Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
No cellular connection = no sale

Lame iPhone update + Lame Watch update = Lame September keynote
I do not believe the Watch will be in the September keynote.
Maybe the speed bump for the current model and some price adjustment for the one currently on sale.
 
If Apple add GPS, LTE, Camera, etc where's the USP for Apple Watch 3 or 4?

I believe they will use same case (R+D is expensive) and increase battery life and something else, maybe GPS. That's it.
 
I am surprised how many people lack technical knowledge.
Unless Apple uses the bands for expensi on, there won' t be any room for a camera in the next years to come.
Apple will add gps, higher speed and a few more healtsensors and better waterproofing in this years update. We won' t see cellular connectivity added in at least a year and 3 months time, and in about 2 years and 3 months we' ll perhaps see an Apple Watch with a camera.
It just can' t be done right now. You can have 200 billion on the bank, but in this form factor, it just isn' t possible right now.
Only if they use special bands as an extension, and according to one article I read recently, this won' t happen...
 
I am surprised how many people lack technical knowledge.
Unless Apple uses the bands for expensi on, there won' t be any room for a camera in the next years to come.
Apple will add gps, higher speed and a few more healtsensors and better waterproofing in this years update. We won' t see cellular connectivity added in at least a year and 3 months time, and in about 2 years and 3 months we' ll perhaps see an Apple Watch with a camera.
It just can' t be done right now. You can have 200 billion on the bank, but in this form factor, it just isn' t possible right now.
Only if they use special bands as an extension, and according to one article I read recently, this won' t happen...
You mean this should remain exclusive only for the competition ?
There is a lot of sub-$100 stuff out there with more functionality than the W (not considering build quality of course...) from companies smaller than 200 bil
 
Last edited:
These incremental updates seem have me less and less excited about an Apple product launch.

I love my Apple Watch, but the killer feature for me would be the addition of blood glucose monitoring through the band/main unit (I'm diabetic).

But I'll still probably upgrade...
 
That image is many years old. The camera assembly is small today.
He meant: Take your iPhone and position the camera closer to the watch so you can see why its bad idea!
Go and google the iPhone camera modules and see how HUGE they are. And now, think again - do you still want this ridiculous feature that 99% won't even use? Please, where is the common sense here?
Camera would take huge amount of space, wouldn't be used much, if they put another (smaller) module it will be very low quality (whats the point then?). We have cameras in the phones, tablets, computers etc. We don't need it on a fricking watch!
 
He meant: Take your iPhone and position the camera closer to the watch so you can see why its bad idea!
Go and google the iPhone camera modules and see how HUGE they are. And now, think again - do you still want this ridiculous feature that 99% won't even use? Please, where is the common sense here?
Camera would take huge amount of space, wouldn't be used much, if they put another (smaller) module it will be very low quality (whats the point then?). We have cameras in the phones, tablets, computers etc. We don't need it on a fricking watch!
The only HUGE thing is your reply in terms of its exaggeration. Last time I checked, 5MP and 8MP were quite great quality and the camera models not HUGE. "this ridiculous feature that 99% won't even use" "No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no" -- said lots of people about lots things we now take for granted.
 
The only HUGE thing is your reply in terms of its exaggeration. Last time I checked, 5MP and 8MP were quite great quality and the camera models not HUGE.
I find that actual specifications make for a better argument than just a statement proclaiming they are "not HUGE" (no matter how much the allcaps helps to clarify the meaning of the word huge).

The actual size of the camera module in the iPhone 6S is 9.13 mm x 1.86 mm x 0.62 mm - - certainly "not HUGE", but significant given the amount of free space in an Apple Watch.
 
Last edited:
Actually .. for people like me who already own an AppleWatch, this is good news ! Not having to yet again buy an other product year after year is good for the wallet. We dont have to get every gen cycle of a product, get one and ride it out till something you really need as a feature comes out.
  • watchOS 3.0 is going to good enhancement for the current gen watch.
  • AppleWatch 2 is looking like a minor bump for me who dont really care about exact GPS tracking during my runs
Not having waited for a gen 2 watch, and been able to use it everyday since day one and enjoying it has been a good decision
 
  • Like
Reactions: alfonsog
Is this possible......and please excuse my ignorance on this.....would it be possible to include a FM transmitter via bluetooth to the AW? I personally listen to radio sports events while attending....would be nice if I could just throw in my wireless headphones and listen to the college game I am sitting at via FM radio. I have very limited data on my plan and do not want to use it up streaming from my iphone.
 
I find that actual specifications make for a better argument than just a statement proclaiming they are "not HUGE" (no matter how much the allcaps helps to clarify the meaning of the word huge).

The actual size of the camera module in the iPhone 6S is 9.13 mm x 1.86 mm x 0.62 mm - - certainly "not HUGE", but significant given the amount of free space in an Apple Watch.
Yes, but we can work with those specs and get even better. A camera will happen, it's now more about when, Apple Watch 3 or 4.
 
