Apple Watch Has 8GB of Storage, Limited to 2GB for Music and 75MB for Photos

[MagnusVonMagnum]

Why would someone take an iPhone on their run?

You never know when you might need a phone (particularly for emergencies). Frankly, I see little point to this device if it requires an iPhone to be useful. To me, the whole point of having a watch would be it's smaller and on my wrist instead of having to fish out the phone out of my pocket all the time (although I personally find watches uncomfortable over long periods of time and rarely wear them anymore so putting up with pulling out an iPod or iPhone seems preferable to some extent for that reason).

I think until they can make this device fully capable on its own without an iPhone, it's going to be very limited niche device. I mean what can it do that an iPhone cannot do? Look pretty on your wrist? There are better looking watches for that. I simply don't get it and unless other people do, I don't see what market this is meant for (people who have everything and still want more, I suppose). Devices should have clearly defined functions and other than telling time and being slightly faster to look at than pulling a phone out of one's pocket , it seems utterly utterly pointless and merely an alternative to an iPhone, yet by REQUIRING ONE, it completely defeats the point, IMO. I suppose it would be useful in business meetings to read text messages and other data without being obvious that you're not paying attention to the boss, but that just makes it yet another potentially dangerous distraction, both at work and in cars and everywhere else.

I'm sure they'll sell a bundle of them anyway. Apple seems to be to be a status item in some circles (why else would anyone even consider shelling out $10k for a diamond encrusted one with still only 8GB memory on it that will totally outdated in 9 months time??? For the millionaire/billionaire who has everything I suppose.)

 

[Keirasplace]

In the promo clip with the model running the marathon, she had her iPhone in an arm band whilst running. I think it's pretty popular! I would like to be able to leave the phone behind though.

You can; the watch plays music on bluetooth. But, you don't have too. Running with the phone, I'd need a strap to keep it in my hands.

 

[Javi721]

I agree, but that is fashion exactly right? Form over function? It's not like a Prada bag holds things better than Jansport.

Wrong comparison. You are comparing bmw or mercedes to gm cheapest line.

Another thing is that listening trough bluetooth will kill battery in an hour. My smartphone cannot last all day with wi-fi and cell signal on. Now you expect miracles from a tiny watch??? Good luck apple.

 

[ksuyen]

Good heavens.

Was this what is was like when the iPod, iPhone and iPad were introduced?

Complaint after bitch after whine after ...

Anyone who thinks Apple is doomed due to this new watch and its pricing, I will be happy to buy your shares of Apple stock for .50 on the dollar.

Yup, history is repeating. As I said, those who complains and whines now will end up with at least 2 watches this year. Just watch. Pun intended.

As for my 2 cents, the general complaints evolve around the watch is it being useless without an iPhone, which is not entirely true if you watch the keynote and from Apple own website. The key word here is "useless". I will paraphrase: Apple Watch works without iPhone. Will Apple Watch works without iPhone? Again, I will answer for those thick headed: Apple Watch works without iPhone. No but or if.

An entirely different argument can be made if you want Apple Watch to be "more" useful. Then, yes, you need an iPhone. AND I don't see anything wrong with that either.

 

[skyhawkmatthew]

W
Another thing is that listening trough bluetooth will kill battery in an hour.

Apple says 6.5 hours
https://www.apple.com/watch/battery.html

 

[sulpfiction]

Being and Audiophile has nothing to do with it. There's only 1 question, do you like to sound. I don't like beats sound. They have got better, but for me still waaaaay to much bass emphasis.

most true audiophiles think beats are crap. But I think they sound great for wireless headphones. But then again I'm not an audiophile.

Most people don't know what good sound really sounds like.

 

[Andrei90]

My understanding is that if the gym has a wifi you can leave the iPhone in the locker while you go exercise with just a watch and nothing else. Please correct me if I am wrong.

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Do some reverse thinking. 8GB on your watch could potentially mean 8GB of free space on your iPhone. You could put your workout/commute playlist on the watch and 8GB extra of Apps on your iPhone. Of course, it all depends on the user.

The watch doesn't pair with the iPhone via WiFi, it uses Bluetooth so you wouldn't be able to leave your phone in the locker.

