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This makes no sense. Check your logic before posting.

The Series 11 is doing more work than the 10 (which gets to slack off with no sleep tracking), yet still manages to go 6 hours longer. If anything, this suggests the 11 is even more improved than stated.
Are you trolling? It makes perfect sense, check your insults at the door.

The series 11 test is a longer window that includes a low power activity naturally leading to a longer tested battery life. The chip is the same as the 10.
 
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So the S11 battery lasts longer when you DO include sleep tracking?

The battery on the Series 11 is about 11% larger and Ultra 3 6.7% larger in capacity than the previous generation. The claimed increase in usage time however is 33% for the Series 11 and 17% for the Ultra 3... the reason the claimed increase is larger than the actual increase is battery (since most hardware hasn't changed much so total battery drain isn't all that different) is because Apple is now considering 6 hours of sleep focus mode use in their calculations when before they did not consider sleep tracking when making their battery claims. I'm not making Apple out to be evil for doing this, after all in 24 hours most people do sleep, but I'm just pointing out the differences in the claims vs. the real battery increase because some (like myself) initially thought the large increases in claimed battery life was based on "active/awake" use and it isn't. My original post was just to build awareness so we can all make informed decisions on our potential upgrades.
 
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The battery on the Series 11 is about 11% larger and Ultra 3 6.7% larger in capacity than the previous generation. The claimed increase in usage time however is 33% for the Series 11 and 17% for the Ultra 3... the reason the claimed increase is larger than the actual increase is battery (since most hardware hasn't changed much so total battery drain isn't all that different) is because Apple is now considering 6 hours of sleep focus mode use in their calculations when before they did not consider sleep tracking when making their battery claims. I'm not making Apple out to be evil for doing this, after all in 24 hours most people do sleep, but I'm just pointing out the differences in the claims vs. the real battery increase because some (like myself) initially thought the large increases in claimed battery life was based on "active/awake" use and it isn't. My original post was just to build awareness so we can all make informed decisions on our potential upgrades.


That makes sense, thanks.
 
Classic Apple. This is the same as Airpods Pro 3 its just rebranded. The foam tips are the ones that provide the "ANC". Its still the H2 chip.

This Watch is just a S6 in a new shell.

Might as well add the disclaimer: When first unboxed daily usage is 36 hours, not mentioning the days after first unboxing.
 
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This is good reporting. And frankly misleading at best from Apple's marketing department (ahemm... Greg Joswiak -- I don't think Phil Schiller would have tried to pull this kind of shzit).
After all the lies about Stagemanager, Homepods, Airpods and Apple Intelligence. They got a lot of courage continuing this practise of misleading and rebranding without actually really improving products.
 
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If this is true it will be getting returned. I only use the ultra cause of the battery life...I dont need 42 hours, but I need it to always last one day, which the regular models do not.
 
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I have a Series 10. When I first got it I did a test and it ran for 40 hours on one battery charge in an average usage load for me. I tested it again the other day (after about a year) and it ran over 35 hours. These numbers are double what Apple says they should be, which makes me wonder how/why my numbers are so good compared to what they advertise.
 
I just got the series 10. I’ve gotten it to last 44 hours without even using low power mode. It’s insane how good the battery is for me.
 
I have a Series 10. When I first got it I did a test and it ran for 40 hours on one battery charge in an average usage load for me. I tested it again the other day (after about a year) and it ran over 35 hours. These numbers are double what Apple says they should be, which makes me wonder how/why my numbers are so good compared to what they advertise.

It always seems to be the case that we get better numbers than what Apple claims, at least until the battery gets below 90% or so.
 
I have a Series 10. When I first got it I did a test and it ran for 40 hours on one battery charge in an average usage load for me. I tested it again the other day (after about a year) and it ran over 35 hours. These numbers are double what Apple says they should be, which makes me wonder how/why my numbers are so good compared to what they advertise.
Its called under promise and over deliver. Its a psychological mind game creating post like yours how great these products are.
 
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Sticking with my series 9 (which I bought on launch) because I’ve not seen any meaningful upgrades to warrant the cost. I’ll give credit to Apple for not locking the hypertension measurement to only the 11 — it was the only thing that had my finger hovering over the pre-order button.
 
Isn't this the same way schools change their metrics to boost student performance metrics? We're living in a cown show!🤡🤡🤡🤣
 
I was the original poster that Macrumors linked to. I want to be clear that I am not saying Apple is wrong to change their method.
Agreed -- methods change, and there's nothing wrong with that. What is wrong is for Apple to use one method for calculating battery life for one model (AWS10), and a very different method for another model (AWS11), and then present a simple comparison that implies that the same method was used for both models. That's basically dishonest -- it's an attempt to fool anyone who isn't reading the fine print and doing their own, independent evaluations (so ≥99% of Apple's customers). Many demerits to Greg Jozwiak, and at least a few to Tim Cook for allowing him to get away with this crap.
 
Isn't this the same way schools change their metrics to boost student performance metrics? We're living in a cown show!🤡🤡🤡🤣
Public schools don’t choose their metrics, state or local officials do.

But your general point applies here and is spot on. Changing how something is evaluated to make it look better is cheating.

Maybe Apple has a good reason for using the different methodology for testing battery life. If so, they should have applied it to Series 10 and earlier before making claims about how much better the 11’s battery life is than the 10 or earlier.
 
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How? My Series 9 hardly lasts from 8am until 8pm! And I don't use sleep tracking, don't use fitness, don't do anything with it except occasionally glance at a notification! 🤣
My S7 lasts more than 24hrs with sleep tracking and at least one workout session a day. I do blank the screen at night with theater mode thought that is mainly to prevent the light from shining in my eyes in bed.
 
Do other watch manufacturers like Garmin include sleep tracking in their estimates?
I've done some digging and Garmin doesn't remotely go into the specifics of how they tested and determined their battery life claims, only stating the levels of battery life based on mode (screen always on, screen always off, lower power mode etc.) and that your mileage may vary based on how you use your watch. They never mention sleep mode but that doesn't mean they aren't considering it. I guess when you battery life is higher (4+ days on most models, some measured in weeks or a month even) it isn't as necessary to explain exactly how you tested it... for apple when they say 18 or 24 hours they likely know some wont reach it (while many will exceed it) and they want to be prepared to defend themselves by showing how they came up with the number... garmin doesn't have to give the detail since the battery life is high enough most won't be like "I only got 5.5 days and you claimed 6!".
 
Garmin makes their estimates by disabling all battery-consuming features, which is the equivalent of Apple making their estimations only on low power mode. This is the worst for me.
This isn't true, Garmin breaks down battery life for models into categories including normal always on screen, off screen, low power mode, reduced GPS frequency modes etc.
 
My Garmin watch battery only has 7 days with sleep tracking if I sleep too much compared to 9 days with normal amount of sleep and tracking.

Seems you get 1 day battery on AW if you don’t sleep. Isn’t sleep healthy?
 
I've worn my Series 10 for 2 days straight several times without charging it. It lasts way longer than 18 hours with normal usage. Apple's estimates are based on hefty usage. They are very conservative estimates. It can go much longer than that if you're not beating the thing to death.
You barely using it then, because many many many many people will easily debunk you, that with normal use and some excessive tracking it will not last you full two days.

Tired of the twisting of truths, misforming and just straight up lying. Like most after 24 hours with sleep tracking and a few exercise tracking your AW10 is under 30%

i really despise people telling ********.
 
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