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Too thick for me and those bezels are horrible.

I think they look thicker from afar they feel when they're on. I agree on the bezels though. Probably one of the two big changes they need to make (thinness and edge to edge screen). Apple is clever the way they use black design to make the screen look larger but those black frames around the screen really hurt the look of most of the content in my opinion.
 
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The few people I know who bought an Apple Watch - including myself - bought the Series 1. With the same internals as the Series 2 and a (slightly) sub-$300 price point, it seems like a compelling device.
Seems, yes. Actually the internals are a bit more different.

Besides the usually mentioned GPS and waterproofness of Series 2, it also features a brighter display and bigger battery over Series 1. Especially the latter probably makes a difference in common use cases. And Series 2 also brought a ceramic back to the alumin(i)um version.

Series 1 is what Series 0 should have been: Entry-level product at a lower price point to attract people and draw them into the ecosystem. The faster processor is not a real advancement, but a fix for a serious hardware problem of Series 0.
 
Ok, succesful or not succesful, did it evolve enough to be useful to someone who doesn't need to track his exercising and turns off most notifications?
 
Apple updated it with the watchOS 2.0 which was much faster, and watchOS 3.0 which was even faster and the batt life improved even more.

I think you are confusing updates -> make device slow from other brands to Apple...

Try using an iPad 2 or iPhone 4s running ios 9 and get back to me on that.
 
Imagine how well an iPhone independent edition would do!

That is the moment when those smartwatches might become interesting. If they weren't afraid of cannibalizing their cash cows, the watches would have been independent from the phones right from the start. And if you closely look at it, it should have been the phone that was dependent on the watch, not the other way around. The watch is something you WEAR and that is ALWAYS with you. The phone is the thing that you can easily leave behind. So... The actual phone functionality should wander into the watch with the phone being a pure extension to it.

But, well. They don't have that kind of courage, do they?

As for the sales: Welcome to the first world. It's the kind of useless things that we give away in that season because we already have everything else. It's not like anybody is giving away anything that would actually be needed. And those smart watches are at the epicenter of useless toys.
 
Wow so unexpected to read how everyone loves their Apple Watch !

It's the best ever! Oh joy!

Why is there no mention that the wearable market is declining?

The watch is great for casual workouts.

Because in the future, there won't be a smartwatch market, only an Apple Watch market.
 
"Demand for Apple's new Watch Series 2 as a holiday-season gift in Western markets was surprisingly strong and it enabled Apple to clear a large backlog of smartwatch inventory during the quarter,"

Because Apple lowered the price. They should drop it even further.

$299 for AW2 and $199 for AW1.

I think Apple may have sold twice as much if the initial price in 2014 would have been $299.

Go for market share, not outlandish profits, and you get more and happier customers, and more money in the long run.
Because that clearly worked for well for their competitors.

Apple is already having problems meeting demand for the Apple Watch even at their current prices.

Tell me again how Apple is supposed to magically conjure up more Apple watches to meet this higher demand?
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They will need to open it up to work with other phones first or make it work without the aid of a phone.
Look at the tablet market. Most tablets are cheap Android tablets that receive next to no support. For all intents and purposes, the tablet market is the iPad market, in that the iPad may not have majority market share, it's pretty much the only tablet which matters.

I believe we will see a similar scenario play out with the Apple Watch. OEMs don't seem to be showing much enthusiasm with Android Wear. Consumers don't seem willing to pay a decent price for them (lurk around Android forums and many feel it shouldn't cost more than $100, despite clamouring for smartphone-level functionality).

Because the Apple Watch is so lucrative and successful, Apple will continue to invest in pushing said product forward, which in turn ensures its continued survival and success. Conversely, the tepid response for Android Wear will pretty much seal its fate. Even if the Apple Watch never gets updated to work with Android smartphones, it doesn't matter. It will be the only smartwatch which matters and which will be worth getting.
 
Even if the Apple Watch never gets updated to work with Android smartphones, it doesn't matter. It will be the only smartwatch which matters and which will be worth getting.
Do you expect the other manufacturers to just give up then? What's to say the competition can't learn lessons from the Apple Watch and improve their smartwatches so they can compete?
 
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So in total Apple has sold over 25 million watches. Pretty impressive. Cracks me up how some people call it a flop.

