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there Is so little watch software and now Apple wants to over complicate it by having extra buttons on a watch that will make up a small segment of the market. Not very Apple tbh. adding an extra button on all watches I might understand. but then my S3 has a button which has been pressed maybe three times in 5 years. I never use the longer button. One button and the screen does everything.
 
there Is so little watch software and now Apple wants to over complicate it by having extra buttons on a watch that will make up a small segment of the market. Not very Apple tbh. adding an extra button on all watches I might understand. but then my S3 has a button which has been pressed maybe three times in 5 years. I never use the longer button. One button and the screen does everything.

You've obviously never tried using the screen in the pool/with sweaty fingers/in the rain running a mountain marathon. If you haven't then this watch isn't for you. From first hand experience, it sucks. The Apple Watch needs a button to "select" a menu option.
 
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there Is so little watch software and now Apple wants to over complicate it by having extra buttons on a watch that will make up a small segment of the market. Not very Apple tbh. adding an extra button on all watches I might understand. but then my S3 has a button which has been pressed maybe three times in 5 years. I never use the longer button. One button and the screen does everything.

The regular watch won’t have an extra button so feel free to continue using that model and others who need it can use the new model.
 
You've obviously never tried using the screen in the pool/with sweaty fingers/in the rain running a mountain marathon. If you haven't then this watch isn't for you. From first hand experience, it sucks. The Apple Watch needs a button to "select" a menu option.


but given the apathy among app developers for apple watch, and this being such a small segment of apple watch users, are developers going to bother to rewrite software to give a unique experience to a minority of users? As you say, if there was actually a demand for it, then it would be across the range, lots of people are going to be using the screen in the pool but wont have shelled out for an apple watch pro.

if there was really a demand for this button to 'select a menu option' then apple at any stage could have allowed the present side button to be configerable. i only use it for apple pay, but tbh if they'd put double tap on crown for apple pay it would be exactly the same. Shuffle apple pay to double tap crown, make the dock a double tap on the side button for the (for me) useless dock, and there you have, a button spare for whatever this new button does.

my point is less about whether a button could be useful (not for me, i could happily have a button less if you moved apple pay) but whether having differnet amounts of buttons on what is likely to be a small segment of the market, especially given that whilst there has been a decent increase in the number of AW users, there's a noticeable decrease in interest from developers with hardly any new apps and lots of existing apps being binned.
 
It’s obvious the industrial design was going to fall sometime, you just can’t replace Jony Ive like that. You can support him or not, but the guy been an all star industrial designer is a fact. The fall in the design was evident in the new MacBook Pro, it looks outdated, chunkier, heavier, the keyboard looks cheap. Compare that to the new MacBook Air, the MacBook Pro hurts your eyes!
 
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but given the apathy among app developers for apple watch, and this being such a small segment of apple watch users, are developers going to bother to rewrite software to give a unique experience to a minority of users? As you say, if there was actually a demand for it, then it would be across the range, lots of people are going to be using the screen in the pool but wont have shelled out for an apple watch pro.

if there was really a demand for this button to 'select a menu option' then apple at any stage could have allowed the present side button to be configerable. i only use it for apple pay, but tbh if they'd put double tap on crown for apple pay it would be exactly the same. Shuffle apple pay to double tap crown, make the dock a double tap on the side button for the (for me) useless dock, and there you have, a button spare for whatever this new button does.

my point is less about whether a button could be useful (not for me, i could happily have a button less if you moved apple pay) but whether having differnet amounts of buttons on what is likely to be a small segment of the market, especially given that whilst there has been a decent increase in the number of AW users, there's a noticeable decrease in interest from developers with hardly any new apps and lots of existing apps being binned.
You don't have to buy it. It's obviously not designed for you so just buy a standard AW.
Competing with Garmin is the only way they will dominate all segments of the wearables market. Apple is currently top overall but Garmin is top of the >$500 segment and that is because of the features they provide. It's obvious the "luxury" route hasn't worked for Apple in leading the top end. They need to compete with Garmin's features if they want total market dominance.
 
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You don't have to buy it. It's obviously not designed for you so just buy a standard AW.
Competing with Garmin is the only way they will dominate all segments of the wearables market. Apple is currently top overall but Garmin is top of the >$500 segment and that is because of the features they provide. It's obvious the "luxury" route hasn't worked for Apple in leading the top end. They need to compete with Garmin's features if they want total market dominance.

you are missing my point but ive made it twice so ill leave it there.

agree with you on the second part and i think apple can and will continue to add features. just not convinced that having a button on the minority of models is the way forward. but anyway, roll on tomorrow.
 
It is interesting that Apple didn't release the latest watchOS 9 beta alongside iOS' beta last week. There could indeed be Pro-only features in it that will become known at the event tomorrow.
 
How about when you set the messages on the watch to mirror the iphone, it deletes from the watch memory when you delete the messages on the iphone rather than storing them forever. I have quite a few and having to delete them one by one is a royal pain. I get a lot of messages daily.
 
That huge bump where the crown is looks terrible why is it there, it makes the watch look so bad, never in the history of having these watches has the crown been damaged

Apple’s latest Series 7 watch advert makes this pointless.

In the ad the watch is being rubbed into gravel and dirt. Also the watch is being smashed into walls at speed and making a very forceful impact.

If it’s as durable as they make out this ‘Pro’ version is a money grab and nothing more.
 
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