lifespan?

Batteries can be sensitive to how quickly they are charged, how much "pressure" is placed onto them, etc. A poorly-designed (or cheap) charger often violates these specifications and the battery loses its capacity to hold a charge as a result of this repeated abuse.
 
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Correct, but they are strongly recommending to use theirs or MFi chargers. Basically saying use ones where they make money.

They strongly recommend using chargers that have been reviewed and verified as being compliant. Non-MFi charges may also adhere to the specifications, but there's no guarantee, and hence the risk.
 
There are lots of posts in the AW forum of folks complaining about charging problems with 3rd party cables, esp fast charging, so maybe this is a good thing.
pay that much for a device. Why buy anything but then use a cheap accessory? I had my Apple 4 series and only used an Apple charging pad for the Apple watch. I had 85 percent battery life up recently. People want different ways to charge the device. but in the end, it always ends badly.
 
SO it apple that has implemented the annoying chime that repeats over and over. I don't appreciate being forced to change with an apple overpriced cable. Is there any 3 or 4 in one that works?
Awhile ago, I bought a used Series 4 from Woot because I was going thru this crap with my Series 3 Updating an Apple Watch Series 3 is a nightmare in 2021 (until they fixed eventually, after I already had my used Series 4).

I figured the puck that it came with was genuine but yeah, I do have the chime over and over problem w/charging stopping and starting. Not sure when it started but it's been going on for many months, if not longer.

Thanks to the above article, well, the puck doesn't show up at all when hooked up to my Mac when I look under USB in System Report. I guess mine isn't genuine. It also doesn't have any markings on the cable. The puck is white but metal on the back. I recall my Series 0 genuine puck was white plastic all around.

I'm annoyed as I don't want to pay $29 for a genuine Apple puck as I will probably be upgrading when Series 4 can no longer receive updates. Maybe that'll happen in a year or so...

https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/best-apple-watch-chargers-and-stands/ likes a model from UGREEN that claims to be MFi-certified but it's OOS and I don't know the price.

I'm looking for a charging cable that's MFi-certified and cheaper than Apple's $29 ones.
 
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They need to make a nice :apple: watch stand for those chargers.
mine sits helplessly on the desk……
I've been using this for five years on a couple different watches.

 
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Actually that only looks painful because the market is flooded with subpar garbage so the median price has gone down.

Cables used to be really expensive.

Not only that if you take your shagged cables back to an Apple Store they will give you new ones. I've been rinsing them yearly for the same lightning cable since around 2015.

Anyway in this case it's not just a cable. There's a microcontroller and a whole wireless charging stack in this cable so it's not just a cable.
Seems like other manifacturer can make it for cheaper and still get mini certified, so even paying the Apple tax they are cheaper than the original one .

that means Apple is purposely making it expensive to begin with.

you make it sound like that microcontroller is some advanced tech…..

People would do anything to defend Apple, if any other manufacturer sold a 10 cm could for that much would get mocked in here before you could say the company name.
 
Seems like other manifacturer can make it for cheaper and still get mini certified, so even paying the Apple tax they are cheaper than the original one .

that means Apple is purposely making it expensive to begin with.

you make it sound like that microcontroller is some advanced tech…..

People would do anything to defend Apple, if any other manufacturer sold a 10 cm could for that much would get mocked in here before you could say the company name.
I agree that Apple’s cables are more expensive than they need to be, but remember that any company with lower total operational expenses can sell their products for less.
 
Same thing is happening to me. I woke up this morning to a dead iPhone and dead Apple Watch Ultra 2. Had a combo charger for watch/AirPods Pro/phone - and it's been acting up for the last few weeks.

The Watch doesn't seem to be charging now even on an official Apple charger. Might be visiting the Apple Store today.
 
Still using the original Apple travel chargers now for my iPhone 14 Max and Ultra 2 watch and my wife's iPhone 13 Mac and Apple Watch S9. We put the devices on the Apple mobile charger when we go to sleep and they are fully charged in the morning.

I am aware the charge rate is lower but that is beneficial for the batteries. If we need a fast watch charge, we also carry the charge cable that came with the watch and a 20 watt Apple wall wart when in then US. We take a dual port Apple wall wart traveling internationally so we can interchange the plugs depending on where we are in the world. The two ports can run our two iPhone/watch chargers just fine and we pop them into the suit case in the morning so they do not sprout feet during the day

Famous quote from JP Morgan a long time ago went like this: "If you have to ask what it costs to operate (charge or any other necessary activity), then you can't afford the product."
 
I've been using this for five years on a couple different watches.

Thanks, i will look for this elsewhere,
without amazon as a vendor.
 
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Seems like other manifacturer can make it for cheaper and still get mini certified, so even paying the Apple tax they are cheaper than the original one .

that means Apple is purposely making it expensive to begin with.

you make it sound like that microcontroller is some advanced tech…..

People would do anything to defend Apple, if any other manufacturer sold a 10 cm could for that much would get mocked in here before you could say the company name.

It's not just about the microcontroller. It's also the...
  1. Sound engineering.
  2. Quality parts.
  3. Service, support and guarantee.
  4. Supply chain.
  5. Actually paying staff.
  6. Retail presence.
The low brand manufacturers cut as much of that off as possible to undercut everyone else. And that's why the other manufacturers would be mocked in here.

I spent a number of years working it the defence sector as an electronics engineer. You'll see how rapidly costs build up on even simple things if you actually want to produce a product that isn't a pile of dog eggs.

Also I'm not sure what the hell everyone is doing with their cables and adapters. I haven't EVER had to buy another one. I chewed up a couple of USB/lightning cables doing stupid stuff and they swapped them out free of charge at a retail Apple store.
 
I’ve been using that for five years. No problems my charging speeds up just the Way I like the. By no means are they slow.
 

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