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This thing will sell like crazy. People I know who do not own an iPhone want one and will be buying an iPhone so they can use it. It will drive millions to not only buy the Watch, but to buy a new iPhone as well. Apple Pay is another reason people are stating as a reason for moving to iPhone. I got an email today from Chase saying they are supporting Apple Pay and urging its use. This is going to be huge for Apple.
 
People with something negative to say are more likely to want to say it online.

The real test will be how well these things sell. The naysayers will also have bad things to say about the people who buy the Apple Watch, but the sales numbers will speak for themselves.

If it doesn't sell well people will point to lots of different reasons. Could be due to the ID, or functionality, or just the challenge of selling a smart watch.
 
I should probably know this, but what is a "PP"?

I'd guess Patek Philippe.

All about fixing battery life.

Good point. That'll be the decider as to whether or not people keep wearing it past the honeymoon period.

Ugh, what a terrible name. Have to say "Apple Watch" or nobody knows WTF you're talking about.

It's an attempt to make people think of Apple whenever they hear such a common word. Like calling a windowing system, "Windows" :)

Tom: "Hey, I just bought a new watch."
Jane: "Do you mean an Apple Watch??"
 
This thing will sell like crazy. People I know who do not own an iPhone want one and will be buying an iPhone so they can use it. It will drive millions to not only buy the Watch, but to buy a new iPhone as well. Apple Pay is another reason people are stating as a reason for moving to iPhone. I got an email today from Chase saying they are supporting Apple Pay and urging its use. This is going to be huge for Apple.

Completely agree!
 
yesterday's negative blog vibe was the result of a significant smear effort payroll by samsung.

Samsung couldn't sell many of their watches as it was.

They might actually move more now as people see how cool the Apple Watch is and see out an android knockoff/alternative.

A rising tide lifts all boats...or something like that.
 
A sports band with built-in cellular/3G would have been an absolute winner; instead Apple is going the jewelry route, and being subjected to the multitude of comparisons to high end watches.

As the trend in smartphones is going bigger for more screen real estate, there is a market for those who would also like to slap on an "iBand" and head out jogging, swimming, surfing, grocery store, whatever without having to tote along an ever bigger and bigger phone. If we could call, message, FaceTime and get all these fitness sensors in a band, I think it would be an absolute winner. The band allows for so much room to disperse the circuitry required for all this, so that everything need not be stuffed under a screen.

Well, as the Apple Watch is not even available till 2015, I guess I can stop dreaming of this. Makes me want to root for Samsung for the first time ever to step in and fill this market (not the Gear S though...please no)
I think Apple wants to position this as a lifestyle-fashion accessory for the masses, and not a device for tech nerds.

Remember, there was a market for calculator watches back in the day. It just wasn't a very big one.

I bought DataLink watches back in the day. You synched them to your computer by holding it up to the CRT monitor, which flashed out codes. It was cool tech, but didn't really catch on.
 
How thick is this thing?

Same question.
I went to the Apple website and I saw nothing on thickness but I did some measurement and ratios on my screen and if the case is 42mm wide then the Apple watch is about 14-15mm thick.

Too thick..........
I'm wearing a Hamilton 6319 (attached pic) now and it's about 8mm thick with lugs that have a curve that follow the wrist.

I wear watches and this thing is not even close to the shape and look of a "quality Swiss timepiece".

While Vogue and other may like it, as a watch guy I don't.
It looks bulbous from the side with no wrist curvature.

I'll PASS and keep wearing "real quality timepieces".

What watch experts did they consult?
The Swiss have nothing to worry about.
 

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I have the exact same issue. PLUS. Take a look at this ad from the keynote... all these attractive people with their watches... but where in the world are they keeping the iPhone? especially the runners!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUE_M8A5yxnLfW0KghEeajjw&v=CPpMeRCG1WQ#t=108

No way am I gonna carry a 4.7 or 5.5 in my arm band just to have the watch on as well, feels redundant with the motion coprocessor.

You don't have to use the iphone for fitness stuff except when u want to track your route via gps.
 
yesterday's negative blog vibe was the result of a significant smear effort payroll by samsung.

No, it was Apple looking at the non-manipulated reaction for one day to see whether or not they needed to activate the PR machine or if maybe it would sell on its own. Oh wow did they turn on the machine today, at full power! I'm blown away!
 
Nano doesn't do any of the things that make the Watch interesting.

Ugh, what a terrible name. Have to say "Apple Watch" or nobody knows WTF you're talking about.

Perhaps my metaphor was too cryptic. The iPod Nano is to "Apple Watch" as iPod Classic is to iPod Touch.

