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Selecttive huh, or maybe you fail to remember the comments so heres the thread, and well hear is some of the comments i must of selectively remembered

https://www.macrumors.com/2013/09/04/samsung-unveils-299-galaxy-gear-smart-watch-with-one-day-battery-life/


POST 15
"1 day battery life, are they freaking serious? This is not a smart phone; it is a watch, and I don't want to be plugging it in every 24 hrs!

Massive fail, as usual wait for the real McCoy from Apple. This is a prime example of why Samsung copy, their original ideas suck!"

POST 18
"Fail on so many levels... 300 and yet another device you have to charge EVERY day? No thanks!!"

POST 32
"One day battery life? No thanks.

I won't get something like this until we are talking 2~4 weeks battery life."

POST 37
"A watch thats got "up to one day of battery life"?! What a joke..."

POST 38
"Trust Samsung to rush out another half-baked product just because they think that's what Apple is doing whilst putting no thought or effort into design or functional. Laggy and basically no battery life?"

POST 43
"Too pricey, bulky, laggy and crap battery life... total concept fail."

POST 45
"Seriously, this is why we don't have a smart watch/wearables device from Apple yet. They would never release one that got a day (or less) battery life"

POST 59
"1 week battery life would be ideal at this point, but 1 day is just pathetic.

Would Samsung really sell such a product to their own friends and family, and feel good about it?"

POST 70
"I thought it looked pretty sweet, until I saw the 1 day of battery and price"

there were 32 pages, so i guess you selectively missed them although the last post is telling of what people thought and what they would say when Apple came in more expensive and with the same battery life

"Of course you know what the responses to those will be after the release. We've already heard them..


1. The Apple watch is a fashion statement. It's a luxury watch. People pay premiums for fashion. $350 is not expensive.... etc

2. What's the big deal? I charge my phone every night. Non-issue.

3. Apple's solution is elegant. Once you've used it - you can't imagine how you have lived without it.

...and so on.."


Again, i have no gripe i just think Apple have rushed this to satisfy shareholders, and it would be be bad form but i think they will release a better version later on in Q4, this is what i was trying to point out

The Watch has been almost 5 years in development. There is no such rush. Your comment is utterly baseless. The watch is as good as it can be with existing technology. They have to enter the market now while the other watches have no traction; waiting would be foolhardy. They're entering the market last with the most mature product of the current lot; just as they always do.

Also, you want me spent my time to classify each posts by argument posters made to demonstrate that comments about battery life were not the main complaints against those other watches (except maybe the initial Moto360 which had terrible reviews about battery life)? Cherry picking doesn't prove your point AT ALL.

That's like saying the whole 2008 presidential election is about Obama being a Kenyan if I can find I can find a few thousand people/articles to say so...

If I spend time, I can find a very large bunch that just found the watches and their interface BUTT UGLY. That was the main argument against those watches.

People whine about lots of things here, finding a whine on one particular subject isn't too hard.

One thing you forgot is that commented about those non Apple watches actually knew their performance, while the comments about the Apple watch having a crap battery life are in the several hundred (if not thousand!!) without no one having ANY real clue. The number of threads on this subject alone is higher than the number of posts you listed above (yes, that large).

If you think those countless comments are "fair". Then' I'd question you bias.

My own main comment about those watches are that their UI is bad and the watches ugly.
 
And your point? It will tell time, display notifications and read your pulse. Those are facts, as you stated. No ones stating it will bring world peace or anything "magical". It's an iPhone companion device, not a personal computer. I think that's pretty clear.

Have you been reading watch threads here? Numerous posters have stated they feel apple is holding back a key feature or that developers are bring some totally unanticipated uses.
 
The Watch has been almost 5 years in development. There is no such rush. Your comment is utterly baseless. The watch is as good as it can be with existing technology. They have to enter the market now while the other watches have no traction; waiting would be foolhardy. They're entering the market last with the most mature product of the current lot; just as they always do.

Also, you want me spent my time to classify each posts by argument posters made to demonstrate that comments about battery life were not the main complaints against those other watches (except maybe the initial Moto360 which had terrible reviews about battery life)? Cherry picking doesn't prove your point AT ALL.

That's like saying the whole 2008 presidential election is about Obama being a Kenyan if I can find I can find a few thousand people/articles to say so...

If I spend time, I can find a very large bunch that just found the watches and their interface BUTT UGLY. That was the main argument against those watches.

People whine about lots of things here, finding a whine on one particular subject isn't too hard.

One thing you forgot is that commented about those non Apple watches actually knew their performance, while the comments about the Apple watch having a crap battery life are in the several hundred (if not thousand!!) without no one having ANY real clue. The number of threads on this subject alone is higher than the number of posts you listed above (yes, that large).

