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The way they've designed the computer on a chip fascinates me. It will be interesting to see how much, if any of this will be upgradable.

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Battery life of 1 week MINIMUM needed before i touch any "smart watch",

its not a usable device if i NEED to carry a charger around for my watch when i go overnight for business


I have also corrected the Jony Ive quote i keep seeing --

"When we see something huge and powerful we aspire to make it small and unusable."— Jony Ive

he who has brought us surface mounted, sealed, landfill bound systems in a push to get people to buy new every 2-3 years rather than upgrade the HDD or add your own RAM to extend the life of a system.
 
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Battery life of 1 week MINIMUM needed before i touch any "smart watch",

its not a usable device if i NEED to carry a charger around for my watch when i go overnight for business

You'll be waiting 10 year, or until battery tech improves immensely with the current use cases of the Apple Watch, whatever comes first. If your usage is quite light, you could see something within 5-6 years even without new battery tech just because SOC efficiency is improving.

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Still undecided on this.... its one of the best smart watches to look at and the UI looked fantastic but 1 day battery life for me is the killer..... its a little but thick as well.

I'll probably ended up with the v2 which will last half a day but at least it'll be thin :)

Considering they didn't even distinguish in saying 1 day between the big one and the small one, I'd wager the bigger 42mm watch lasts close to 1.5 days of pretty intense use, 1 day for the smaller 38mm one.
 
Sorry to say but the Apple Watch will be a monumental flop.

I can't see it being a hit either with minimum battery life and limited health sensors...........However, it will create competition and hopefully someone will hit the golden mix.

I'm still hoping that the thing they showed has been improved. Just seams pointless... moto 360 looks gorgeous... too bulky at this point though... but seams like it is on the right track...
 
A blast from the past:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apples-new-thing-ipod.500/

iPoop... iCry. I was so hoping for something more.

Great just what the world needs, another freaking MP3 player. Go Steve! Where's the Newton?!

Sounds very revolutionary to me.

hey - heres an idea Apple - rather than enter the world of gimmicks and toys, why dont you spend a little more time sorting out your pathetically expensive and crap server line up? or are you really aiming to become a glorified consumer gimmicks firm?

I still can't believe this! All this hype for something so ridiculous! Who cares about an MP3 player? I want something new! I want them to think differently! Why oh why would they do this?! It's so wrong! It's so stupid!

All that hype for an MP3 player? Break-thru digital device? The Reality Distiortion Field™ is starting to warp Steve's mind if he thinqks for one second that this thing is gonna take off.

Not exactly "revolutionary". With the economy in its current state, You'll be able to pick up MP3 players for peanuts soon. The Archos Jukebox does the same thing and it's not blowing off the shelves either. $399 is just too much for an MP3 jukebox. Sorry Steve, this isn't it...

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/854974/

Although nice there is nothing "magical" or "revolutionary" about the device. I was expecting so much more from apple on this one.

This is a giant iPhone, there's no other way to put it. You can love it, you can hate it but in the end it is a giant iPhone. Not revolutionary at all.

Just an oversized Ipod Touch. This will not sell well no need for this device.
Will not be good for reading books neither not using the ink technology.

Its basically a big iPod touch.

I wanted to get excited over this, but all I can muster is a resounding "meh." Looks like it does everything an iPhone does...only less. Big screen and no-contract data is very cool though. So 140 something million iPhone and iPod touch owners already know how to use it...that's how many people have little use for this thing since they already have a device with the same functionality.

Consider me disappointed. What is the purpose of the device that the iPhone/iTouch can't do?

Every Mac device has a stature of something unique to it. This iPad felt like a iPod touch just made bigger. I see no advantage of the bigger screen, when one can spend a $999 and get a multitasking laptop with all the features you need without the touch.

This device needed something to set it apart, and they failed on that front. It needed a front facing camera for video chats. It could of had multi tasking since if this is a netbook killer, all netbooks can multitask. Sorry Jobs, you failed. You made a picture frame with an iPhone OS. Come back to me when you put the i5 in the laptops, I wanna upgrade.

the keynote could have been 5 minutes long. "Hey we took the iPhone and made it bigger, booya!" I can't believe this is it.

Yeah - epic disappointment. Was really hoping for front facing camera & iChat; multi-tasking; e-ink for i-books; larger storage capacity. Magical??? More like "pedestrian".

