Hate to agree, but it is probably true. Any growth that isn't better than the prior year and by a large amount will probably hurt the sale price or keep it flat. The earnings per share and profit is insane. They can raise the dividend, spend some of that cash in acquisitions that boost profit, etc. Apple just makes the best phone and laptop and their quality is the best. They won't drop much unless the economy tanks. $85 is doable but I think that will happen in the first half of the year if it does. Some of the rumors on the iPhone 7 look and features could easily push sales back up to 70-100mm by next Xmas quarter.
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Apple Watch and Apple TV See Record Quarterly Sales
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JeffyTheQuik
macrumors 68020
Watch.Harder to call the Apple Watch a failure than a success based on analyst prediction for sales and profit margin so far. And most people who will buy an Apple Watch will never know how many units were sold or care that it is in the Other category.
ghost187
macrumors 6502a
iPhone 7 will be great phone and I will buy one, but iPhone 6/6+ was an exception because it introduced 2 new screen sizes that people where anxiosly waiting for. People switched to Android solely because prior iPhone's had a smaller screen. Also, there is no more "necessary" features left to add, just "cool" ones that may be useful. Processors are fast enough, Camera is good enough, there is a screen size to make everyone happy, 6S+ gets great battery life, Touch ID is secure enough, etc... I just don't see a groundbreaking feature coming that hasn't even been rumored about for the iPhone 7. Dual rear camera's seems interesting at best, waterproof design will be a nice touch, but not much else except the usual specs upgrade.
MacAddict1978
macrumors 68000
I really want to know how many get returned after purchase.
The rumored design with the whole screen being glass and force touch for the home button is a nice design change if it happens. People will upgrade every two years and the 6s just didn't have the wow features to get the 6 users to upgrade early or enough of the old 5 users to jump. The 5s was the best. If the 7 and 6se come out as planned with A9 and A10 chips with all glass screen would really push people to upgrade next Xmas.
Just a guess, but sooner or later growth has to slow. The phone is unique because of contracts allows people to get the latest every 2 years or even less. 🙂
carrrrrlos
macrumors 65816
Those are some impressive numbers for a single quarter - But the chasm between profit and revenue is equally impressive.
MacAddict1978
macrumors 68000
That screen increase was a huge reason for buying. It gave android defectors a reason to come back.
You're hilarious. Developers are abandoning the watch and TV platforms? They are? There are already like 40,000 TV apps, and almost every app I use has a companion watch app. Can you imagine if iPhone developers had your attitude back when the App Store launched? They'd have missed out on billions! The tv and watch don't have to replicate the success of the iPhone, expecting anything to replicate it would be absurd. But as iPhone revenues start to recede, tv and watch revenues climb.
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doelcm82
macrumors 68040
Please do. This is my year to upgrade to the iPhone 7, and anyone holding off for whatever reason increases the chances that I can get my new phone on day 1.
There is truth to what he is saying though. There are now over 1 billion Apple devices out there and based on sales, the largest by far is iPhones. If there are 700 million iPhones for example, developers will focus on that platform versus 12 million Apple watches or xx million Apple TV's.
The rest of what he said is probably not true, but if he knows 2 developers who quit developing for the watch and TV, I guess he is telling the truth when he says developers. 🙂
I think they like the fact that competitors think it's a failure.. or at least guessing. The problem with pounding your chest and pronouncing yourself king of the hill is that you paint a bullseye on your back and everyone starts gunning to take you down.
That's what happened with the iPad. Had they kept their sales a secret, you probably wouldn't have had so many competitors jump into the market so quickly.
iLunar
macrumors 6502
I have no idea why this is even a talking point around the forums. The original iPhone dropped $100 a couple months after release. MacBooks and Pros are always dropped in price, and iPods were continuously discounted by 3rd parties.
For a first gen product, a new category, Apple Watch seems to be doing a decent job. Obviously with no concrete sales numbers to call it's tough to predict either way. I've seen so many Apple Watches this passed month, it's hard for me to take any Apple Watch failure posts seriously. For a first gen experimental product, the expectations are completely ridiculous.
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Of course they were going to proclaim iPhone sales; cell phones were an entrenched product category that Apple wanted to compete in. There is no product category for the Apple Watch. The scenarios and market are completely different.
ghost187
macrumors 6502a
I know exactly what you are talking about with the whole glass being the display with almost no bezel, but I doubt it happens with the iPhone 7. BUT, IF it does, than yes, 100M units next holiday quarter, and honestly I hope it does happen.🙄
Also, 2 year contracts are pretty much dead, so hopefully the subscription sales do even better.
AppleScruff1
macrumors G4
If they sold 1 more watch last quarter than in prior quarters it would be a record.
tourbus1
macrumors member
I don't get why he would want to know other than to hope it is a lot to rub it in your face? 🙂
My "guess" is a return rate similar to the first gen iPhone or first gen any product. Maybe 2-5%. Most people who don't want to keep it will sell on eBay or Craigslist which has no impact on Apples sales.
I think this has big time potential. I know I'm upgrading every year now. I'm surprised this doesn't weigh more heavily in analysts numbers. Why wouldn't you upgrade every year? Assuming you're into this kind of thing.
Yep. The 2 year contract is dead. My daughter works at an AT&T store and all they sell now is 12-18 month or 24-30 month contracts which allow the customer to update for free at 12 months or 24 months. There will be A LOT of iPhone 6 and 6plus users who will be upgrading in the Xmas quarter of this year.
Apple will need something to boost sales so I am hoping the all glass screen is the iPhone 7. 🙂
It doesn't look like too many people are returning them.
http://appleinsider.com/articles/15...action-outpaces-original-iphone-ipad---report
But I thought the watch was a massive failure that no one wanted.
Why hasn't Apple just liquidated and discontinued it by now? Judging from those billions and billions in revenue it generated, it's still only a fraction of iPhone sales so it's a massive flop.
Why hasn't Apple just liquidated and discontinued it by now? Judging from those billions and billions in revenue it generated, it's still only a fraction of iPhone sales so it's a massive flop.
Agree. It's so precious and amusing people get so frothed up about what Apple does or doesn't decide to do. And... astonishing these same people allow Apple to have so much power over their lives, causing them to get so worked up.
Mr. Donahue
macrumors 6502a
You will never see Old school Nintendo games on iOS. The best you will get are Nintendo licensed games developed by DeNa. that might be so so.. but if you wanna game then buy a Wii U. or Nintendo's next portable/home console, codename: "NX"