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Apple Watch Hands-On: A First Look at Software, Apple Pay, Water Resistance, and More

laurim said:
I enjoy the way Apple makes products that make people with OTHER products insecure enough to need to bash them (and call people who like them names). It's awesome, lol.

But, hey, I'm sure you and Joe Biden will enjoy your Seamasters :) Does it have special James Bond features?
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Have you been to the threads about Samsung, Microsoft and Google products? I know you have. Clearly this goes both ways with a lot of people being insecure. However - sometimes feedback is just feedback and doesn't come from a place of insecurity.

I use the right tech for me. And I encourage everyone to do the same. I don't judge. I have no idea what your needs are. But please don't tell me how I should think or feel (not saying YOU - it's a comment to all). This

I do appreciate your humor though, laurim
 
Not good

So after reading Apples PR and several reviews, my opinion:

- not a lot of use, if I have to carry my iphone with me anyway, particularly for sports, it basically tells me on my wrist what I have in the pocket anyway?!? where is the benefit?! > fail
- a watch which not even lasts a full day is useless in business and travelling, and now I would have to carry 2 cables with me > fail
- with the bluetooth link I expect the iphone battery to last even less now, I already have trouble coming through the day with an iphone, if it wouldn't charge in the car
- no water proof for a watch is not acceptable, sorry but again for travelling and sports > fail
- only the higher priced watches use saphire glass?, come on, this is a watch, the device is more likely exposed to scratches, even more so than a smartphone
- personally I do not like the look, the design is hmm I would say infantile, but thats of course very subjective
- considering past experience with mobile devices, I do not expect the watch to be supported much longer than 4 years, considering that, the device is much overpriced (well particularly the bands), I rather spend triple the money or more in a classic watch which lasts a lifetime...
- I have a fuelband, (oh and I already had easily troubles with water, so I know for sure that the upper mentioned water issue will be a fail for many users soon...) but no, I do not want Apple to know my heartbeats, this is becoming to intimate

I prefer a swiss made long lasting watch, which is also a statement nowadays, than an overpriced "pokemon" like watch.
I like my iphone and i am using it since the first generation, but this watch is just not my cup of tea. Maybe 3rd Generation some Specs turn to the better.

my 2 cents
 
bobob said:
iPad sales are stagnant because the darn things last so long.
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Are you saying the iPhones are fragile and break easily?

Or is that a matter of Apple not being able to innovate, thus not giving people any good reason to update their iPads?
 
Teste said:
The current sales say otherwise. The iPad has become stagnant.
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The iPad is the basis for an entire market that, for the most part, didn't even exist five years ago. Current sales figures are irrelevant. My point was that over 200 million unsubsidized iPads have been sold since it was introduced. So I would say it's been a pretty solid return on investment for Apple.
 
oliversl said:
UI is a mess, real mess. The iPhone have only 1 button and big screen, the iWatch has 3 buttons: wheel, contact button and force press and a tiny screen.
Software is fluid, but UI is a mess, real mess.
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I would say, "somwhat of a mess"?

Best line I read this week is "apple watch is jonny ive's Newton". But I think this is little generous--the Newton prefigured the tablet or smartphone--mainstays of mobile tech. No one doubted the Newton would be useful is you could build it correctly.

The watch is on shakier ground--the value of even the best realized smartwatch is uncertain.
 
Andrei90 said:
Everything about the Apple Watch is a huge mistake in my opinion, starting from the product itself and going all the way to the three versions and ridiculous pricing. I'm with you on the brand degradation part, today might be the day Apple died, they are no longer a tech company, they're a luxury one... if you take into account only the Apple Watch part. But then you see them introducing a really great macbook, introducing researchkit (wich was the most revolutionary thing they presented), you see them revolutionising mobile payments... it gives you hope, they obviously are still doing really great stuff! Maybe the Apple Watch will be just one mistake like Virtual Boy was for Nintendo or the PS3 was for Sony, I really hope so.
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I just have this vision going to the stores and seeing millennials pranking on the huge gold watches. The one time tech oracle is now "your father's oldsmobile". "Computers for the one percent of us". etc. Things can change very quickly. Isn't Jony sort of punchline
already?
 
laurim said:
Now we know why you named yourself Ragermac. :p No, your watch doesn't make you look like a geek. Might make you look like a grandpa to some people. Which is lovely if you are one.

Be careful expecting you can get a lot for an old watch:

http://www.quora.com/Which-luxury-watch-brands-hold-their-value-best

Here are people selling your watch:

http://www.watchrecon.com/?query=omega+seamaster+professional

How do the prices compare? I don't know the answer since I would never pay that much for a watch, especially one that only tells time.
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First off, my watch is classic and will continue to work and look good for years. I can easily get more than half the original cost for the watch if I decide to sell it. The prices you see on those sites you linked are for old watches, ($2,000+) and they still retain the value and look great. It will literally last for decades and I can pass it down to my son after I die and it will still look beautiful and be functional.