Gee...
Camera modules, FM transmitters, GPS etc. etc. all exist in very tiny formats.
This stuff is widely available in the Far East. Cupertino wants everything to be super quality, extremely cheap to put that in a thinner device with less battery.
Fine, keep waiting.
 
He meant: Take your iPhone and position the camera closer to the watch so you can see why its bad idea!
Go and google the iPhone camera modules and see how HUGE they are. And now, think again - do you still want this ridiculous feature that 99% won't even use? Please, where is the common sense here?
Camera would take huge amount of space, wouldn't be used much, if they put another (smaller) module it will be very low quality (whats the point then?). We have cameras in the phones, tablets, computers etc. We don't need it on a fricking watch!

Agreed. One of the biggest reasons I don't have an AW is because of the price and also the fact that it fails with feature overload. It's not supposed to distract people's eyes to the wrist for a long period of time. And putting games on it is really a stupid move on Apple's part. Cramming everything in the Apple Watch is a design mistake and should've had fewer features to keep it light and focused.

The camera modules would not work properly on the watch due to the battery drain. In fact, it would be a huge security issue for those who work in very sensitive job positions in the military, private sectors, government, etc. Leave the camera on the phone but don't put it on the watch. In fact, I heard recently from an article that a General from the Marines has recommended that the military put their smartphones away when in the battlefield since they distract and also give away position. I agree with him. Here's the article:

http://www.cnet.com/news/top-us-marine-says-smartphone-society-can-make-soldiers-soft/

I bring this up because some people may defend the Watch ( or iPhone ) as advanced and putting a camera on it would be handy. I certainly do not think so. Having a camera would drain the battery a lot more and they would have to increase the size of the Watch to achieve it. Besides, talking to a watch with the " Dick Tracy " tech would make one look like a jacka$$ in public. Even raise the suspicion of traffic patrol who'll pull them over and ask " Were you making calls on that watch while driving? I saw you mouthing off to it. You should be putting two hands on the wheel according to safety regulations ". You get the gist of it.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Freida
Meh, "smart" watches were so 2014. 2 years later and this is the best improvements they can come up with, barely matching features from what the competition had in 2014? Apple is lacking in every possible way across all their product lines. There is no enough gold that Apple can put on a watch that will make me want to buy an also-ran product that people buy only because of the logo on it.

Also can Apple invest in a battery company that can provide some much needed improvements in battery life, or at least stop buying batteries in bulk from the same manufacturer that Radio Shack and Walmart gets theirs from?
 
The only HUGE thing is your reply in terms of its exaggeration. Last time I checked, 5MP and 8MP were quite great quality and the camera models not HUGE. "this ridiculous feature that 99% won't even use" "No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no" -- said lots of people about lots things we now take for granted.

Apple should never put a camera on the watch. Ever. If they do that, it will destroy the purpose and design of the Watch and the iPhone, not only that but drain the battery very quickly. The watch is designed to notify, NOT distract or make video calls ( or take photos one which would be very unethical or illegal in sensitive job sectors ). You want to gab via video? Do that on the iPhone or Droid. You want to snap photos? Do that on the iPhone or dedicated camera.

Pebble had the right idea with out the feature creep and app overload. Plus, one of their new watches lasts at least a week or two which is far BETTER than a 12-14 hour battery length on Apple Watch.
 
  • Like
Reactions: honglong1976
Apple should never put a camera on the watch. Ever. If they do that, it will destroy the purpose and design of the Watch and the iPhone, not only that but drain the battery very quickly. The watch is designed to notify, NOT distract or make video calls ( or take photos one which would be very unethical or illegal in sensitive job sectors ). You want to gab via video? Do that on the iPhone or Droid. You want to snap photos? Do that on the iPhone or dedicated camera.

Pebble had the right idea with out the feature creep and app overload. Plus, one of their new watches lasts at least a week or two which is far BETTER than a 12-14 hour battery length on Apple Watch.
"destroy the purpose and design" - exaggeration.
"drain the battery very quickly" - exaggeration and a problem that can be solved.
"unethical or illegal" - same issues with the phone but solved
 
These incremental updates seem have me less and less excited about an Apple product launch.

I love my Apple Watch, but the killer feature for me would be the addition of blood glucose monitoring through the band/main unit (I'm diabetic).

But I'll still probably upgrade...

I am a diabetic also, however, from what I have read, this is probably never going to come to this watch or any other watch just because of the cost. The No BLOOD glucose meters are still in their infancies. The technology is really expensive today. Maybe in 10 or 20 years. What bothers me about this, is instead of finding a cure, we spend billions of dollars to find ways to monitor the problem. Oh, I am sure they spend billions researching for a cure, but billions spent on ways to monitor it, put that into finding a cure....anyway, back to the watch.
 
I still don't see the point in smartwatches. No matter what features they have, you're always going to be able to do the same thing, and much better, on your smartphone.

Yes, and on a computer as well, but have you ever heard about "convenience"?
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.