The form factor, shape, and basic aesthetic is the same, while significantly improving fit and finish, not to mention a quantum leap in functionality. Its not a stretch to see it:
 

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Two things that would stop me from buying a smart watch

1) No waterproof (I surf a lot)

2) The apps become too stressful for your current watch (iphone) to handle within 2 years and you would be buying a whole new watch.

I usually keep a watch for about 10+ years and the batteries almost make that distance too lol.

Proper surfers will wear something like a Nixon ... not a toy watch like this surely!
 
Proper surfers will wear something like a Nixon ... not a toy watch like this surely!

Exactly.

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Perhaps my metaphor was too cryptic. The iPod Nano is to "Apple Watch" as iPod Classic is to iPod Touch.

The form factor, shape, and basic aesthetic is the same, while significantly improving fit and finish, not to mention a quantum leap in functionality. Its not a stretch to see it:

I think you got it wrong.
I would much prefer to have a nano on my wrist than the new Apple Watch.
 
Color me nutty - I think the design is quite nice. I think the functionality is quite nice - if you don't mind it tethering to an iPhone.

However I really don't think Apple has redefined the smart watch space.

Just like those that have come before it - it's got battery limitations, it's tied to one platform, trying to do a lot/perhaps too much on a small screen.

Again - great device, great design. Not a fan of the price point and how it will go up from there. Nor the fact that this fashion accessory is likely to realistically only have a shelf life of under 5 years given that we all know they will update it often.

I just don't see how some people are willing to claim that this watch is revolutionary or that Apple just redefined the market of smart watches. I see it more as they have a great entry into it.
 
Considering we're still probably six months from a production run on these things, they probably haven't seen the inside of any factory, domestic or otherwise. Most likely lots of custom milling on the cases and very personalized production of the circuit boards. Also, I'd love to see the size of a watch that had a million handmade bolts, nuts, screws, springs, and rubies in it. Are they still winding those springs by hand as they did in days of yore? And when you say "watch" do you actually mean "grandfather clock"?

Keep going. This is fun.
You could just google any of the big swiss names.
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The complexity of these watches far exceeds that of the apple watch which is just a chip and a few smartphone components. And I am willing my entire life on this that no business man would ever choose an apple watch over a classic swiss watch.
 
Well, you know those nice straps aren't going to be included with the $349 watch. You'll just get the cheap rubber one for that price (IF you're lucky).

Actually I don't know that. Neither do you. Your suggestion that Apple would sell the watch without a strap is simply bait. Yawn.

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I'm waiting for :apple:Phone2 with facetime camera...ala Inspector Gadget.

I have to think it will happen in the not distant future.
 
As someone else pointed out, this is nothing but a remastered, albeit kickass, iPod Nano..

disagree. While the form factor is similar with it's screen being square it's not the same thing at all. - different screen, casing, internals, sensors, charging, operating system etc.
 
The complexity of these watches far exceeds that of the apple watch which is just a chip and a few smartphone components.
I take it you're not familiar with component design? :rolleyes:

Two distinctly different animals, two fields with two entirely different set of engineering issues.

The S1, as we will see when chipworks gets to do its thing, is going to be a milestone in the industry.
 
This is a case where I think thinner may actually be better. They look too thick and bulky. It may be best to wait for revision 2 for them to get it thinner.

Yeah, but this isn't Samsung, its apple; so don't expect an update for at least a year (whilst other manufacturers continually refine and launch) ... and even then, it'll be the iwatch S ... more of the same at a new high price.
 
I'm a real watch collector. My thoughts are these:

I've not seen it personally. The addition of a milanese bracelet shocked me since it's a very uncommon choice which I've only seen on watch enthusiasts or watches for enthusiast nowadays, whatever you prefer, it's like saying "hey we were reading something about your culture"

About the quality of the machining and building I have to say that I probably would agree with the opinion which says that you can't find this kind of quality in that price range. If it is as good as it looks in pictures, the bracelet is sublime, well into the 1000+ dollars swiss watch quality. Better than a hamilton x-wind steel bracelet, for example. The case also seems to be very well finished, I would like to try the feeling of that crown, bracelet and clasp.

The design. I feel indifferent about it, neither good nor bad, very generic, very innocuous. I don't think it's too bulky since nowadays bulk watches are quite in talking about sport luxury watches, and it's trendy for a woman to use men watches. It does not have a lot of personality, but I have to say that I think that this is one of those designs which keep growing on you.

Overall I think it's a design which needs these months before the launch to become really loved. I won't be buying it because I have a lot of other watches which look much nicer IMO, but they are also much more expensive. If I weren't biased about its electronic nature I would say it's a good buy between 350-1000 usd, talking about build quality.
 
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