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Apple Watch Launches April 24, Price Ranges From $349 to Over $10,000

paulsdenton said:
I can't believe EVERYONE doesn't want one!
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To do WHAT? Relay information from your pocket to your wrist? How geeky do you have to be to think this is innovation, or even useful?

Hell, if your geeky enough to want one of these, I would expect the tactile pleasure of reaching into your pocket would surpass the satisfaction of a Bluetooth handshake between an iPhone in your pocket and a slab of electronics on your wrist. LOL!
 
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MNJohn said:
To do WHAT? Relay information from your pocket to your wrist? How geeky to you have to be to think this is innovation? LOL!
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You must have missed the keynote! Go back and watch it! You'll see all the amazing things this will do!

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danox574 said:
I'm a little curious as to why you bought your Tag in the first place then.
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He probably didn't know it was coming! Like me, when I bought my Rolex GMT-Master in 1988! If I had only known!!
 
So, Gold is $1,200 an once.

Does that mean the gold one weighs nearly a pound?

Or is that just plain old American gouging?

How do you look someone in the face and say "I'm marking this up $10,000...because I can and because you are a rich sucker"
 
MacVidCards said:
So, Gold is $1,200 an once.

Does that mean the gold one weighs nearly a pound?

Or is that just plain old American gouging?

How do you look someone in the face and say "I'm marking this up $10,000...because I can and because you are a rich sucker"
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The average markup in higher end jewelry is a few hundred percent.
 
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My watch is the one on the right, but with a white face.
 
AppleScruff1 said:
The average markup in higher end jewelry is a few hundred percent.
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Other than price, I'm not sure this qualifies as "higher end jewelry"

And in 2 years when rubes are wearing $350 ones that can read blood sugar and pressure, who's going to want the "old gold" one that can't?

I could be wrong, but I don't see them holding value like a Patek or Rolex.

No "hand crafted by swiss craftsmen" or "good to the bottom of the Marianas Trench" type stuff here. Same inside as the cheap one.
 
MacVidCards said:
Other than price, I'm not sure this qualifies as "higher end jewelry"

And in 2 years when rubes are wearing $350 ones that can read blood sugar and pressure, who's going to want the "old gold" one that can't?

I could be wrong, but I don't see them holding value like a Patek or Rolex.

No "hand crafted by swiss craftsmen" or "good to the bottom of the Marianas Trench" type stuff here. Same inside as the cheap one.
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MNJohn said:
And the average resale fifteen minutes out the door is 50 cents on the dollar....
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I simply stated why it was priced so much higher than the actual amount of gold it contained. Resale value had nothing to do with my comment. I don't see them holding resale value either. But that 17K watch may actually cost Apple about 6K.
 
chris975d said:
Maybe regular jewelry. But not luxury ($5000 and over) watches. They keep most their value, and the well respected brands actually typically appreciate over time.
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This isn't like a high end mechanical watch. The tech will be outdated in a few years.
 
AppleScruff1 said:
This isn't like a high end mechanical watch. The tech will be outdated in a few years.
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And if you read my many posts on this subject, I've said the same thing. I'll keep my Rolexes and Tudors. This Apple thing doesn't interest me in the slightest. It doesn't prevent me from needing my phone, even at the gym. So it's borderline useless to me if I still have to keep my phone in my pocket at the gym.
 
AppleScruff1 said:
I simply stated why it was priced so much higher than the actual amount of gold it contained. Resale value had nothing to do with my comment. I don't see them holding resale value either. But that 17K watch may actually cost Apple about 6K.
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So, you think it might have a quarter pound of gold in it?

I doubt this.

Have you ever held a Krugerrand? (Or other bullion equiv) For that watch to have $6K in it, it would need to be same weight as 4 & 1/2 Oz. That would be a HEAVY watch.

Rolex et al can sell $500 of Gold for $10,000 due to mystique, and the fact that a 20 year old watch is still every bit as useful as a new one. I may very well be wrong, I just can't see any justification for that price, AT ALL.

I have a couple wealthy friends. The ones who MADE the money are notorious skin-flints. Some of the cheapest people I know. I once told one of them that I had seen a few coins in a shag carpet, within seconds a 65 year old woman was on hands and knees trying to find them. And she owns a film company that does national spots. Now, the KIDS of wealthy parents, they tend to be the "throw it out the window with both hands" types. Maybe they're the target audience. Perhaps a "Franklin Mint" edition is coming?
 
MacVidCards said:
So, you think it might have a quarter pound of gold in it?

I doubt this.

Have you ever held a Krugerrand? (Or other bullion equiv) For that watch to have $6K in it, it would need to be same weight as 4 & 1/2 Oz. That would be a HEAVY watch.

Rolex et al can sell $500 of Gold for $10,000 due to mystique, and the fact that a 20 year old watch is still every bit as useful as a new one. I may very well be wrong, I just can't see any justification for that price, AT ALL.

I have a couple wealthy friends. The ones who MADE the money are notorious skin-flints. Some of the cheapest people I know. I once told one of them that I had seen a few coins in a shag carpet, within seconds a 65 year old woman was on hands and knees trying to find them. And she owns a film company that does national spots. Now, the KIDS of wealthy parents, they tend to be the "throw it out the window with both hands" types. Maybe they're the target audience. Perhaps a "Franklin Mint" edition is coming?
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No, I don't think it will have 4oz if gold in it. The selling price is not weight x price of gold. The price is several times their actual cost of materials, labor, etc. There is a huge markup because they think this is what the market will bear, not how much the gold weighs.
 
jrswizzle said:
I thought you meant the product line itself would be dead. Not the battery.
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I took him to mean the watch itself, due to battery and maybe lack of software updates. Apple is known for purposely gimping older devices when new software updates come out. And having to charge this watch every single day is going to put a lot of charging cycles on the very small battery. I don't see it lasting through many years of usage.
 