I sort of feel the same way I did about the MacBook Air. Meh. Nice product but hardly revolutionary.
 
cellphone makers - are just trying for dear life to create a new category that nobody cares for.

Steve jobs once said not to chase the trends but to create them

Apple has failed :apple:

Nobody? Is that why a small start-up with no real proven track record of providing consumer products managed to get 68,929 people to pony up a total of $10,266,845 on Kickstarter for a simple smart-watch, before they even had a working product?

Apple will sell many of these because there is indeed a demand for smart-watches, whereby only some will buy it because they will actually use it and some will buy it as a status symbol.
 
I think the cheap ones will be out first and plentiful with the others taking longer to get into widespread production. Not used a watch in many years so I don't know if I'd get one but at $350 it might be nice to get just to be part of it.
 
Seriously, who is going to buy these? Not only for the hight price. In my case, last thing I need is to find myself trouble-shooting software problems with my watch, on top of other devices that require time and effort to keep running well.
 
I see zero value in owning one, except for 'owning one'. If you do end up finding a decent reason, please let me know.

Buy one as an investment and never open it. Just keep it in the box. Similar to the original iPhone, it might be worth something one day...even after the OS and tech gets obsoleted after 2 years!
 
You'll be waiting 10 year, or until battery tech improves immensely with the current use cases of the Apple Watch, whatever comes first. If your usage is quite light, you could see something within 5-6 years even without new battery tech just because SOC efficiency is improving.

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Considering they didn't even distinguish in saying 1 day between the big one and the small one, I'd wager the bigger 42mm watch lasts close to 1.5 days of pretty intense use, 1 day for the smaller 38mm one.

True, but with all wireless tech (Apple products included), that 1 - 1.5 days of battery life when the devices are brand new, easily slips to maybe .75 - 1/1.25 battery life after a year.

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I can see neither utility, nor beauty in these watches.

They are pretty ugly IMO. And the prices make me laugh. Pay $500 for something that needs to be upgraded every two years? No thanks.
 
I also haven't worn a watch in years, but I really want to try this thing out.

I want to get one for my girlfriend and do that sending of heartbeats and drawing stuff instantly on her wrist - the ultimate geek romantic toy kinda thing.

I don't think any of us can really make definite negative predictions. I remember people not wanting a phone without buttons very clearly.

Who knows what coolness will develop from Apple watch workflows? There may be a killer app that makes more people realize they want it. It's loaded with cool sensors, that appeals to me!

I remember very clearly when Bill Gates said something like, "Every home will have a PC," my father saying, "We'll never own a PC." And now my parents have a computer in every room.

I said something similar to my wife nearly 30 years later when the iPad came out. Now she and I have 4 iPads in the house.

I've learned to never discount tech, even if it appears to be niche.
 
We can never tell how the iWatch is going to turn out. When the iphone came out it was not meant to run Apps. It was supposed to be a phone to browse the net.

Maybe people will find uses for the iWatch, maybe not. I think one of the best uses is to be able to control other electronic devices like TV's.
 
Steve jobs once said not to chase the trends but to create them

Apple has failed :apple:

....while chasing MP3 players with an iPod, chasing Netbooks with an Macbook Air, chasing smart phones with an iPhone and chasing tablets with an iPad.:D
 
They are pretty ugly IMO. And the prices make me laugh. Pay $500 for something that needs to be upgraded every two years? No thanks.

When did Apple say you have to upgrade every two years? We know nothing about this device except that the cheapest model will start at $349.
 
I hope they will at least produce the detachable bands in advance. Imagine waiting so long for the watch, only to discover that your preferred band is sold out. They better build that inventory well in advance.

Interesting. Figuring out the preferred band ahead of time will be hard for Apple. That said, the bands should be easy to build, especially the plastic ones. Of course I've seen Apple run out of cases at iPhone launch. So who knows.

I'm guessing the steal watch goes for $500. If it is $400, then that is the price without the band. Some of the bands for the steal watch are really nice. The bands alone are worth the jump from $350 to $400, they are that nice.
 
True, but with all wireless tech (Apple products included), that 1 - 1.5 days of battery life when the devices are brand new, easily slips to maybe .75 - 1/1.25 battery life after a year.

