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If this is true it will be getting returned. I only use the ultra cause of the battery life...I dont need 42 hours, but I need it to always last one day, which the regular models do not.
In my experience an ultra always lasts a day, always… unless you do over 12+ hours of gps use like on a day hike you are tracking or a full length Ironman. I’m sure using it as a cellphone for a lengthy time would also kill it. But “normal” watch use? A busy day kills around 50% at most for me.
 
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How? My Series 9 hardly lasts from 8am until 8pm! And I don't use sleep tracking, don't use fitness, don't do anything with it except occasionally glance at a notification! 🤣
Battery life depends on many factors: Which apps you are using, the number of notifications, screen brightness, how often you wake up the display, temperature, etc.
 
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Well as I mentioned, the new method probably doesn't apply to the 10 because Apple probably (barely) doesn't consider it to have enough battery life to include sleep time, so it can't be updated to the new method.

I agree though that the compare tool should ideally be clearer about the different meaning of the numbers. But I wouldn't go so far as to say it's devious because it's likely not motivated by deceit. Apple likely just didn't want to write out the explanation directly in the comparison since it takes more than a few words and the compare tool is meant to be a visually quick and easy way to compare, so they opted for putting it in the small print, which people technically should be reading (even though many don't). Hopefully the very similar low power mode comparison numbers (38 vs 36 hours) directly underneath will give people more reason to check the small print.
I hear you, but the headline number from the keynote and the website is 24 hours, when it’s been 18 for the last ten years. The obvious implication, and the one that I took away, was that battery life was up 33%, which it isn’t. There’s no way they didn’t know people would see it that way, and that’s why I’m sticking with devious.
 
Stuff like this is why I really dislike Apple not just giving full tech specs. I don't care if the advertising says 24 hours battery life or 40% faster, but somewhere on the website it should be required to give battery mAh and other things that are easily comparable to other phones/devices. Nobody would put up with "now with 25% more storage capacity" without a phone maker actually spelling out what the capacity is in gb/tb.
 
Stuff like this is why I really dislike Apple not just giving full tech specs. I don't care if the advertising says 24 hours battery life or 40% faster, but somewhere on the website it should be required to give battery mAh and other things that are easily comparable to other phones/devices. Nobody would put up with "now with 25% more storage capacity" without a phone maker actually spelling out what the capacity is in gb/tb.

well giving the battery capacity would still not give an apples to apples comparison because things like the 5G modem, the ultra getting LTO3, etc. could be argued to provide a lower or higher rate of battery usage so a smaller battery could get more battery life or a larger battery could get less. apple does provide very, very detailed (far more than garmin or competitors) information of how they determined the battery life in the fine print at the bottom of the specs page, but yes... you have to go looking for it. if you just look at 18 to 24 hours it might feel like a true 33% in battery gain year over year but it absolutely is not when you look at how they tested (which is there... in teeny tiny print.)
 
I don’t this is much of an issue. I don’t think anyone expects to be awake 24 hours of the day. Even if it’s just a little extra to support sleep tracking I’d still count it as 24 hours’ use time.
 
Using mAh might not be good for comparison with other brands of smartwatches. The Garmin ones can go for weeks.
 
I think it’s nuts that they did 6 hours of sleep…. I mean, you’re topping off before bed for a full sleep at that rate. I’m debating whether I’m going to keep my order or not now that I realize what they did.

Marketing seems to have too much influence at Apple these days.
 
Dang, I’m glad I pre-ordered the Ultra. I need quite a bit more battery life than my S7 provides, and was under the impression that S11 would provide 33% more battery life than S7 based on the advertised hours, so almost decided I didn’t need the Ultra. Turns out I probably do need the Ultra.
 
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