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Now I want to do this too. To be honest, I don't want to know about anything most of the time unless it's an "emergency", and having my phone vibrate at the slightest Facebook Like is just so wrong.

You could also tame your notifications so Facebook doesn't bother you as often. Apple's notification system is rather robust, and it allows you to decide when and how various apps notify you.
 
I am kind of surprised they don't have a bunch of different timefaces. A lot of watch people really like to switch watches because of the faces. I wonder if they will be available as apps.
 
True, the Apple Watch won't be for everyone. Some, like me, will buy it on day 1 and love it from the start. Others will wait for v2. And some will either stay away, buy a competitor, or buy one to complement their existing watches. None of that is news for anyone.

The most interesting question is - how many people will love their Apple Watch even more once they get to use all the apps and games, and how many people will convert from not wanting to wanting to buy a watch once they see a handful of must-have apps released?
 
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The current  Watch fits my needs perfectly since I usually only use the stock apps. Each one on the app is an addition to it. The watch is more of a proxy for your notifications and Health information. It seems some tend to compare it to the capabilities of the iPhone it's intended to be companioning. From that perspective, Apple has done a great job
 
I think you mean - you can get other watches that look as good (maybe better, maybe less) for $400 and all will still be working in 2-3 years - including the Apple Watch - My daughter still uses an Iphone 4 so it isn't obsolete. Conjecture to say the watch will be obsolete in 2-3 years.

I hate to break this to you, but iOS 8 does not support iPhone 4 at all. That means, by Apple's own admission, iPhone 4 is officially obsolete and is not be supported moving forward.

Apple has done this in the past with older devices with as iPhone's and iPad's, and they will continue to do it. Even though they may still work, they will not receive iOS upgrades after a certain amount of time due to hardware age and other factors.
 
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Neither your post nor the one you quotes applied logic or common sense. Conclusory statements not based on facts are, by definition, illogical. Satisfied with your conclusion, you skipped the part in the paragraph where you would actually make a reasoned argument and replaced it with a petty, ham-fisted personal attack on those who would presume to disagree. That's the thing about common sense... it's really not so common.

As to the reviews themselves, they're mixed but generally positive. Pretty much all of them cite the Apple Watch as the best smartwatch on the maket. The negatives, such as the learning curve, poor third-party apps, and slow hardware, are typical of a first-gen product in a relatively new product category.

What's most promising, though, is that in the majority of reviews the reviewer ended up loving the watch anyway, despite the fact that the negatives are much easier to put into words than the positives. To me, that says that it actually succeeded in the most important way: it altered the lifestyle of the user.

The potential for future generations of the product to offer additional sensors and software that utilizes them (be it from Apple or third-party) in a manner that enhances health and quality of life is enormous.

I dare say that it's much more exciting than, say, Apple Pay. Interestingly, the long-term success of Apple Pay is probably closely linked to that of Apple Watch, as being able to pay from the watch without having to pull anything out of your pockets or purse really increases the convenience factor of using Apple Pay rather than a credit card.

Dare I say, you sound self righteous? You're one of those people that tries to sound smarter than they really are. In light of this, I will respond to your comment in the same asinine manner you did to us.

My comment uses both logic and common sense to determine an outcome. One can disagree with my logic (which I'm sure you and many others do), but it doesn't make it illogical. What did I say that was illogical, oh great one?

The Apple Watch, while being a perfect companion for Apple Pay, will have a minor impact on Apple Pay's success or failure. The majority of people will use their phone as their primary Apple Pay device. Why? Because most people won't have an Apple Watch. Even though the Apple Watch is the best way to use Apple Pay, it is in no way linked to its success or failure. Apple Pay's success is directly linked to the number of participating vendors it obtains. A growing number of vendors will increase the usage of Apple Pay. Most Apple Watch users already have Apple Pay equipped devices, meaning that convenience is the only thing added when pairing an Apple Watch. Because of this, the Apple Watch will have a minimal impact on the overall success of Apple Pay.
 
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Looks like Quagmire got an Apple Watch to test for a few weeks.
I guess it will give your arm a work out looking at your wrist, lifting and twisting your arm frequently with the weight of the Apple Watch.

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I think the reviews are pretty GOOD for the Apple Watch, but pretty BAD for the smart watch category as a whole. All reviewers agree that, while Apple Watch is the best smart watch in the market, smart watches are still pretty much a gimmick that's trying to find its purpose.

Thus the "it's a solution trying to find its problem" quote.

Quite frankly, I agree: I'm not sure how or what exactly I'd rather do on my watch that I wouldn't prefer to do on my phone. Do I really need stock or calendar notifications on my watch if I can have them at full screen on my phone? do I really want to pay $500 for a glorified fitness band? Those are the questions that the Apple Watch need to address if it wants to fulfill a real purpose.
 
I think the reviews are pretty GOOD for the Apple Watch, but pretty BAD for the smart watch category as a whole. All reviewers agree that, while Apple Watch is the best smart watch in the market, smart watches are still pretty much a gimmick that's trying to find its purpose.