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They are pretty ugly IMO. And the prices make me laugh. Pay $500 for something that needs to be upgraded every two years? No thanks.

I'm still using my 3GS on its original battery, so battery tech is not as bad as you think it is; especially if you're not a heavy user and simply top off the battery every day.

These days, one cell seems to have died a few weeks ago, so it goes from 20% to %0 instantly, but besides that, still chugging with a few hours of browsing before dying. If I use it as a phone in an area with decent reception, it still lasts all day.

If the battery is rated for 500 full charges and the average user just tops up (no full charges because they're not using it intensively, ) it could easily last a full day for 2-3 years under medium use. BTW, many people I know replace the battery in their supposedly not replaceable Iphone for $30-50 bucks. I doubt it would be even that expensive for the watch, maybe #20 bucks.

I also get the feeling that unlike other phones, the battery in this one will be replaceable. The internals of the watch seems a lot more modular than the phone.
 
They are pretty ugly IMO. And the prices make me laugh. Pay $500 for something that needs to be upgraded every two years? No thanks.

Yes, we get it. But you and others with similar sentiments are not the market for this watch. Millions will be sold in spite of you, just as Chevy sells millions of cars and trucks in spite of me.
 
When did Apple say you have to upgrade every two years? We know nothing about this device except that the cheapest model will start at $349.

because it WILL be updated every year. You're forgetting that this is not a classic mechanized watch, its a digital device and in this day and age, 1 year old product is already technologically obsolete. Its not like some Rolex that maintains its value, this watch will already lose 20% of its value after purchasing it. Thats just how it is with digital things. Apple and some folks are expecting too much from this.
 
Interesting. Figuring out the preferred band ahead of time will be hard for Apple. That said, the bands should be easy to build, especially the plastic ones. Of course I've seen Apple run out of cases at iPhone launch. So who knows.

I'm guessing the steal watch goes for $500. If it is $400, then that is the price without the band. Some of the bands for the steal watch are really nice. The bands alone are worth the jump from $350 to $400, they are that nice.

Here's what Apple says about some of the bands on their website:

LINK BRACELET
Crafted from the same 316L stainless steel alloy as the case, the Link Bracelet has more than 100 components. The machining process is so precise, it takes nearly nine hours to cut the links for a single band. In part that’s because they aren’t simply a uniform size, but subtly increase in width as they approach the case. Once assembled, the links are brushed by hand to ensure that the texture follows the contours of the design.

MILANESE LOOP
A modern interpretation of a design developed in Milan at the end of the 19th century. Woven on specialized Italian machines, the smooth stainless steel mesh wraps fluidly around your wrist.

MODERN BUCKLE
A small French tannery established in 1803 produces the supple Granada leather for this elegant band. The smooth top-grain leather is lightly milled and tumbled to maintain its refined texture.

LEATHER LOOP
The Venezia leather for this band is handcrafted in Arzignano, Italy. With an artisan heritage spanning five generations, the tannery has a history of partnership with some of the most prestigious names in fashion.

CLASSIC BUCKLE
From the renowned ECCO tannery in the Netherlands, the Dutch leather used for this band is milled to give the grain a subtle, distinctive texture.

So one link bracelet takes nine hours to complete. And it appears that the materials for the others are coming from Europe. That makes me wonder if all the components of this device will be manufactured in China or if China will just be for final assembly? Or will the Edition watch not be manufactured in China at all? Notice on the marketing materials the back of the watch doesn't say anything about where it was made/assembled.

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because it WILL be updated every year. You're forgetting that this is not a classic mechanized watch, its a digital device and in this day and age, 1 year old product is already technologically obsolete. Its not like some Rolex that maintains its value, this watch will already lose 20% of its value after purchasing it. Thats just how it is with digital things. Apple and some folks are expecting too much from this.

Hey I know people that are still using an iPad 2 and an iPhone 4s. Watch might be updated every year but that doesn't mean the existing one will become obsolete. Plus the internals look quite modular so who knows what Apple's plans are in regards to upgradability. The watch is so different from anything else they've done I don't think we can really look to other products to predict what they'll do here.

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I think the delays probably had to do with the failed sapphire but I'll betcha the Apple watch will be release with Gorilla glass and not sapphire.

No the delays are to do with getting the software to work properly and the battery to last more than 1/2 a day.
 
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