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Apple Warns Canada's Bill C-22 Could Force Encryption Backdoors
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Apple said “as drafted” in their very brief statement. That implies they’d like changes made. My guess is further clarification of the “systemic vulnerability” clause. Maybe an explicit declaration that nobody will be asked for a back door into encrypted services.
This way they don’t have to go to court to have it clarified at a later date should an agency request encrypted data from Apple.
This is substantially different from the UK when they asked for access to encrypted data. At least Bill C-22 addresses the concept of a back door. The UK straight-up demanded a back door.
As to Meta, I don’t believe anything they say.
Straight up lies.
There is ZERO proof Carney solicited MPs to cross over through bribes or other means. This is another conspiracy theory spouted by Conservatives.
There is, however, a lot of evidence of MPs being fed up with Poilievre, who does nothing but lie and try to bully Conservatives to keep in line. He’s like a wannabee Trump, but is too stupid to realize Canadians won’t fall for that.
I mean, the guy lost his own seat this past election (one he held for 20 years) and had to convince another MP in the safest district in Canada to give up their seat so he could run again. Pathetic.
ThomasJL
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Mark F***erberg does not care about user privacy. Meta is no champion of encryption, and here’s the proof:
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Imagine calling yourself the “Liberal” party but all you are for is tighter control and ruling over the population.
As a Canadian, I think this is one of the rare instances where I hope the Canadian government will cave in to the Trump administration.
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They gave up the charade of Liberal meaning left a long time ago. Spent the last decade breaking strikes without a hint of shame. Pumping billions into pipeline projects and military spending while making drastic cuts to public service employment to pay for it.
Just a coat of red paint over the same tired conservative politics.
Sanlitun
macrumors 6502a
The Liberals are only part of the problem. In BC the NDP socialists passed laws like Bill 26 to restrict the ability of citizens to access courts across the Province to contest government power. These governments hate citizens, families, and their rights and only see them as a threat to their control.
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(Off-topic) What's your favorite DBZ music? I think the Super Butōden series were pretty good.
China wasn’t a spy state, they were just early.
Welcome to 1984 v2.0, where your identity is a product to sell and your opinions are moderated. Try to take down the billionaires and you find yourself worse off.
Welcome to 1984 v2.0, where your identity is a product to sell and your opinions are moderated. Try to take down the billionaires and you find yourself worse off.
MacHeritage
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Apple, just like in the UK, is so in the right here. Great job Apple and keep it up. Privacy is important!
As a Canadian, the Bills (which eventually become law) coming out of Parliament for the last over a year, are the worst I've ever seen. They are killing freedom. If we ever get a new government that cares about the people, they would just need to rewind the clock back to before Mark Carney. Just all the laws his government has passed and start over. I've lost count on how many horrible ones there have been, otherwise, I would list them all. I know Bill C-8 is another dumpster fire.
This Mark Carney government knows exactly what it is doing in creating a 1984 world. The Conservatives are no better, sorry to say. It is just not a good situation for Canada overall.
As a Canadian, the Bills (which eventually become law) coming out of Parliament for the last over a year, are the worst I've ever seen. They are killing freedom. If we ever get a new government that cares about the people, they would just need to rewind the clock back to before Mark Carney. Just all the laws his government has passed and start over. I've lost count on how many horrible ones there have been, otherwise, I would list them all. I know Bill C-8 is another dumpster fire.
This Mark Carney government knows exactly what it is doing in creating a 1984 world. The Conservatives are no better, sorry to say. It is just not a good situation for Canada overall.
It’s no secret that mark carney is a high ranking WEF member. Speaks volumes on why he’s so buddy/buddy with the EU and trying to align Canada with their globalist fantasy
To all the people who think this is a good idea and is need to “protect the children”, please point me to a study showing that “child porn,” “sex traffickers,” etc has been eliminated (or at least greatly reduced) in the UK now that personal privacy is illegal in the country.
I suspect a big factor is how easily people can come up with communication workarounds. How easy is it for criminals such as you listed to workaround regulations like these? You might catch some casual (e.g.: ignorant, lazy) users, but the serious offenders may be more motivated to beat the system.
At least in the U.S. some illegal drug users turned to 'burner phones' to do business.
For all the griping about how Apple AirTags can potentially be used for tracking people (such as stalking), there are other products (found one online easily) on the market made to covertly track one's property that can do the same, and probably more secretly.
Some Googling shows it's possible (but often with impractical logistical hurdles) to send e-mail without going through a 3rd party e-mail server, a process called Direct Send. And it's my understanding one can set up a NAS (network-attached storage) to play the role of private e-mail server.
Back in the days of Napster, while a central system handled a lot of information, the actual transfer of a file (often a pirated song) took place user-to-user without going through Napster's own server network. So, 'direct transfer' was a thing.
