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I think accuracy, independent of phone, is learned

I thought I saw on an earlier Apple video that when you first start using Apple watch, you should use it with the phone for GPS but as you use it, I believe it calibrates itself so that it becomes more accurate independent of the phone.

For best accuracy, pack the phone, but for "good-enough" estimations of your workout, you should be able to leave your phone behind after a short time working out with the phone (I think a week or so is enough to calibrate your movements against GPS?)
 
ugh, there needs to be a "weights" choice within the workout app
That a fundamental limitation with the current crop of fitness trackers: accelerometers all about movement pertaining to cardio. Even if some engineer invents a sensor to track time under tension, it probably won't work on a device worn on a single wrist.
 
That a fundamental limitation with the current crop of fitness trackers: accelerometers all about movement pertaining to cardio. Even if some engineer invents a sensor to track time under tension, it probably won't work on a device worn on a single wrist.

Right, but I could still see some apps (if they aren't already written) to give you cues to help you hit a certain speed of reps for different exercises (not by sensing but just a pre-set timer), alert you for when your rest time between sets is over, etc. Using the taptic feedback of course.
 
The lifeless-unmoving wrist wearing the watch in these videos continues to creep me out.

What's really funny is that for the first couple of videos I was sure that it was a mannequin. But I did see that wrist move - once. :eek:
 
Too Much Apple watch

Way too much about apple watch, maybe you could start a separate site/section
 
Right, but I could still see some apps (if they aren't already written) to give you cues to help you hit a certain speed of reps for different exercises (not by sensing but just a pre-set timer), alert you for when your rest time between sets is over, etc. Using the taptic feedback of course.
Maybe when devs have access to the taptic engine, which only has a private API for now.
 
I have genuine questions, anyone know:

1) I play basketball. What do I select for fitness? Running maybe?

2) When they say "works better with the phone" do they mean works better if you wear your phone, or have your phone? I planned on leaving my phone over on the bleachers (like I always do) while I play ball with watch on my wrist.

Thanks!
 
Right, but I could still see some apps (if they aren't already written) to give you cues to help you hit a certain speed of reps for different exercises (not by sensing but just a pre-set timer), alert you for when your rest time between sets is over, etc. Using the taptic feedback of course.
Check out the reps and set app for gym tracking. Their watch extension is coming and does all of that (which the app currently does too). I use it everyday.
 
I thought I saw on an earlier Apple video that when you first start using Apple watch, you should use it with the phone for GPS but as you use it, I believe it calibrates itself so that it becomes more accurate independent of the phone.

For best accuracy, pack the phone, but for "good-enough" estimations of your workout, you should be able to leave your phone behind after a short time working out with the phone (I think a week or so is enough to calibrate your movements against GPS?)

Considering how crappy GPS is at measuring exact distances, I'm not even sure how GPS improves this. I believe GPS has a precision of about 8 meters (if you get good satellite coverage), that's not great to find out tempo, I get wild variations of speed when in fact I'm running constantly when I look at my GPS data precisely.

Average measures are a bit better (since variations are averaged out). But, even when running a track I know is 1km exactly, GPS never gives this number except by accident.

Software that is a combination of accelerometer data and GPS, probably eliminates those random fluctuations that seem unlikely (like position jumping forward 25 m in a 2 seconds while the accelerometer doesn't calculate any acceleration). This way, you get your real speed and tempo in relation to your arm speed.

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I have genuine questions, anyone know:

1) I play basketball. What do I select for fitness? Running maybe?

2) When they say "works better with the phone" do they mean works better if you wear your phone, or have your phone? I planned on leaving my phone over on the bleachers (like I always do) while I play ball with watch on my wrist.

Thanks!

If your phone is in the bleachers, and its not more than 100m away (which I would expect if you dont want someone to steel it), you'll be OK as the phone and watch will be connected through bluetooth LE. Though I wouldn't expect good GPS tracking when playing basket :). The accelerometer though will calculate your steps and speed adequately (though the constant change of tempo, direction, position, I guess could mess up the count).

Running is probably the best setup, but basketball is a very different type of running with a lot of changes of direction, tempo and non orthodox positions. Not sure if you'll get an exact count from that and what it would count exactly? I've played basket for 30 years myself.

You'll be getting your notifications during the game, kinda distracting though. A funny thing you could do is see yourself on the court through using your watch as a remote for your camera ;-) (someone probably needs to hold your phone for that though, unless you use a tripod).
 
I have genuine questions, anyone know:

1) I play basketball. What do I select for fitness? Running maybe?

2) When they say "works better with the phone" do they mean works better if you wear your phone, or have your phone? I planned on leaving my phone over on the bleachers (like I always do) while I play ball with watch on my wrist.

Thanks!
The most important part in this case would be the he monitoring. Set it to run and let that HR track calories.

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You'll be getting your notifications during the game, kinda distracting though. A funny thing you could do is see yourself on the court through using your watch as a remote for your camera ;-) (someone probably needs to hold your phone for that though, unless you use a tripod).

Do not disturb?
 
Using the accelerometer (steps taken). No different than how Fitbit works.

Yes, it does calculate steps the same way a Fitbit does. But, if you run a few times with your phone as well, the watch uses the gps data and the steps to calculate your stride, etc. So, it actually gets more accurate for those times you don't have your phone. Fitbit definitely does not do that.
 
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Who the f cares. No good without a watch in/on your hand!

Notice they're letting AA take all the heat? Where he hell is Cook? Hiding,as he damn well should be.

A subordinate takes the responsibility or is shown the door when there is negative customer feedback. That's the was TC rolls.
 
Yes, it does calculate steps the same way a Fitbit does. But, if you run a few times with your phone as well, the watch uses the gps data and the step to calculate your stride, etc. So, it actually gets more accurate for those times you don't have your phone. Fitbit definitely does not do that.

Good to know. Look forward to using it.
 
Way too much about apple watch, maybe you could start a separate site/section

The Watch will dominate for another couple of weeks or so. Then it's on to WWDC and the AppleTV and all the other things you want to read about. Then the next version of the iPhone will have its season, and you can read article after article about that.
 
Right, but I could still see some apps (if they aren't already written) to give you cues to help you hit a certain speed of reps for different exercises (not by sensing but just a pre-set timer), alert you for when your rest time between sets is over, etc. Using the taptic feedback of course.

i'm actually writing an app just like this in the style of Apple's fitness app for iPhone and Watch. If anyone is interested in using a beta build just PM me your email and all add you to the distribution!
 
Is it possible to use Apple Pay on the watch without having your Iphone with you??
 
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