The apple watch is a fad, it's not even waterproof. Even old casios are waterproof. It already looks outdated and it's not even released yet. It will not retain any real value and will become obsolete when new and improved items come out.
 
bobob said:
No Casio has ever been rated waterproof.
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No watch? Ever?

Well this one is rated to 200M - and is rated for everything except diving: http://www.princetonwatches.com/sho...hR-N8Eq5EPhYCYICDOmjEjn0YfTTlYupKxRoCVrvw_wcB

Further, this watch *IS* is diving watch: http://www.casio.com/products/archive/Watches/PRO_TREK/SPF100S-1V/

So when you say "no casio ever" - can you clarify?

ETA: ohhhh I think you're being literal. As in being classified that way. Perhaps valid - but I would say that being able to go diving with your watch is extremely acceptable for "water resistance."
 
I don't know, I am still on the fence about buying this thing. Maybe I will do like I did with the iPad and wait for gen. 2
 
samcraig said:
Have you been to the threads about Samsung, Microsoft and Google products? I know you have. Clearly this goes both ways with a lot of people being insecure. However - sometimes feedback is just feedback and doesn't come from a place of insecurity.

I use the right tech for me. And I encourage everyone to do the same. I don't judge. I have no idea what your needs are. But please don't tell me how I should think or feel (not saying YOU - it's a comment to all). This

I do appreciate your humor though, laurim
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Actually, no, I haven't been to any of those forums to troll but may visit if I have an issue with one of those products, Samsung tvs for example. I have a Samsung tv whose picture went out only a couple years in due to the crappy capacitors they used, which I diagnosed by Googling forums. Took Samsung a LONG time and a lawsuit to finally admit they had a problem and compensate people for what they spent to fix it on their own. On the plus side, I learned how to solder new capacitors on a tv board. I found out what capacitor to replace when it exploded into flames while I bent over the board trying to figure out which one was hissing. Thankfully, I thought to put on sunglasses for protection first, although if it had injured me I may have been set for life...thanks Samsung! So yes, I've been on a Samsung forum to find out from other people with the same problem what to do. Do I troll the articles about the Moto 360 trying to tell people to get an AppleWatch instead? No, that would be stupid.

I've never purposely gone to another company's forums to evangelize for Apple or bash other people's preferences or go to a product page only to comment that I don't want it because I know no one there cares if I want it or not. Those kind of comments are as useful to the conversation as "First!" What I DO do is rebut the lies and bad information people who apparently do have that time and inclination to troll like to spread. After all, I'm already there reading the article and trying to get more information from people who AREN'T there just to troll. I'd much rather just have interesting constructive conversations but that's not how many people are nowadays.
 
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LincolnsiPod said:
I agree, for those who don't get a lot of notifications I see less value in it, but I have clients I like to keep happy by showing how responsive I am, but without a watch solution I'm incessantly checking my iPhone every chance I get. I'll be relieved when the watch finally comes out.
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I'm with you..... not having to pull my 6+ out of my pocket will be nice.
 
laurim said:
Actually, no, I haven't been to any of those forums to troll but may visit if I have an issue with one of those products, Samsung tvs for example. I have a Samsung tv whose picture went out only a couple years in due to the crappy capacitors they used, which I diagnosed by Googling forums. Took Samsung a LONG time and a lawsuit to finally admit they had a problem and compensate people for what they spent to fix it on their own. On the plus side, I learned how to solder new capacitors on a tv board. I found out what capacitor to replace when it exploded into flames while I bent over the board trying to figure out which one was hissing. Thankfully, I thought to put on sunglasses for protection first, although if it had injured me I may have been set for life...thanks Samsung! So yes, I've been on a Samsung forum to find out from other people with the same problem what to do. Do I troll the articles about the Moto 360 trying to tell people to get an AppleWatch instead? No, that would be stupid.

I've never purposely gone to another company's forums to evangelize for Apple or bash other people's preferences or go to a product page only to comment that I don't want it because I know no one there cares if I want it or not. Those kind of comments are as useful to the conversation as "First!" What I DO do is rebut the lies and bad information people who apparently do have that time and inclination to troll like to spread. After all, I'm already there reading the article and trying to get more information from people who AREN'T there just to troll. I'd much rather just have interesting constructive conversations but that's not how many people are nowadays.
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Wow you missed my entire point. I said other threads. As in, on macrumors.
 
