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Apple Watch Now Available From B&H Photo

$150 to $200 is more realistic at this stage for the base model. Who in their right mind would pay retail for a stainless steel model at this point?
I have a left over LG G watch that works great with my iPhone 6S. I only paid $80 and it came with a $50 Google play credit during Black Friday last year. I only want to interact with the watch for a few seconds. Any longer I'd rather whip out the phone.
With Black Friday next month I'm expecting more deals on maybe a round watch this time that would work just fine with my iPhone.
 
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cdm283813 said:
$150 to $200 is more realistic at this stage for the base model. Who in their right mind would pay retail for a stainless steel model at this point?
I have a left over LG G watch that works great with my iPhone 6S. I only paid $80 and it came with a $50 Google play credit during Black Friday last year. I only want to interact with the watch for a few seconds. Any longer I'd rather whip out the phone.
With Black Friday next month I'm expecting more deals on maybe a round watch this time that would work just fine with my iPhone.
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It won't ever be near that price, EVER : bank on it.
 
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nyc2015 said:
Beware of B&H. There was just a bie


Because B&H has to answer to very serious allegations that they treat their female and non-Satmar employees like crap and fosters a dangerous work environment in the warehouse.
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I cannot base all my purchase decisions on the basis of disgruntled employee allegations. If there's an investigation where they're found guilty of something, we'll talk.

This isn't an issue exclusive to B & H. This is a US employer attitude problem. This is a capitalism problem.

Do you ever shop Amazon? There are similar workplace warehouse employee issues with them. Look, I'm not excusing this. However, poor treatment of employees will continue so long as we have a lax employee protection attitude in the US. This will continue so long as we allow capitalists to dictate policies in the work place. This will continue so long as we allow capitalists to choose who our political leaders are. This will continue as long as unions are marginalized.

The US at one time had a very strong regulatory environment for issues relating to employment and environmental protection. That's been steadily chipped away at for 35 years.

To single out B & H for playing by the rules of capitalism as practiced in the US is no different than singling out Apple for how Foxconn employees in China are treated. It's hypocritical and misses the larger picture entirely.
 
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mrxak said:
Heh, that's a little weird, but I guess B&H Photo does sell a fair bit of Apple gear, and has in the past. For those unfamiliar with B&H, they are a fantastic NYC photography equipment store. They have excellent prices and shipping on camera stuff (better than Amazon usually) and I've gotten a tripod and several lenses from them over the years ordering online. I've been meaning to stop in there the next time I get to NYC, but I don't think they'd be my first choice to get an Apple Watch at.
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mrxak said:
Heh, that's a little weird, but I guess B&H Photo does sell a fair bit of Apple gear, and has in the past. For those unfamiliar with B&H, they are a fantastic NYC photography equipment store. They have excellent prices and shipping on camera stuff (better than Amazon usually) and I've gotten a tripod and several lenses from them over the years ordering online. I've been meaning to stop in there the next time I get to NYC, but I don't think they'd be my first choice to get an Apple Watch at.
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Yep, BH is fantastic....
 
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Mums said:
Agreed. However, I suspect it is the money grubbers / social engineers behind Tim Cook ....
who are pulling the strings -- and his strings as well.
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You know, honest to God, I never even considered that.
If that's even remotely true, there needs to be a upheaval at Apple.
Soon.
Like now.
 
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doctor-don said:
these are the accounts of warehouse workers in the Brooklyn Navy Yard–not at the superstore located at 34th and 9th in Manhattan’s Hell’s Kitchen.

The article explains that undocumented workers were receiving inhumane treatment
as Florencio Salgado said “They treat us as if we were animals.”
And we are to believe these reports?
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Why shouldn't we?
Just because they're undocced and are here to try & make better lives for
themselves & their families means they're liars?

Ask yourself this-which is the more likely scenario:
1] A company WITH A LONG HISTORY of treating certain workers crappily, doing so yet again.
2] Off-the-book workers making up stories out of thin air.

They had similiar lawsuits filed by Latino-Americans & women.
Both cases settled out of court.
When do you settle in a baseless lawsuit ....
Where there's smoke, there's fire, my friend.
 
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Mums said:
If B&H is selling them it means that Apple is liquidating them. All these retail outlets are likely getting the Apple Watches at very low wholesale prices. I think it's obvious that Apple seriously over-manufactured the Apple Watch and is now in damage control mode. The Apple Watch was not just a flop, but a debacle!
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You are well informed indeed...

Fact is within the inner circles of large mass market e-tailers like B&H, a very old, savvy yet particularly modern sales outlet, they held out until Apple had no choice but to acquiesce.

I choose to avoid calling the watch a flop simply because as we're witnessing Apples sheer influence and raw power over certain consumers is awe inspiring. An advantage not seen from any other company on the world stage.

Apple starts the rumor, manages it like a world class athlete manages his energy, they launch to massive world wide attention, brag about sales, then spend hundreds of millions in a barrage of advertising no other company could match.

Steve Jobs has passed on, but his true legacy as I see it wasn't as a visionary even though he took credit for that. Steve Jobs was the worlds best Salesman. The "system" he put in place, lives on and continues to serve Apple very well.
 
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doctor-don said:
these are the accounts of warehouse workers in the Brooklyn Navy Yard–not at the superstore located at 34th and 9th in Manhattan’s Hell’s Kitchen.

The article explains that undocumented workers were receiving inhumane treatment as Florencio Salgado said “They treat us as if we were animals.”

And we are to believe these reports?
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Can we take the social justice stuff someplace else? It's not remotely related to the topic at hand.
 
nyc2015 said:
Maybe honest to you, but not to many of their employees. B&H has had to settle with women and Latinos for openly discriminating against them in employment and now the vast majority of their warehouse workers are joining together to decry the unsafe working conditions there.
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Wow. I read the article and am NOT impressed with it's veracity. I'll absolutely continue to order from B&H. And this is absolutely the wrong place for you to be bringing this up.
 