And then there's the ease with which one can set up functionally anonymous g-mail accounts, etc., online. Buy cheap laptop, register under a fake name (if you register it), get Internet service under a fake name, etc.
My point is, we may be headed into the era of the 'Privacy Wars.' A number of nations have taken an interest in intrusive regulation, such as age verification (hello, Australia!), and some people have an interest in reigning in the VPNs used to circumvent geographic track downs.
Right now such workarounds may be mainly of interest to serious criminals, but will that be the case in 10 years?
Are we ready for more 'peer-to-peer' communication products without going through 3rd party servers?
Bull. It’s only far-right Conservatives who are angry, and that speaks volumes. Like Bill C-9, the anti-hate bill. They claim it stifles religious freedom when it really cracks down on people spreading bigotry/hatred and hiding behind their religion to justify it.
So Christians can’t spew anti-LGBTQ+ bigotry in public/at events or harass members of that community. You’re still free to believe in whatever bigotry you want and discuss it amongst yourselves at your own private religious gatherings.
Likewise, members of the LGBTQ+ community aren’t allowed to show up at Christian events or churches and harass members attending by spreading hate speech directed towards Christians.
Funny how it goes both ways and protects people on either side.
As to Carney, I wonder what woman seeking abortions or transgender youth trying to get health care think of him? You know, since Conservatives have tried numerous times to pass anti-abortion bills and are actively attacking transgender rights.
Funny how they’re trying so hard to follow Trump and even adopting his tactics.
Sanlitun
macrumors 6502a
This is unfortunately true. I don't think Poilievre is electable and as in the case with the UK the Conservatives are really no different than the Liberals. Not conservatively radical in any way.
As opposed to you, showing up on this forum which is in effect public, spewing your animosity toward 'Christians?'
I hadn't heard of this bill; from your own post, you referenced expressing (well, you said 'spew') their beliefs not just at events but 'in public,' which is a key difference, but then said LGBTQ+ folks aren't allowed to show up at Christian events or churches and harass members with hate speech directed at them...but you didn't say anything about 'in public' on that one.
I did a quick Google search to try to find a quick non-partisan (i.e.: a source not throwing out terms like 'spew,' 'bigotry' and 'hiding behind their religion') summary on C-9 (I'm not up on Canadian media, so I don't recognize the media outlet names). The impression I got is that some of what the bill is trying to do sounds pretty non-controversial, but there are some vague 'subject to future interpretation' elements that could be abused going forward.
In the U.S., we've faced similar 'free speech vs. micro-aggressions' type debates, but from what I understand Canada doesn't skew to the free speech side of things as strongly as the U.S. does? We've learned hostility and exclusion are not confined to religious people, Christian or otherwise.
It's not clear to me what Bill C-9 and Bill C-22 have to do with each other, other than both seen as at risk to impose intrusion into private communications. It's quite a reach, but the idea of the government have rightful authority to regulate communication by individuals and groups could be seen as a common thread.
MacHeritage
macrumors 6502a
I know Liberal minded Canadians who feel the same with Bill C-22 as well. Conservative minded Canadians are not the only ones who like privacy and understand technology. This forum should prove that.
Also, why you are bringing up Bill C-9? But since you have:
The record shows the Conservative Party has not tried to pass anti-abortion bills (all their leaders say the same thing since Stephen Harper), nor have they tried to "attack transgender rights" as you may think of it. Private member bills don't count in this. That is just one of the failures of the Conservative Party, selling themselves out for votes but that is another discussion for another day. If you follow politics in Canada, you should know this.
As a person who is in politics, I know what the Liberal Party plan actually is and it isn't what you are saying. They have far more evil plans which were put together back in 2018. It is all about targeting Christians, banning the Bible etc. It is not publicly available and was leaked by two Parliamentarians which told select pastors about it. It is just beginning to unfold.
MacHeritage
macrumors 6502a
So true. I found out that they were planning on rewrapping and passing, if they had won, some of the same laws that the Liberals were doing. Plus, the Conservatives always go Police State on us, every time.
Canada: Our Bought and Sold Out Land (2 hrs long) is a documentary on YouTube and shows how things run up here. I encourage all Canadians, no matter which side of the fence they may be on, to watch it. It was made back when Stephen Harper was PM but same tactics apply today.
Seems these last several years liberals in all Western countries have been adopting things that were once considered conservative. This same push for back doors and other stuff like online ID requirements is being pushed in liberal US states, the UK, and parts of Europe. Add to that book burning, racism, push for school uniforms, support for human rights violating countries, ignoring theft from vulnerable and disabled peoples, anti transparency laws, etc from liberals politicians and supporters, many of us are finding ourselves without a party we can relate to.
Its like, do you like the conservatives or the other conservatives?
CapitalIdea
macrumors 6502a
They meant relative to the prior UK case. Also, the Apple Maps joke hasn’t been relevant or accurate for several years.