So, your solution is to say that even if I want Apple to share information between Apple's apps for personalized ads, they shouldn't be allowed to. But if I want third parties to share information between apps for personalized ads, they can. That doesn't make the least bit of sense to me.
Is it unfair that banks are able to borrow at the prime rate and not me? That’s the argument you are making.
That’s a regulatory nightmare and open to interpretation.
Which industries? Yes in some financial institutions there are Chinese walls but it is to safeguard abuses of a customers assets. This is nothing of the sort.
Define "fair"... Mathematically it makes sense, but it does reinforce inequality as those who already have significant capital have easier access to even more capital, which is kind of the type of positive feedback loops regulators tend to have to deal with.
That's the same as what I said. Still just as ridiculous, and yet more complicated when you add in product groupings.
Well doesn’t seem like the issue might be the fact that first party advertising tracking can do it but not third parties. So the fact Apple can track and advertise without requiring permission or disclosure under the ATT, or that Meta or Google doesn’t need to do it for their own advertising networks as long as third party services/brokers aren’t involved might be the biggest sticking point.
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Well, except Apple does already require permission through an opt in setting.Well doesn’t seem like the issue might be the fact that first party advertising tracking can do it but not third parties. So the fact Apple can track and advertise without requiring permission or disclosure under the ATT, or that Meta or Google doesn’t need to do it for their own advertising networks as long as third party services/brokers aren’t involved might be the biggest sticking point.
So Apple is probably (and hopefully) fine with or required to restrict it for first party tracking as well.
”based on Apple’s definition, it does not constitute “tracking” if, for instance, Apple itself gathers and combines tons of user data across its various services and apps (e.g., App Store, Safari browser, Apple TV+, Apple News, Apple Music etc., or even through third-party in-app purchases and subscriptions) with a view to providing highly-targeted ads within its App Store (Apple Search Ads) or Apple News and Apple Stocks (Apple News Ads).” -hausfeldWhat is App Tracking Transparency (ATT)? | Adjust
App Tracking Transparency (ATT) is Apple’s user privacy framework. It requires apps on iOS to request permission to access the IDFA to track the device.www.adjust.comApp Privacy Details - App Store - Apple Developer
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Proceedings against Apple
the authority is looking into the initial suspicion that these rules may favour Apple’s own offerings and/or impede other companies. Since the implementation of the ATTF in April 2021, providers offering apps in the iOS App Store have had to obtain additional consent from users before gaining access to certain data for advertising purposes. However, the strict requirements under the ATTF only apply to third-party app providers, not to Apple itself.In the Bundeskartellamt’s preliminary view, this may be prohibited under the special abuse control provisions for large digital companies (Section 19a(2) of the German Competition Act (GWB)) and under the general abuse control provisions of Article 102 TFEU.-Bundeskartellamt
Wouldn’t be bad if they had to do? I don’t want to be tracked across all Google apps or Meta apps and neither Apple apps etc
I had mine for the stock app but I don’t want to change my language to English and try and get the question again. But here’s some comparison with the ATTF prompt… and I don’t know but I don’t think first party tracking should deviate from the stricter standard. 🤷♂️
Well done you thin it’s acceptable if Meta or Google and the other apps had the same opt in setting instead of the same request?
I prefer regulators stay out of this instead of forcing companies to start tracking and the share information.
exactly. Define anything and we have a bunch of opinions based on our biases.
Of course. Inequality is part and parcel of the system. Every system. However in this instance regulators have not dealt with the feedback loop, nor will they.
Would you say it can be improved by apples ATTF rules including first party tracking? Considering Apple doesn’t need all the information not consent for some cross app advertisement?
No. That doesn’t make sense. If I give Apple my data, I expect Apple to have my data. Why do I need an extra popup for that?
If you gave your data to apple then sure, but otherwise they shouldn’t have access to such data for running adds or optimizing the sales data for the AppStore or other apps that uses apples advertising services.
Again, there is already an opt in setting for personalized ads from Apple. You posted a screenshot.
Does enabling "Prevent-cross-site tracking" make it unnecessary to deal with all those cookies options every time you open a website? I always make sure to reject as many cookies as possible, everything except those "strictly necessary" ones they don't let you disable. But it's a huge PITA, plus some websites don't even let you disable the marketing cookies, the only option is "Agree". So if I have cross-site tracking blocked, does it not matter if I just agree to all the cookies?
It’s not similar to how the ATTF thow. Now Apple has perfect timing to crack down on first party tracking.