:eek: MR was way off the mark with that one..

That's about double the 5,000 price tag.

(seemed Apple didn't get it right either)
 
Can't Wait for Gen 3 A-Watch

This launch reminds me of the iPhone...
It's interesting and has tons of potential but isn't there yet.
I didn't get an iPhone until the 3Gs and won't get one of these until it matures.
On the other hand...the new MacBook looks pretty sexy $)
One out of two isn't bad.

This just seems like a tad bit expensive for basically an iPhone accessory. It doesn't really bring anything new to the table yet besides gimmicks and some conveniences that aren't worth the price to me. Although, while on wifi (at work/home) it will be great not having to carry your iPhone on your person and still be connected!!

Needs:
significantly better battery life...perhaps a solar charging accessory
More stand alone features away from the iPhone...gps, health features, text messaging without an iPhone would be awesome....throwback to old fashioned beepers.
Oh, and this needs to work with Macs, iPad, & iPod touches also...I mean really

PS. Dissenting opinions are welcomed!! Smart people should disagree sometimes! Besides product preferences/opinions are by definition subjective!! Really smart people "get that" and if you have to trash other's subjective opinions you are a nitwit and "ain't nobody here got time for that" :D
 
If it was a one-time manufacturing run of X pieces, and designed to last 10-15 years, I could justify spending $1,000 for a watch. But since it's a throwaway device that will be depreciated in 2-3 years, no ****ing way. They can slash the price in half, and I'd consider it.

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Urban Joe said:
Needs:
significantly better battery life...perhaps a solar charging accessory
More stand alone features away from the iPhone...gps, health features, text messaging without an iPhone would be awesome....throwback to old fashioned beepers.
Oh, and this needs to work with Macs, iPad, & iPod touches also...I mean really

PS. Dissenting opinions are welcomed!! Smart people should disagree sometimes! Besides product preferences/opinions are by definition subjective!! Really smart people "get that" and if you have to trash other's subjective opinions you are a nitwit and "ain't nobody here got time for that" :D
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Good luck getting a watch to carry a cellular signal. Or bluetooth. Both need an insane amount of power to run. Fitting all of that into something that small is impossible. Unless it ran on solar.

I have a solar powered watch. It's huge. Doesn't have many features (time, triple sensor), but it's massive because of the solar cell driving it.
 
rowspaxe said:
totally misread this post until i saw the smiley at the end: first world problems
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It's a drama! Apple is producing more interesting iDevices than I can afford !!!! :D

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MNJohn said:
Approximately fifteen years ago, I purchased a Patek Phillipe 5056P watch for $16,000. The last sale at Christies', in 2011, for a 5056P was $37,000+.

What will be the auction value of a $20,000 Apple Edition watch fifteen years from now? What will be its value fifteen minutes after it exits the Apple Store?
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I think they just are different products.
Btw I can't understand the meaning of the Edition, if not to please some rich people.
 
bpeeps said:
You are not the luxury market Apple is targeting with that price. This watch is for watch collectors and Apple enthusiasts buying Audemars Piguet, Tag Heuer, Bvlgari Diagono, etc. You are not the target demo.
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It is so amazing how many people can't understand this. There's a $10,000 watch. Uh, don't buy it. Apple even created one that's $9,651 cheaper! :eek:

It's very similar to the maniacal crowing about things like the 128GB iPad, a totally tricked out Mac Pro, the price of buying every song on iTunes, etc. OK, maybe the last one I made up. But damn, people. Apple makes a bunch of products for a bunch of people. I still have zero interest in a Mac Pro because it's almost $3,000 to start with. But there are a lot of people who need something like that.

I would love one of these watches, especially if the fitness tracking works like I think it does or better. If it's the right motivational tool, then $400 or so would be a bargain. But it's hard to tell. So like I've done with every other Apple product, I'm waiting a while. If at some point they can be found starting at $299 thanks to a sale, I might be there. I got my original 8GB iPhone for $249 by waiting about 10 months and getting a refurb. OK, the 3G came out two months later at $50 cheaper, but I got to own the original one and never did like the look of the 3G with that candy-coated back.
 
I guess I'm in the minority on this forum with this (and I'm not knocking Apple), but this item just doesn't appeal to me.
For what it does it seems overpriced.
Not interested.
 
Just a theory...

But the high end $10K plus watch is likely looking at a small crowd (I say that, though my neighbor often buys/sells $15K watches biweekly with lots of people in town from business men, to youngsters wanting to show off, to cops wanting something special for their wives.) Jewelry sells, and keeps value... though for that reason alone, I really contest the Apple Watch will hold its value if the app/battery truly defines it's usability.

So... Why anyway, if there is a market to sell the pricier watch models, why not expect the iPhone 6S to come in a $25K option in September?
Why not join the ranks of Vertu, and their $22K phone?

Both the $10K plus watch, and the inclusion of a new type of keyboard, USB-C and touch sensitive trackpad in the Macbook all reek of REV A feelers to see if this stuff has a market before moving such concepts over to the iPhones and Macbook Airs/Pros.

The $69 dollar drop on the AppleTV also seems ominous. Will iOS9 drop support for the waning A5 chip? Should be an interesting six months ahead.
 
chris975d said:
Maybe regular jewelry. But not luxury ($5000 and over) watches. They keep most their value, and the well respected brands actually typically appreciate over time.
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Fine mechanical watches like Patek Phillipe and Rolex do hold their value well. "Fashion" watches, even expensive ones, not so much.
 
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