So did anyone test the raise to wake feature to see how sensitive it was? I can't seem to find anyone mentioning it, or even mentioning that there is a low power always on face mode either.
 
samcraig said:
Wow you missed my entire point. I said other threads. As in, on macrumors.
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I guess I don't know what point you are trying to make. This is MAC rumors. Are you surprised mostly people who are pro-Apple would be here? Do you have an issue with a specific post I may have made on a Microsoft thread? I do happen to use Microsoft/Google/Samsung products occasionally so would have legitimate opinions about my own experiences. Have I called anyone a "sheep" or any other childish name for using non-Apple products? No. I may have pointed out that calling people who choose the LESS common product a "sheep" makes no sense and the opposite of what a sheep would be defined as but, whatever. The "insecure" people are the ones who call people names, repeat lies about Apple and Apple products, make negative comments about products they've never used as if they have used them, etc. I welcome hearing negative feedback from people who have ACTUALLY used an Apple product to get their perspective. Everything else is just blather. You know full well there are people on here who just hate Apple and want to make people angry. I don't know what kind of fetish that is but it's annoying and not a constructive use of our time. But, hey, if people feel great to have the opportunity to brag about the expensive watch they will be using instead of the AppleWatch, good for them.zzzz
 
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GoJu said:
I don't see the attraction in spending $14K each time a new Apple Watch is released.
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I'm guessing people who buy $14K watches aren't the type to care.

I'm surprised they make it that expensive, though. There's no real intrinsic value there. the 14K gold isn't worth $16500. The watch itself is clearly worth less than $400. There's not a lot of effort in bringing the two together, except a different manufacturing flow. Again, clearly not the delta.

It seems like a marketing play to see exactly how much they can extract from people with more money than sense.

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p.s. what's this wierdness about using the camera to pair your watch to the phone?

Isn't there a standard bluetooth pairing mechanism out there? Why do this silliness?
 
laurim said:
I guess I don't know what point you are trying to make. This is MAC rumors. Are you surprised mostly people who are pro-Apple would be here? Do you have an issue with a specific post I may have made on a Microsoft thread? I do happen to use Microsoft/Google/Samsung products occasionally so would have legitimate opinions about my own experiences. Have I called anyone a "sheep" or any other childish name for using non-Apple products? No. I may have pointed out that calling people who choose the LESS common product a "sheep" makes no sense and the opposite of what a sheep would be defined as but, whatever. The "insecure" people are the ones who call people names, repeat lies about Apple and Apple products, make negative comments about products they've never used as if they have used them, etc. I welcome hearing negative feedback from people who have ACTUALLY used an Apple product to get their perspective. Everything else is just blather. You know full well there are people on here who just hate Apple and want to make people angry. I don't know what kind of fetish that is but it's annoying and not a constructive use of our time. But, hey, if people feel great to have the opportunity to brag about the expensive watch they will be using instead of the AppleWatch, good for them.zzzz
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I don't disagree with your post. I was not targeting you with my response. I also do think some people are misjudged as to their motivations.

originally you wrote, "I enjoy the way Apple makes products that make people with OTHER products insecure enough to need to bash them (and call people who like them names). It's awesome, lol."

My only point was that the same is true for some posters on here. That their comments about other manufacturers comes off as indication they are insecure because of the way the gut-react or bring up competition in threads that have nothing to do with the competition just to make themselves get an internet high five.

All rather silly.
 
wxman2003 said:
What some goofy colored watch bands. Makes them look like kiddie watches you find in a cereal box. No professional would be caught dead in one of those.
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Space Grey and black would work...

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I'll try a Sport at $349 and see how it fits into my life, whether I appreciate what it does for me, Apple Pay, fitness, phone in pocket/bag etc... Laying out $1000(s) on the others for looks alone just seems risky and unnecessary... Test drive it at a relatively cheap $349 and look to Gen 2 if it delivers. Yeah I know some people will say $349 is not cheap... but we all have different situations; for me that (just) works.

The concept of a 'trade-in' or credit program is seriously 'interesting' - doubt it'll fly for the low-enders though.:)
 
samcraig said:
I don't disagree with your post. I was not targeting you with my response. I also do think some people are misjudged as to their motivations.

originally you wrote, "I enjoy the way Apple makes products that make people with OTHER products insecure enough to need to bash them (and call people who like them names). It's awesome, lol."

My only point was that the same is true for some posters on here. That their comments about other manufacturers comes off as indication they are insecure because of the way the gut-react or bring up competition in threads that have nothing to do with the competition just to make themselves get an internet high five.

All rather silly.
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It IS silly. I do contend, however, that I witness far few Apple people trolling non-Apple articles in the places I visit, as evidenced by the general lack of comments on articles about non-Apple products. If Apple people WERE that sort, they could have a field day filling up those articles with slams on that product with no one to dispute them. But they don't. You might witness things differently in places I don't go.

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Schnort said:
p.s. what's this wierdness about using the camera to pair your watch to the phone?

Isn't there a standard bluetooth pairing mechanism out there? Why do this silliness?
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Are you talking about being able to trigger the camera on the phone with the watch? Seems like a handy feature to me, especially people using the iPhone to make movies and want to be in the movie or doing a solo.
 
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