Thus the "it's a solution trying to find its problem" quote.

Quite frankly, I agree: I'm not sure how or what exactly I'd rather do on my watch that I wouldn't prefer to do on my phone. Do I really need stock or calendar notifications on my watch if I can have them at full screen on my phone? do I really want to pay $500 for a glorified fitness band? Those are the questions that the Apple Watch need to address if it wants to fulfill a real purpose.

Sometimes I feel smartwatches should have come before the smartphone, and that's why no company so far has been able to make a smartwatch really stick. That seems more like the logical progression to me.
 
Verge are really pro Apple and even they were kind of iffy on the watch. That right there should tell you something.
 
I use my phone for work too. We use e-mail and messaging for non-urgent matters and phone calls for urgent matters. Works flawlessly. I think it's not reasonable to expect people to respond to notifications all the time.


Again. Good for you. But that doesn't work for EVERYONE.
 
Apple says true native apps are coming later this year, and hopefully they'll do way more...

This is what concerns me. I've posted a similar comment already but I want to rephrase. Sure, when you first purchase a new product, you use it a lot more at first... a lot more. But with a fair number of reviews claiming the Watch just barely made it yields my concern. Let's say each of these reviewers made it to bed with no less than 20% battery life. That's still scary. Because with forthcoming apps that will allegedly do much more, and with battery capacity weakening over it's lifespan (marginally or not, it doesn't get better, that's for sure), I think it will be a bigger problem than people think. Do I feel it will be 'Apple's first major fail' type ordeal? No. But I think it's going to be a bit more serious than the typical 'it's just a big iPhone' type comments we get with each new device.
 
I am kind of surprised they don't have a bunch of different timefaces. A lot of watch people really like to switch watches because of the faces. I wonder if they will be available as apps.

That was the biggest negative on previous reviews of Android Wear - the default was way less than the Apple Watch even. Lots of money to be made with screen faces.
 
I hate to break this to you, but iOS 8 does not support iPhone 4 at all. That means, by Apple's own admission, iPhone 4 is officially obsolete and is not be supported moving forward.

Apple has done this in the past with older devices with as iPhone's and iPad's, and they will continue to do it. Even though they may still work, they will not receive iOS upgrades after a certain amount of time due to hardware age and other factors.

Ok, thank you for the post comparing the 2010 to 2015 and equaling 2-3 years. The iPhone 4 works great still today. With that logic, the iPhone 5 is obsolete this year. Yikes... You are stretching it with what is obsolete.

Is the iPhone 5 obsolete because it has now been out for 2 years 7 months... time to throw away? You are saying yes, it is obsolete. It is going for $380 on Amazon for the 16GB right now... Should everyone throw the iPhone 5 away this September when it hits 3 years and the far end of your range for the watch?

The Apple Watch being obsolete in 2-3 years is a guess... plain and simple. Can you prove it for the watch? Should we throw it away?

I'm not trying to argue with you... saying the Apple Watch WILL be obsolete in 2-3 years is a 100% guess. The iPhone 5 is still selling for $380 new and it has been out for 2 years 7 months + and it is still supported and even supports the Apple Watch.
 
This is what concerns me. I've posted a similar comment already but I want to rephrase. Sure, when you first purchase a new product, you use it a lot more at first... a lot more. But with a fair number of reviews claiming the Watch just barely made it yields my concern. Let's say each of these reviewers made it to bed with no less than 20% battery life. That's still scary. Because with forthcoming apps that will allegedly do much more, and with battery capacity weakening over it's lifespan (marginally or not, it doesn't get better, that's for sure), I think it will be a bigger problem than people think. Do I feel it will be 'Apple's first major fail' type ordeal? No. But I think it's going to be a bit more serious than the typical 'it's just a big iPhone' type comments we get with each new device.

Most reviews said one day, they barely made it using it like hell. Most had heavy to extreme use; other days they easily made it all day at 20-30%.

If you get 300 notifications per day on your watch, listens to 2h of music and have a 2h workout and use it with dozens of apps, guess what? You're barely going to make it. That's expected. You'd barely make it using your own phone...

BTW, when I got my first Iphone I killed it in 6h by constantly playing with it; guess I should have just thrown in out hey! After a the play with it constantly phase, adjusting setting phase, it easily lasted the day and even more.
 
Ok, thank you for the post comparing the 2010 to 2015 and equaling 2-3 years. The iPhone 4 works great still today. With that logic, the iPhone 5 is obsolete this year. Yikes... You are stretching it with what is obsolete.

Actually, you're doing the stretching. I'm only going by what Apple themselves say. Once they stop supporting a device with iOS, they've pretty much disowned it. And, no, the iPhone 4 doesn't work great today. At best, it limps along with the latest version of iOS 7 that is able to run on it.

Is the iPhone 5 obsolete because it has now been out for 2 years 7 months... time to throw away? You are saying yes, it is obsolete.

No, I didn't. You did.