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Ries said:
2015 has been a disappointment on the Apple front for me.

Apple Watch, meh, I work in an company with hundreds of engineers, not one Apple Watch to be seen. The watch has been in stock since it launched in my country.

Was going for a iPad Air 3, that didn't happen.

The enlarged iPad "pro", got not use for that, considering how much I use the iPad Air, it is not worth the money. The iPad Air is properly going to behind one year in upgrades as the iPad Pro is the new top line, kind of a big turn off for the Air models.

Was hoping for the skylake macbook pro, but that is out of the question in 2015 now. Seeing the iMac and they still make 16GB iPhones, I get a bad feeling about the skylake macbook pro, they are properly going to **** it up trying to upsell it or gimp it so they have something for the next update.

Spotify is way better than Apple music.

My grandma is faster than the new Macbook and would it hurt them to have given it two USB-C ports?

I usually don't buy the iPhone S versions, but I am excited for the Apple Upgrade Plan if the price is right. Who knows if that ever is going to be launched in my country, maybe in the year 2138.

Why does the airport extreme AC still have a fan? That whats keeping me from upgrading my N version, I am not interested in something constantly buzzing in the corner of my living room.

The only thing they have going for me is the Apple TV and only because providers can update their streaming apps themselves as needed.
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Are you going through anxiety attack? If don't like how apple providing these things, you can go to pc laptop as an alternative. There are better laptops than rMBPs in spec wise. If you need that os x...then...it's something everyone has to put up with.
 
Mums said:
If B&H is selling them it means that Apple is liquidating them. All these retail outlets are likely getting the Apple Watches at very low wholesale prices. I think it's obvious that Apple seriously over-manufactured the Apple Watch and is now in damage control mode. The Apple Watch was not just a flop, but a debacle!
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Not at all. B&H is my go to for audio equipment. Others for camera equipment. That is, when we already know what we want. No Sales Tax outside NY, with free shipping. Basically they are a quality electronics discount operation for the rest of the US. And that's what this is -- a place for people to order the Watch with the rest of their products when people know exactly what they want already. I doubt they expect to be a primary supplier of Watches in their NYC store/showroom.

So this move makes sense to me. Target much less so, especially since it's already available at Best Buy, Sprint & T-Mobile, to view. Offering it to more retailers online turns the brick and mortar stores into showrooms for people in areas that don't have access to the Apple Stores, and undercuts everybody. Frankly I don't know why Target would agree to sell it considering how much more expensive it is than any other watch they sell retail, and the greater need for security due to it's size and cost. And as a showroom, Target is surely going to be the worst experience any potential customer could ever have -- bad enough to turn someone off the watch I'd wager.
 
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Mums said:
If B&H is selling them it means that Apple is liquidating them. All these retail outlets are likely getting the Apple Watches at very low wholesale prices. I think it's obvious that Apple seriously over-manufactured the Apple Watch and is now in damage control mode. The Apple Watch was not just a flop, but a debacle!
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Apple Watch 1.0 may or may not be a flop. We don't know what sales are, nor do we know what expectations were. But ever-increasing retail presence among existing Apple partners is not evidence of failure.

If the ever-increasing retail presence was more like Apple Watches in bargain bins at the corner drug store, then I'd be inclined to agree with your theory. But that's not what we are seeing. All of these places so far (Target, Best Buy, B&H) also sell iPods, iPhones, and iPads, and some sell Macs too. They didn't used to sell these things, so when iPhone, iPad, Macs, etc. increased their retail presence at these stores, did you think those were doomed too?

In particular, Best Buy did a trial run in a limited number of stores to see how it would go. Months later, the trial ended and they decided to put Apple Watches in all BB locations. This doesn't make any sense if the Apple Watch was a failure. BB would be using up valuable retail space in all their stores for something that didn't sell during the trial?

Granted, it's possible. In a desperate move, Apple could be giving a sweetheart deal on wholesale pricing to the retailers such that the retailers would be making a huge profit on the watches even with low sales volume. But we don't have any evidence of that.

Anyway, my point is that retail expansion alone is not proof of failure. Wildly successful products also have ever increasing retail presence.
 
cdm283813 said:
Got my first iPhone that I'm keeping until at least iPhone 7. Been a Android fanboi for years and while I do still love "pure" Android I wanted a change up.
But where is version 2? The watch is over a year old now (when it was announced). No way I'm shelling $400 for old tech.
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If you are willing to change from preferred brand to another, you are not a fanboy. You are an objective human being. ;-)

I would have said the same thing if you had changed from Apple to Android.
 
Ries said:
2015 has been a disappointment on the Apple front for me.

Apple Watch, meh, I work in an company with hundreds of engineers, not one Apple Watch to be seen. The watch has been in stock since it launched in my country.
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This is a great year for apple. The watch is great. I work with dozens of professions with advanced degrees. Many have the watch. The iPhone 6s. The iMac. And on and on.
 
pat500000 said:
Are you going through anxiety attack? If don't like how apple providing these things, you can go to pc laptop as an alternative. There are better laptops than rMBPs in spec wise. If you need that os x...then...it's something everyone has to put up with.
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Even though I HATE windows and swore I would never buy a windows computer for my personal use, the new Surface laptop looks good. Who knows what it will be like when it actually comes out..

I love OSX so I don't think I would jump because MS finally fixed there operating system.. but it's tempting.. and throw in Hololens in the mix (again, who knows what Hololens will be like when comes out.. but it looks awesome!)
 
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