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Apple Watch Drops to Just 5% Share of Wearables Market as Basic Fitness Trackers 'Reign Supreme'
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Jony Ive has your apple watch?
Please don't do car analogies. MR forum members really suck at car analogies.
On topic: This doesn't surprise me at all. Smartwatches are a niche in a niche category. They're superfluous, like a 3rd boob on a woman's back. Great for dancing, but otherwise ruins the line of her dress.
Yeah, I would like to see the profit taken figures. I'm sure it would be another "Apple has 98% of profit in the wearables market." (I hope no one took a loss because I don't want to have that "how can you have more than 100% of the profits argument again.")
I just picked up an Series 0 on black Friday for $190 shipped, my better half has had a Series 0 since last Christmas as well as a few good friends. Their input led me to NOT spend extra money on a Series 1 or Series 2, they all said they really just use it as a watch and sometimes notifications are handy to receive on the wrist instead of pulling out your phone from your pocket. I just received it last week and have been wearing it sparingly until some accessories (case protector and screen protector) come in, so far I agree with their assessments. I tried out a Pebble Steel circa 2012/2013 and liked it but ended up getting rid of it after a month (or so), I also tried out a fitbit surge shortly after, the fitbit seemed to fitness oriented and the pebble not enough fitness oriented. We'll see how I feel about the apple watch in a month.
It's too expensive and you have to have an iPhone on you to do a lot of basic functions. All I want is a running tracker. Garmin beats this in every area for me.
I wonder if like with the phones Apple takes 5% of wearable market yet 95% of profit.
I know it may be a small use case for most people, but it is extremely convenient to leave my smart phone in the gym locker and still have a connection via my apple watch and listen to music on my wireless headphones.
If you are an
fanboi pushing healthkit, then yes the numbers are apples to apples. If you are looking at a fitbit vs a someday fully functional wrist appliance, then no the numbers do not belong together. Usage cases really apply here and the these numbers need to be taken that way.The Apple news just gets worse and worse. There is something very wrong within Apple.
Cost is a big factor of course. I haven't had the need for it but if I did the price matters. Otherwise no thanks.
Its not even in competition with "fitness wearables" in the first place. Those users are not looking for an Apple Watch, and Apple Watch buyers are not looking for one of those.
So the non-stop comparison as if there were in the same market is ridiculous.
So the non-stop comparison as if there were in the same market is ridiculous.
Those of us with $$ need to spend it some way...!!!
No one here seems to understand that this isn't entirely because the other wearables are cheaper. People like a watch that is smaller, and less intrusive. This is why it is so sad to see Pebble go. Their watches had enough features to be well worth the price, but weren't so over-featured that, in many people's opinion, it would get in your way.
Well not really. You got any idea how much it costs to R+D these things?
It's like those rubbish "The $349 Apple Watch costs just $84 to make' articles - that don't take into account yield, R+D, tooling, shipping, marketing, Wages, Everything else under the sun
Even 'some' of the bands cost seem stupidly expensive like the Metal link straps... but they are way cheaper than a steel rolex / tag etc - and I think better quality.
Perhaps they could have made the price spread across the range a little better. And they have done the right thing in upgrading the Chip for the cheaper S1.
As for market share - They are the best selling watch. Comparing a fitbit to the watch is stupid... might as well include plastic bangles, Friendship bands and those charity Rubber strap things
This is like comparing the new MBP to the previous generation.
The old MBP is like the Watch, and the new MBP is the FitBit. Apples and oranges.
The old MBP is like the Watch, and the new MBP is the FitBit. Apples and oranges.
I agree. i love this thing. People always complain about the battery life but i can get three days out of mine.
In somewhat related news, Yoky Matsuoka has reportedly left Apple.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...h-technology-executive-said-to-depart-company
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...h-technology-executive-said-to-depart-company
Yes but that doesn't mean it isn't overpriced as a product. The bands are ridiculously priced but that's because they think they are positioning it as a premium watch, in the same group as Rolex and Tag but the truth is they aren't. They realised that with the Edition.
that's a terrible comparison. lol
apple watch 400$ avg? basic fitness watch 100$?
how about a MB E Class to a Toyota Camry
Interesting that "Others" make up almost 50% of market share.