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Unfortunately, if Apple released a flying car there would be a lot of complaining on here. But that's my whole point: people didn't realize just how much the idea of the modern-day smartphone would revolutionize the way they communicated and received information, just like most posters in this thread apparently feel about the Apple Watch today. But in three years, they will understand.

I'm saving the link to my statement above and I will re-surface it in three years. Not in an effort to say I told you so, but simply to show folks that sometimes it's hard to understand what it is you need, when you don't even know that you need it yet. That is where Apple really shines: they are pushing us towards the future...

Bryan

But the Apple Watch doesn't offer any new groundbreaking technology like the iPhone did. If the Apple Watch wouldn't need the iPhone to function then yes, I would agree with you, but that's not the case. Maybe second gen though...

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No it was criticized and heavily. Everyone loved the multi-touch interface but it lacked a lot of key functionality on Gen 1. It had Edge not 3G, no cut and paste, no MMS, no ability to download apps, nasty keyboard that took a lot of getting used to, slow web browser that wouldn’t show flash (understandably so) but left large vacant blocks on webpages.

People could see it had a future but it was going to take one or two generations to take off. They sold hardly any at the $500 price point until it was lowered to $399 with contract. iPhone 3G and 4 was probably where it really took off. Apps gave the iPhone its true lease of life.

Its not far off where the Watch is at now except it can download apps which will save it.

Yeah but even with those limitations every one was aware of how ground breaking the iPhone was, it introduced multi touch to the masses! The point is that the Apple Watch doesn't offer anything new, it's just an Apple version of the smart watches that are on the market today.

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But you have to get all music from iPhone to Apple Watch anyway and why waste the battery and require iPhone to be nearby when you can just store locally?

Exactly, why waste the Aplpe Watch battery if I'm gonna have my iPhone with me which has all of my music anyway?

 

[sero]

All they had to do was increases the storage and add bluetooth to the old nano that people were using as a watch.. and it would have been perfect. Several years later and this is what we get...

 

[Andrei90]

All they had to do was increases the storage and add bluetooth to the old nano that people were using as a watch.. and it would have been perfect. Several years later and this is what we get...

LMAO, you are completely right, and it was also better looking and had a longer battery life.

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Yup, history is repeating. As I said, those who complains and whines now will end up with at least 2 watches this year. Just watch. Pun intended.

As for my 2 cents, the general complaints evolve around the watch is it being useless without an iPhone, which is not entirely true if you watch the keynote and from Apple own website. The key word here is "useless". I will paraphrase: Apple Watch works without iPhone. Will Apple Watch works without iPhone? Again, I will answer for those thick headed: Apple Watch works without iPhone. No but or if.

An entirely different argument can be made if you want Apple Watch to be "more" useful. Then, yes, you need an iPhone. AND I don't see anything wrong with that either.

I don't think Apple is doomed because of the watch, I do think that Apple is doomed because they changed their business model, they're no longer a tech company, they're a luxury company wich happens to make mobile devices.

 

[wikiverse]

Yeah, not good. Not really any decent bluetooth headphones around yet.

Also, another f---ing thing to charge.

 

[Andrei90]

Yup, history is repeating. As I said, those who complains and whines now will end up with at least 2 watches this year. Just watch. Pun intended.

As for my 2 cents, the general complaints evolve around the watch is it being useless without an iPhone, which is not entirely true if you watch the keynote and from Apple own website. The key word here is "useless". I will paraphrase: Apple Watch works without iPhone. Will Apple Watch works without iPhone? Again, I will answer for those thick headed: Apple Watch works without iPhone. No but or if.

An entirely different argument can be made if you want Apple Watch to be "more" useful. Then, yes, you need an iPhone. AND I don't see anything wrong with that either.

Sure, the Apple Watch works without the iPhone but it doesn't fully works.

 

[dexterbell]

In your opinion.

I don't like the sound from either of these two brands. Beats have got better, but still far to much emphasis on the bass. The Bose soundlink, though better sounding than Beats are on ear headphones, not good for running.

Bose Soundlink has both an on ear and around the ear as well. Not to mention some nice BT headphones from Sony, Plantronics, LG and HK. As I said, you haven't looked around much.

 

[ksuyen]

Sure, the Apple Watch works without the iPhone but it doesn't fully works.

but

 

[Attonine]

Bose Soundlink has both an on ear and around the ear as well. Not to mention some nice BT headphones from Sony, Plantronics, LG and HK. As I said, you haven't looked around much.