If you think those countless comments are "fair". Then' I'd question you bias.

My own main comment about those watches are that their UI is bad and the watches ugly.

You stated no one had commented about battery life I disproved that.

You state I have a bias yet I have half apple gear so try to discredit all you like.

The watch was in development five years yet they yank certain features at the last minute due to sensor issue I don't believe the PR pumped out

Its always good to question and not swallow the marketing bull

As for ugly interface that's subjective I like android no argument. I don't find iOS ugly or beautiful

My concern is that consumers will end up buying and wasting money on a beta product. Hopefully I'm wrong but I doubt it
 
it's an apple product.. people will buy it regardless if it's good or not. 80% of the people buy it without knowing what the specs are like battery life, etc. if it has an apple logo, it will be bought.
 
You stated no one had commented about battery life I disproved that.

You state I have a bias yet I have half apple gear so try to discredit all you like.

The watch was in development five years yet they yank certain features at the last minute due to sensor issue I don't believe the PR pumped out

Its always good to question and not swallow the marketing bull

As for ugly interface that's subjective I like android no argument. I don't find iOS ugly or beautiful

My concern is that consumers will end up buying and wasting money on a beta product. Hopefully I'm wrong but I doubt it

Seriously... "Concern"... Oh my!
There's a even a wiki page about concern type comments on the internet...

Ive said he slaved 4+ years on this and seemingly staking his rep on it; that what comes out of his interviews. Cook has also put a lot of energy behind this personally; considering this is his first big new product launch post Jobs It seems doubtful he'd want to launch a "Beta".

The fact that they had:
- Hiring the Burbury chief as head of Retail seemingly just for this new product
- So much engineering work into this, including creating a custom chip and many form factors and even alloys.
- The large scale world wide launch planned 6+ months in advance
- A new OS (takes years to develop)
- Tight integration with IOS
- Watchkit and close work with developers to make sure the watch gets loads of apps at launch
- Close work with several commercial partners

That should assuage your "concerns".

This is not a hobby product like Apple TV with a soft launch. This is a launch on the scale of the Ipad.

The rumor your pointing to state that the watch's sensors were pared down over the 4 year development cycle.

http://www.macnn.com/articles/15/02/17/features.may.return.in.future.versions.of.apple.watch/

Well, that's how engineering works. Your initial pie in the sky design must become a real product with a good reliability. Releasing unreliable sensors in the hope of making it work eventually.. That's releasing a beta. You could call the Watch, feature limited, (if doesn't do all you think it should, though most would disagree); but this is no Beta.

They also wanted to put Sapphire on their Iphone 6 and engineering/manufacturing issues prevented it. Is the Iphone 6 a beta product?

What we got here is what they announced last year, nothing less, and what could be produced presently.

Some things that WERE at a public beta level (late Beta):
IOS 8.0 and Android 5.0
Latest Samsung smart Watches
Many of the competition's smart watches, though not all.
A very very meh Android Wear UI
http://www.theverge.com/2015/2/19/8069219/sony-smartwatch-3-review-android-wear

Some things released as early Beta level
- Many Google online services
- Google glass
- First few Samsung smart watches


Considering I own $600 dollars of Apple stuff bought in my whole life and more than 20K of self built Unix, embedded OS stuff, I think if anyone swallows markeing it is not me... But, someone else.
 
I didn't realize the Fitbit is the same as the Apple Watch

Monitoring the heart rate is not heavy usage at all unless your monitoring it by looking at the screen of your watch all day...

I'd expect that a very low processor like the M8 in the Iphone 6 will take care to gather all the sensor data and only wake up the screen/main cpu under some defined circumstances to tell you if something your looking for happened. You can then review whatever data you feel like.

Your comparing a fitbit to this watch. Is that serious?

Reread your post. It's a FITBIT. They barely have to support a screen.


You are kind of all missing the point to be honest. Something I only have to charge once or twice a week is infinitely more useufl to me than something that does way more, but I need to carry a charger if I plan on being out all day
 
You are kind of all missing the point to be honest. Something I only have to charge once or twice a week is infinitely more useufl to me than something that does way more, but I need to carry a charger if I plan on being out all day

you have 18 hour days? If so, then this watch isn't for you. Enjoy your pebble!
 
Bloody hell !!

You think would this this stuff would be easy...

So, if u do all of those things listed, u'll get a best battery life....

Talk about being confused.... No one checks how many notifications they get in a day ....:mad:
 
it's an apple product.. people will buy it regardless if it's good or not. 80% of the people buy it without knowing what the specs are like battery life, etc. if it has an apple logo, it will be bought.

That's the case with any consumer electronics, and I'm sure it's higher than 80 percent.

Of course it's not going to fail, apple will make millions from the watch.
 
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