I had a Withings Activité Pop watch for almost a year and a half. I loved that it ran on a standard watch battery that only needed to be replaced every nine months or so. It tracked steps and sleep (and supposedly swimming after a firmware update but I could never get it to track that). I thought it did everything I wanted a watch/activity tracker to do.
Funny enough, the band broke on that watch the same day that the Apple Watch Series 1 and 2 were announced. Since I was going to have to wait for Withings to send me a new band if I kept using the Withings watch since you can't buy replacement bands in stores, I decided to go without a watch for a few weeks and then spring for the Series 2 once stock was available.
Now that I've had the Series 2 for almost two and a half months, I can say that I wouldn't want to use any other tracker that's currently on the market. The seamless integration between the watch and the iPhone is *the* reason to get the Apple Watch, in my opinion.
Since I've gotten the watch, my phone has remained on silent, which has been great for everyone else around me, I'm sure. Any apps that I'm concerned about getting notifications for can push notifications to the watch. Any other apps that I'm not concerned about getting notifications about don't get "push privileges" to the watch. For the first time since I've owned an iPhone in 2009, if I'm at home and I don't have my iPhone within arm's reach, I don't care. I know that anything important will automatically go to my watch. Everything else...eh, I'll see it the next time I pick up my phone.
Battery life on the Apple Watch has been outstanding since the watchOS 3.1 update -- much better than I was expecting it to be. I was expecting to have to charge the watch every night; and while I still do charge the watch every night, I think I could make it through two or three days between charges. I base that on the fact that since the update to 3.1, the watch usually has anywhere between 60-75% battery life remaining after being off the charger for 16 to 18 hours. Keep in mind, too, that while I say I charge the watch every night, most nights, the watch is fully charged by the time I'm done reading in bed -- ~45 minutes to an hour after being placed on the charger.
So, as skeptical as I was about the Apple Watch since its inception, I must say that I am now a fan.
I had a Withings Activité Pop watch for almost a year and a half. I loved that it ran on a standard watch battery that only needed to be replaced every nine months or so. It tracked steps and sleep (and supposedly swimming after a firmware update but I could never get it to track that). I thought it did everything I wanted a watch/activity tracker to do.
Funny enough, the band broke on that watch the same day that the Apple Watch Series 1 and 2 were announced. Since I was going to have to wait for Withings to send me a new band if I kept using the Withings watch since you can't buy replacement bands in stores, I decided to go without a watch for a few weeks and then spring for the Series 2 once stock was available.
Now that I've had the Series 2 for almost two and a half months, I can say that I wouldn't want to use any other tracker that's currently on the market. The seamless integration between the watch and the iPhone is *the* reason to get the Apple Watch, in my opinion.
Since I've gotten the watch, my phone has remained on silent, which has been great for everyone else around me, I'm sure. Any apps that I'm concerned about getting notifications for can push notifications to the watch. Any other apps that I'm not concerned about getting notifications about don't get "push privileges" to the watch. For the first time since I've owned an iPhone in 2009, if I'm at home and I don't have my iPhone within arm's reach, I don't care. I know that anything important will automatically go to my watch. Everything else...eh, I'll see it the next time I pick up my phone.
Battery life on the Apple Watch has been outstanding since the watchOS 3.1 update -- much better than I was expecting it to be. I was expecting to have to charge the watch every night; and while I still do charge the watch every night, I think I could make it through two or three days between charges. I base that on the fact that since the update to 3.1, the watch usually has anywhere between 60-75% battery life remaining after being off the charger for 16 to 18 hours. Keep in mind, too, that while I say I charge the watch every night, most nights, the watch is fully charged by the time I'm done reading in bed -- ~45 minutes to an hour after being placed on the charger.
So, as skeptical as I was about the Apple Watch since its inception, I must say that I am now a fan.
In what world is a Fitbit 30 dollars? They go all the way up to 250, which is around the Apple Watch starting price. Obviously you can get them for cheaper, but you're being a bit silly on the price there. Comparable smart watches are around the same price range.
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