I've looked around plenty.

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most true audiophiles think beats are crap. But I think they sound great for wireless headphones. But then again I'm not an audiophile.

Most people don't know what good sound really sounds like.

Good sound is the sound you like.

 

[technosix]

Apple has become so big, so wealthy and well known it doesn't matter what the specs are on this watch. Nor does it matter how many they sell.

This is the flavor of the month presently, but it won't make a huge difference on Apple's bottom line even if it sells in rather large numbers.

The iPhone has the crown within Apple's lineup as the top seller by a very wide margin, a fact that's going to remain steady for some time.

Should the Watch meet with more scepticism and lower sales than Apple's secret internal projections that won't matter either. Apple can deal with any eventuality when it comes to the Watch. At best it's only another product to boast about.

 

[AppleScruff1]

Apple has become so big, so wealthy and well known it doesn't matter what the specs are on this watch. Nor does it matter how many they sell.

This is the flavor of the month presently, but it won't make a huge difference on Apple's bottom line even if it sells in rather large numbers.

The iPhone has the crown within Apple's lineup as the top seller by a very wide margin, a fact that's going to remain steady for some time.

Should the Watch meet with more scepticism and lower sales than Apple's secret internal projections that won't matter either. Apple can deal with any eventuality when it comes to the Watch. At best it's only another product to boast about.

And it could quietly go the way of the 5C if it doesn't meet sales expectations.

 

[mtneer]

Since anyone who has an iPhone has it with them all the time, your comment makes no sense.

Actually limiting the prospective market for the Apple Watch to those who have an iPhone - and requiring them to have it on person all the time; seems to make very little sense.

 

[Pilgrim1099]

Actually limiting the prospective market for the Apple Watch to those who have an iPhone - and requiring them to have it on person all the time; seems to make very little sense.

Bingo.
That's another flaw on Apple's part. In fact if a prospect wants to buy a new watch, never having owned an iPhone and is told that the latter is required, then more money has to be spent.

Even worse, what happens if the new iPhone the customer wants appears to be out of stock during the purchase of the watch? Low supplies of new iPhones happen every year upon release.

 

[karlwig]

The stainless steel Watch model should have at least 16GB and the gold Edition model should have at least 512GB because money.

It's ridiculous that the cheapest standard Apple Watch is a whole 200 dollars more expensive than the Sport edition.

Seriously, you get sapphire and stainless steal. That's it.

Apple are marketing these for all it's worth, like it's such a luxury thing. Meanwhile, in the watch industry, steel and sapphire glass is completely standard even for very cheap watches in the 100-200 dollar segment. Nothing special about it, and nothing to warrant such a big price hike.

The Sport Edition is the only Apple Watch that can even resemble value for money.

 

[s2mikey]

You never know when you might need a phone (particularly for emergencies). Frankly, I see little point to this device if it requires an iPhone to be useful. To me, the whole point of having a watch would be it's smaller and on my wrist instead of having to fish out the phone out of my pocket all the time (although I personally find watches uncomfortable over long periods of time and rarely wear them anymore so putting up with pulling out an iPod or iPhone seems preferable to some extent for that reason).

I think until they can make this device fully capable on its own without an iPhone, it's going to be very limited niche device. I mean what can it do that an iPhone cannot do? Look pretty on your wrist? There are better looking watches for that. I simply don't get it and unless other people do, I don't see what market this is meant for (people who have everything and still want more, I suppose). Devices should have clearly defined functions and other than telling time and being slightly faster to look at than pulling a phone out of one's pocket , it seems utterly utterly pointless and merely an alternative to an iPhone, yet by REQUIRING ONE, it completely defeats the point, IMO. I suppose it would be useful in business meetings to read text messages and other data without being obvious that you're not paying attention to the boss, but that just makes it yet another potentially dangerous distraction, both at work and in cars and everywhere else.

I'm sure they'll sell a bundle of them anyway. Apple seems to be to be a status item in some circles (why else would anyone even consider shelling out $10k for a diamond encrusted one with still only 8GB memory on it that will totally outdated in 9 months time??? For the millionaire/billionaire who has everything I suppose.)