Should everyone throw the iPhone 5 away this September when it hits 3 years and the far end of your range for the watch?

People should upgrade their devices once Apple stops supporting them, yes. Whether that happens sooner or later is up to Apple and when they plan to end-of-life a device as far as iOS is concerned.

I'm not trying to argue with you... saying the Apple Watch WILL be obsolete in 2-3 years is a 100% guess.

You're right, it's a guess. But what you fail to realize is that with each iteration of hardware and iOS, previous generations start missing features that new models receive.

Next year's Apple Watch will sport features that 1st gen won't get. And then the year after that, the 3rd gen Apple Watch will sport even more features that 1st gen won't get. That's how Apple works, that's how they get people to buy hardware iterations every year. So just imagine how long in the tooth the 1st gen Apple Watches will feel in a couple years, as Apple develops new and faster chips for the new models, and each new version of the OS causes the old models to get slower and slower.
 
Actually, you're doing the stretching. I'm only going by what Apple themselves say. Once they stop supporting a device with iOS, they've pretty much disowned it. And, no, the iPhone 4 doesn't work great today. At best, it limps along with the latest version of iOS 7 that is able to run on it.



No, I didn't. You did.



People should upgrade their devices once Apple stops supporting them, yes.



You're right, it's a guess. But what you fail to realize is that with each iteration of hardware and iOS, previous generations start missing features that new models receive.

Next year's Apple Watch will sport features that 1st gen won't get. And then the year after that, the 3rd gen Apple Watch will sport even more features that 1st gen won't get. That's how Apple works, that's how they get people to buy hardware iterations every year. So just imagine how long in the tooth the 1st gen Apple Watches will feel in a couple years, as Apple develops new and faster chips for the new models, and each new version of the OS causes the old models to get slower and slower.

OK, thank you... Not arguing with you on product life cycle and SDLC - that's my job every day, just the vague "It WILL be obsolete in 2-3 years". I'm being very polite.

The iPhone 5 which is 2 years 7 months old is nowhere near obsolete. Period... still selling for $380. Are their new versions? Yes. Will the iPhone 5 work with the Apple Watch? Yes and it isn't even out yet.

So, will the Apple Watch be obsolete in 2-3 years? No way to know... regardless if a new version comes out. Apple better put out a new watch every 2 years but it doesn't meant the gen 1 is obsolete. The iPhone 5 is now two gens back at least and no date given when it won't be supported. Then after that, it still works and still functions just fine.
 
Now I have no doubt iPoop would sell. The thread about the Apple Watch packaging in 7 pages long. 7 pages discussing the box it comes in. Wow. :D:D

If Apple were to announce the iPoop tomorrow, the Samsung Copycats would immediately steal the idea and then boast their new competing product within three months, dubbed the Samsung GalaxySuperPoop!

Samsung will promise customers that their GalaxySuperPoop will be far stinkier and more potent than the Apple iPoop could ever be! There will also be numerous other feature bloat (most of them useless).
 
The watch I currently wear everyday and several other watches I own are larger than the Apple Watch and they don't "catch on things".

The band needs to attach to the body of the watch closer to the face. Right now a lot of the watch body sits above the band. It's a box-like protrusion that catches on things. Like a wart!

If the band attached higher up, closer to the watch-face, the whole outline would be smoother. The watch-body would sit underneath the line of the band and offer a more streamlined look.
 
If Apple were to announce the iPoop tomorrow, the Samsung Copycats would immediately steal the idea and then boast their new competing product within three months, dubbed the Samsung GalaxySuperPoop!

Samsung will promise customers that their GalaxySuperPoop will be far stinkier and more potent than the Apple iPoop could ever be! There will also be numerous other feature bloat (most of them useless).

What does that have to with the power of Apple marketing?
 
OK, thank you... Not arguing with you on product life cycle and SDLC - that's my job every day, just the vague "It WILL be obsolete in 2-3 years". I'm being very polite.

The iPhone 5 which is 2 years 7 months old is nowhere near obsolete. Period... still selling for $380. Are their new versions? Yes. Will the iPhone 5 work with the Apple Watch? Yes and it isn't even out yet.

So, will the Apple Watch be obsolete in 2-3 years? No way to know... regardless if a new version comes out. Apple better put out a new watch every 2 years but it doesn't meant the gen 1 is obsolete. The iPhone 5 is now two gens back at least and no date given when it won't be supported. Then after that, it still works and still functions just fine.

iPhone 4 - no iOS upgrades.
iPhone 4S - is next in line. It, the iPod touch 5th gen, iPad 2 and AppleTV all run on dual core A5 chips, all with 512MB of RAM, which is barely adequate for iOS8.3. I won't be surprised if iOS9 will drop these devices.

iPhone 5 I'll venture may be next year.
 
None of these reviewers seem like the heavily involved fitness types. I see this watch being beneficial to people with an active lifestyle mostly. That's my decision to buy one and test it out. The other features are just bonuses for me. Not having my phone on me in the gym will be very nice.
 
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