Tell it to Cook who sells 5m macs a quarter and still neglects the hardware with couple of years between updates
 
Do you expect the other manufacturers to just give up then? What's to say the competition can't learn lessons from the Apple Watch and improve their smartwatches so they can compete?
Because I simply don't think the market is there.

People won't pay for Android Wear watches, plain and simple. This will result in a race to the bottom where the only way to sell more watches is to cut prices, which in turn limits the quality of said products, which results in a vicious downward spiral all the way till it hits rock bottom. And they won't be able to target iPhone users because Apple will never let them.

Apple may not have the most customers when it comes to sheer numbers, but I can safely and confidently say that Apple by far has the best customers, in that we don't mind paying a premium for a superior user experience. And this is what will help buoy and sustain the Apple ecosystem of products and services.
 
I have Series 0, and it's incredibly slow – to the point that it's usually faster to pull my phone out. Did you notice a big speed change with Series 2 that made it more useable?
I use an SS S0. It's super quick, just add the apps to the dock. It was awful on firmware 2 though
 
Because I simply don't think the market is there.

People won't pay for Android Wear watches, plain and simple. This will result in a race to the bottom where the only way to sell more watches is to cut prices, which in turn limits the quality of said products, which results in a vicious downward spiral all the way till it hits rock bottom. And they won't be able to target iPhone users because Apple will never let them.

Apple may not have the most customers when it comes to sheer numbers, but I can safely and confidently say that Apple by far has the best customers, in that we don't mind paying a premium for a superior user experience. And this is what will help buoy and sustain the Apple ecosystem of products and services.
Android wear watches felt a screen strapped to your wrist (i had the first LG one, it was dire). The Apple Watch does feel like a watch (especially the SS ones). I know lots of people who sold Fitbits to buy an Apple Watch and even people who used normal automatic watches now going for an Apple Watch.

It's slowly catching momentum :)
 
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Because I simply don't think the market is there.

People won't pay for Android Wear watches, plain and simple. This will result in a race to the bottom where the only way to sell more watches is to cut prices, which in turn limits the quality of said products, which results in a vicious downward spiral all the way till it hits rock bottom. And they won't be able to target iPhone users because Apple will never let them.

Apple may not have the most customers when it comes to sheer numbers, but I can safely and confidently say that Apple by far has the best customers, in that we don't mind paying a premium for a superior user experience. And this is what will help buoy and sustain the Apple ecosystem of products and services.

Apple customers are a special breed?
 
Tell me again how Apple is supposed to magically conjure up more Apple watches to meet this higher demand?

They can of course ramp up production, telling their partners they want larger quantities. If Apple can produce 200 million iPhone a year, 20 million AW should not be a problem.
 
1984 is here.
The reference is lost to me.
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They can of course ramp up production, telling their partners they want larger quantities. If Apple can produce 200 million iPhone a year, 20 million AW should not be a problem.
And what makes you think Apple isn't already trying to do so?
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Apple customers are a special breed?
More a lucrative and highly-sought-after demographic.
 
I was looking for this typical macrumors reader comment.
Was not disappointed.

LOL. Agreed, the trolls and haters are pretty evident in an article with "Apple..DOMINATED.." as the title.
Sometimes Apple deserves criticism or skepticism but clearly Apple is outpacing it's competitors. Of course, they are held to a much higher expectation than other companies. Let's face it. No one expects much from Microsoft anymore with the number of failed or panned Windows releases littering their past. Samsung is still trying to shed it's "monkey see, monkey do" history of copying Apple.
I used my Apple Watch a lot when I first got it and then my usage dwindled. It was great but I didn't need it. However, I'm using Siri on my MBP, iPhone and iPad a great deal more now (as an Alexa/Echo alternative) so I am going to see how Siri on Watch performs.
 
And what makes you think Apple isn't already trying to do so?

You can get a Series 1 delivered today and Series 2 within 3-5 days in US. Why should Apple produce tens of million of additional AW without a demand?

They need to lower the price, if they want more demand (and market share).
 
More a lucrative and highly-sought-after demographic.

Are you sure? I see 6 year old kids with iPhones and iPads, I can buy a prepaid iPhone at 7-11, Walmart and Target sell Apple products too. Not exactly high end, high class retailers.
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Apple's advert warning about IBM's domination of the personal computer market in the early eighties.

Apple has become what they once abhorred.
 
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