Well said. I don't see how this watch fits into daily use scenarios whatsoever. For photos? How the hell do you show people photos on a tiny watch screen? How awkward? The music I suppose has some merit but where is the sound coming from? Wireless headphones, I suppose but even so.... WTF Is the point of this thing?

As for a status symbol? Gimme a break. What high roller would want to show up at the big hangout when everyone else is wearing Rolexes, Tag Heuers, Patek-Phillipes, etc, wearing a toy watch? I'll tell ya who: the one that wants to scream "Look at me, I'm a DORK". A rich dork, but still a dork.

Please.

 

[technosix]

And it could quietly go the way of the 5C if it doesn't meet sales expectations.

Initially I thought the very same thing, and you may very well be predicting the precise outcome.

The reason I've changed my mind about the watches fate is based on all the "prominent outsiders" other companies and industries that Apple has pitched the watch to.

Not too much unlike the Japanese that will go to great lengths to save face, Apple can adjust production and control public perception while keeping the watch alive. Saving the potentially embarrassing outcome.

Yet in the event sales collapse so low Apple cannot hide the truth, then and only then do I envision them throwing in the towel.

 

[mtneer]

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As for a status symbol? Gimme a break. What high roller would want to show up at the big hangout when everyone else is wearing Rolexes, Tag Heuers, Patek-Phillipes, etc, wearing a toy watch? I'll tell ya who: the one that wants to scream "Look at me, I'm a DORK". A rich dork, but still a dork.

Please.

A lot of rich people may not be suave and sophisticated. There are people with completely gold-plated SUV's running around Dubai and such places. All Apple needs is to grab a few of that nouveau rich market and they will be good.

 

[karlwig]

The top of the line $373,000 Rolex has the same tech specs as a $32,000 model with the same screen size.

I have no idea where you got that idea. Almost all the super-expensive watches do indeed have much better "tech specs" than cheaper counterparts.

I'm guessing you're thinking about build quality, but they are also much better at timekeeping (comparing mechanical watches) which is indeed a tech spec (the only "function" for traditional watches besides showing date, usually).

For example, cheap mechanical watches use unreliable movements, often from China. More expensive watches (Omega/Breitling/Frederique Constant etc) use reliable Swiss movements.

The even more expensive watches (Rolex, Patek Phillipe) use in-house movements that are extremely precise and expensive to make.

The only differentiation between Apple Watch Edition and the Standard/Sport Edition is the gold.

 

[AppleScruff1]

Initially I thought the very same thing, and you may very well be predicting the precise outcome.

The reason I've changed my mind about the watches fate is based on all the "prominent outsiders" other companies and industries that Apple has pitched the watch to.

Not too much unlike the Japanese that will go to great lengths to save face, Apple can adjust production and control public perception while keeping the watch alive. Saving the potentially embarrassing outcome.

Yet in the event sales collapse so low Apple cannot hide the truth, then and only then do I envision them throwing in the towel.

They could just adjust production to a lower level too if the demand isn't as great as expected and see how it goes for a while. The 5C may very well go away in the fall when the 6S is released. I'll be surprised if they make a 6C.

I think the watch will sell well initially. I think there will be a supply problem as usual, whether real or planned. There may be a big initial demand, and it would be good marketing if there is a shortage for a few months to keep people interested. But how will it sell after a year or two? Will sales peak quickly and then drop off? How often will it be updated? Another key point. It will be interesting to see what happens.

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It's ridiculous that the cheapest standard Apple Watch is a whole 200 dollars more expensive than the Sport edition.

Seriously, you get sapphire and stainless steal. That's it.

Apple are marketing these for all it's worth, like it's such a luxury thing. Meanwhile, in the watch industry, steel and sapphire glass is completely standard even for very cheap watches in the 100-200 dollar segment. Nothing special about it, and nothing to warrant such a big price hike.

The Sport Edition is the only Apple Watch that can even resemble value for money.

How is this much different that Apple's other products? $100 for each bump up in storage for iPhones and iPads, $200 RAM and processor bumps on the iMacs and MB's, etc..?

 

[Michael CM1]

Bluetooth headphones are the answer to this question.

You would think so many people on an Apple board wouldn't be so clueless about Bluetooth. Also, the hilarity of headphones plugged into a watch. Why is there no headphone jack? Um, the diagnostic port is barely the size of a human hair and a headphone plug is about half as long as the watch.