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If an Apple Watch 2 is sold in 2016 it will be toward the end of the year, likely October. Prior to that we will have bands with more sensors.
 
45 million shipped in 2016?

How? Unless Apple has Blood Glucose level detection in Apple Watch 2, I don't know how that number is remotely attainable?

More people will buy one. It's fair to say most people now don't have one.

Apple have already modified their watch website. Presumably after months of sales, in store questions and actual watch usage they're getting a clearer idea of what people are using, and are tuning marketing to that.

If the Gen 2 Watch has more casing materials, more features, clearer marketing, etc it's reasonable to expect it will outsell the original Watch.
 
Same reason they left out a camera on the first iPad.
There's no point in releasing a polished turd. If the Watch was a flop, wifi or a faster chip or a few more hours of battery life wouldn't have saved it. But now they know it's a success they can polish it for Gen 2.
Then in order to save money no one should've purchased the first one

WIFI will drain that battery like hell. Apple Watch like all other products from la pomme ...Gen 1 is like a pre-release of the real thing, where the must-haves and latest and greatest geeks finance the real thing which always shows up in 2.0 or in some cases V3. Not for me ....yet;
So I should return it.....
 
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For whatever reason, I just don't know if I can see a second gen apple watch next year. The Watch is by no means a "flop", but I don't think it has enough traction yet to support a second version. It goes without saying that I could be completely wrong, but everything about the Watch release was pretty strange.

I think it'd be much more likely to have a second gen Watch announced next year, and then released Spring 2017.
Here’s the same—from everything I hear and read the watch sells well. But the first Apple Watch I saw in the wild was the one that I bought last week.
 
Perhaps they see it similarly to the iPhone beginnings.. it was the 2nd version - the 3G - released a year after the first version, that saw it really take off, with a huge rise in sales compared to the first version.. thanks to including 3G, GPS, and the App Store. Functions that now seem essential.. or even integral.

Of course there's going to be a watch2 next year, and very probably a watch3 the year after. I can understand those who have spent many thousands of dollars on a watch hoping that no new watches are released next year, but this is Apple.. we know that's what they do. And your watch will still work just the same way as it does now, despite there being a newer thinner better one on sale.
 
For whatever reason, I just don't know if I can see a second gen apple watch next year. The Watch is by no means a "flop", but I don't think it has enough traction yet to support a second version. It goes without saying that I could be completely wrong, but everything about the Watch release was pretty strange.

Indeed, completely wrong.
 
Should I return the one I have now?

Either it was going to have Wi-Fi or it wasn't. They should've put it on there the first time. How do they expect people to keep buying if they leave out obvious stuff? It's like they're releasing prototypes and selling them as the real thing


It actually does have wifi right now- it's just limited in some ways and connects only to networks your phone remembers- it can't connect directly yet. Without a keyboard to enter a passcode it could be interesting..
 
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Seriously Apple, please no FaceTime camera. Or thinner. Here's an actual example of a product that you keep the same size, and increase the battery size.

Here's what you do:

Make the home screen icons bigger, give it an e-sim, give it an all day ambient mode, more shots of the jellyfish (try 40 instead of 4) and please, I beg you, for the love of God fix that damn delay that happens every single time I push "Reply". That's it, I'll buy one.

You can even save GPS/two day battery/screen lamination for version three and milk me a third time.

Send your resume in to Cook and tell him you know better and that you should replace Phil Schiller. Stat. There are manufacturing details and other information about materials and the engineering of the watch (and other products) you know that no one else working at Apple seems to comprehend.
 
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I'll happily buy ever watch release like I have iPads and iPhones just because i'm a geek who loves playing with Apple's new technology but I think the Watch cycle suits a 2 year refresh rather than yearly really - more in line perhaps with the Mac rather than the iPhone - I can see the iPad's going to same sort of route now too with the iPad Air 2 not getting an annual refresh. There is no immediate need to stick to a 12 monthly life cycle like the iPhone.
 
Thinner?
Who needs that?
No, what they need to do is make it bigger. 47-55mm would suit me perfectly.
The two sizes available now is for women and pygmees..
 
No matter when the new watch comes out, hopefully they have some form of trade-in program to off-set the cost of an upgrade like the iPhones and iPads. Would make upgrading every year or every two years much easier

Its called "sell your old one on eBay"...
 
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Glad I didn't buy the Edition Watch. Those folks must be a bit pissed off about this rumor. Then again, they'll probably be the first to upgrade.
 
Thinner?
Who needs that?
No, what they need to do is make it bigger. 47-55mm would suit me perfectly.
The two sizes available now is for women and pygmees..

Oh god, we now need bigger Watch screens too... I'm waiting for Samsung to do a 65mm watch and increase it a mm each year
 
I think it'd be much more likely to have a second gen Watch announced next year, and then released Spring 2017.
I'd say that's doubtful. Apple announce brand new products a few months ahead of them being available, sure. But they don't do that with existing products as it would just kill the market for those. Many people would hold off buying an Apple Watch if they knew version two was just a few months away.
 
Hopefully the battery is better. But who am i kidding, it's apple...

But i'll most likely buy one next year.
I think they're happy with having their devices last a day. Which is a shame because I'd like to use my iPhone at a reasonable brightness and still have some charge left at the end of the day.

Apple Watch battery is surprisingly fine. I took mine back, but the battery life was one of the nicest surprises. Even after heavy use with full brightness I would end the day with it at 25-30% battery. And that included taking calls on it, using the exercise measuring function multiple times etc.
 
Based on history the second generation will look completely different from the first one. The iPhone and iPad are the proof for this claim. I'm hoping for the round face for the second one. But I won't be buying an Apple Watch until they have GPS on it. I can't run outside carrying my Plus phone.
 
Seriously Apple, please no FaceTime camera. Or thinner. Here's an actual example of a product that you keep the same size, and increase the battery size.

Same size watch but bigger battery? Do people read the comments they vote up around here? Goes to show it's so much easier to throw out an arbitrary comment, than to design an actual product.

Based on history the second generation will look completely different from the first one. The iPhone and iPad are the proof for this claim. I'm hoping for the round face for the second one. But I won't be buying an Apple Watch until they have GPS on it. I can't run outside carrying my Plus phone.

This is one Apple product lineup I don't expect the external case to change too drastically for second gen. Expect faster processor, longer battery life etc. And probably GPS: can GPS work without a cell data connection? Round watches can make for attractive jewellery, but they are fundenetally not good for displaying content. And content is what a smartwatch is about.

What I would like apple to improve
- better life of up to 3 days
- screen always on

You can't have it both ways.
 
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Should I return the one I have now?

Either it was going to have Wi-Fi or it wasn't. They should've put it on there the first time. How do they expect people to keep buying if they leave out obvious stuff? It's like they're releasing prototypes and selling them as the real thing

So you expect Apple to release a product with all the obvious things so that you don't ever have to buy one again? They release the updated version when it's ready. If they added some other capability like a camera and the battery lasted 5 hours because of it, you'd be screaming that Apple released a device you can barely use.
 
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