
Apple iPhone risk from powerful motorbike vibrations
Camera performance can "degrade" if attached to high-volume, high-power motorbikes, Apple says.

Look, man. Don't be rude. Just be considerate.My house was built in 1960, and I inherited it. "Foot traffic" is me and my wife. It's a full acre lot so if you're on my porch, you were an invited guest and if we have guests over, the bike gets parked in the driveway.
You mean the mentality of posting twice about the same thing? Dude, stop gnawing on THAT bone or it's gonna make your teeth hurt. Hope I made your weekend.
As long as you never take it out I think it's fine. 👍Mines in the shed currently. Do you think I should check with him if it’s parked appropriately?
it is directly behind the roller door so you can’t get a car in. Hope that’s ok.
Never had any problems with any phone from my 3G to 11 Pro on my Harleys over the years...many 12-15 hour long rides with zero issues with phones or Harleys. I do use a battery case for longer rides.Just know that if you attached your phone to a jackhammer or a Harley, you may have some problems. If you have ridden long distance on a motorcycle, without proper padding, your hands will be tired out from the vibrations of the handlebars. Same thing with the iPhone camera.
That id definitely odd... I used mine for years in the shower, ocean, pool etc. without a single problem.Apple Watch gets used by surfers in their adverts.
Mine died from water damage after nine months - and a few showers.
I'm on the fence on this one.
One the one hand, I think Apple shouldn't be forced to let developers include links to outside payment/account setup options. Seems like Netflix has been just fine bypassing the App Store entirely. Developers have options, even if they might require customers to go through some hoops to use them.
On the other hand, I think it's probably a good/smart business decision for Apple to allow linking. If Apps/developers are already able to offer Apps for free (again, like Netflix) where users can sign up and pay completely outside the Apple ecosystem, I don't think a link built into the app changes a whole lot.
IMO.
HAHA!Plus I was afraid that the iPhone 10s Max could provide enough uplift to make me airborne.
Please, humor us, let us see some pics!No pickup picture handy, but I assure you it's an excessively large, overpowered, large grilled, gas guzzling beast.
You've been a member long enough to know that such a response is a given here.A one minute search of Google quickly shows that cell phone cameras be damaged by motorcycle vibrations. For example, quoting MotoGPS, "Part of the enjoyment of riding a motorcycle is the feeling of the engine vibrating through the handlebars and the whole chassis. However, between a certain frequency band, these vibrations may damage the sensitive optical image stabilisation components of your smartphone rendering the camera inoperative." So Apple publishes an advisory of an already known fact and people get salty.
Sounds like the issue is with high-frequency vibrations such as liter-bike inline 4s.Sounds like a Harley problem to me lol
HAHA!
I've owned BMW's (R's and K's), Triumph's (FI triples) and a Ducati. Gave them up once the kids started coming. Next bike is either a KTM Adventurer or a Triumph Scrambler. Two unique bikes but similar riding posture.My brother had three Harley's. When he finally grew up, he bought a BMW (motorcycle).
Now that's what I'm talking about. I owned a Multistrada but spent a lot of time riding Monsters back in the early 00's.My Ducati Streetfighter V4 destroyed my camera within 50 miles.
I now have a quad lock with vibration dampener with no issues.
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Q: "How much gas does it use?"Way to bait. Suck it, I have one of each.
Obligatory bike picture.
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No pickup picture handy, but I assure you it's an excessively large, overpowered, large grilled, gas guzzling beast.
Q: "How much gas does it use?"
A: "EVERY DROP I PUT IN IT!"
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OMG Came to say the same! LOLLLLLLLLLLLWell this is awkward. If you're watching the Apple event right now with the guy on the bike showcasing the iPhone 13 in the promo .... 😂
OMG Came to say the same! LOLLLLLLLLLLL
I know. Was going to say the same thing.Well this is awkward. If you're watching the Apple event right now with the guy on the bike showcasing the iPhone 13 in the promo .... 😂
I know. Was going to say the same thing.Hilarious Apple.
They are basically inviting the lawyers with open arms.
Very unwise. Have to wonder the people in Apple's PR team. They really have been doing poor jobs lately.
The point was the fact that Apple had this support document, and then made a video ad for the iPhone 13 showing it being put on the handle bar of a motorcycle.All they have to say is that perching the iPhone on a motorcycle is 'abuse', and they are covered.Someone needs to put a seismograph on someones handlebars and see how much force is generated to see that not many devices could survive such a situation. The IEEE article that I mentioned that was on 'chip failures' went through such issues as lead failures, chips delaminating form the base, chips actually cracking. The article was fascinating, and the damage it showed was minuscule in size, but non the less devastating in effect. The thought that vibrations could cause the incredibly small wires to actually vibrate and break was fascinating. That chips would/could actually fracture is amazing. That a chip could break loose from the floor of its tomb was almost unbelievable. THAT is the truth of making chips hardened. Apple can't be sued for the result of physics. Those failures seem amazing, and they are, but unless people want to pay the price for hardened chips in their phones so they can use it as a 'one size fits all' toy, they should realize that the iPhone isn't meant to be used in that way, and they need to use devices that are, or buy the mounts that will take the liability off of Apple when the iPhone fails. Garmin has a 'motorcycle GPS unit'. Maybe that is a better choice?
Stomping your feet, holding your breath, suing, isn't going to change physics.
The point was the fact that Apple had this support document, and then made a video ad for the iPhone 13 showing it being put on the handle bar of a motorcycle.![]()
IPhones are NOT specifically made to be attached to motorbikes, it’s a cell phone, made to be carried in purses and pockets and operated by hand. (Note that GoPro action cams, that ARE made to be jostled around, even on their latest model with Hypersmooth image stabilisation still use an electronic system, avoiding moving parts for ruggedness (and price) but not working nearly as well, particularly for stills. And they still have problems with misalignment creeping in and internal connections breaking, even when designed explicitly for ruggedness.)
Apple didn’t introduce OIS in iPhones until the 6s and sensor stabilisation only late last year. These are little marvels of optomechanical engineering, and instrumental not only to the quality of photos directly, but facilitating various computational modes that utilize image stacking. For 99.999% of users who don’t insist on strapping their phones to their food processors, this is great. You can increase camera ruggedness by removing mechanical image stabilisation and focussing, but you end up with a far less capable system (and still not completely fail safe).
Cameras on iPhones are precision aligned optomechanical systems that are not fixed but using various mobile parts that need to maintain very fine tolerances. They are subject to misalignment and eventual malfunction. Mistreat it and you will get problems. They are remarkably rugged for what they are, and stand up fine to typical use, but strapping them to vibrating, shaking, bouncing devices is bound to create problems.
If only breaking your cell phone camera was the only problem a Harley rider had…Sounds like a Harley problem to me lol
Well, the ad did show some jumps and dodging actions.I saw a MOPED. A motorized bike. Abusive, sure, but not a Harley whizzing along at 60 MPH, bouncing off of every pothole, and vibrating enough to cause nerve damage. There are ways to mitigate the potential damage, and there are ways to totally avoid the vibration issue entirely: Either get a proper mount, or DON'T ABUSE YOUR iPhone...
Been there. Luckily they didn't ask how it happened and they replaced the camera under warranty.Totally had this happen to me. Had my iPhone 10x on a ram handlebar mount. Eventually the camera could not focus and would make a clicking sound all photos came out blurry.
I got the vibration dampener as soon as they offered it. My XR had the issue after a 6 hour trip.I use this vibration damper for my iPhone 11. Works well but I suspect this is predominantly an iPhone 12 problem
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