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It would be the most basic of functions for an AW S2 to default over to its internal GPS the moment it loses connective with the iPhone. Why would it always use its own GPS? That makes about zero sense, not to mention it uses battery faster.

It's obviously a matter of perspective. You consider it a basic function to piggy-back, and I don't. My Suunto has GPS and doesn't need to piggy-back to last 10-100 hours, so when I see that the Series 2 contains GPS hardware, my first thought is it should be able to do so without outside piggy-backing, and should be able to do so for longer than 5 hours.

*shrug*
 
I'm super glad that the new processor made it into series 1 as well... I wish the display did too.
I have NO interest in standalone GPS; but 1000 nits brightness impresses me!
GPS yes, but the S2 part of this sentence makes no sense--if the S2 actually did draw more power than the S1, then the revised Series 1 (which presumably has the same battery as before) would get less battery life than the original Apple watch, since it's getting an S2 as well.
According to http://www.apple.com/watch/compare/ the upgraded AW1 does not get the S2, but an improved S1p
 
It's obviously a matter of perspective. You consider it a basic function to piggy-back, and I don't. My Suunto has GPS and doesn't need to piggy-back to last 10-100 hours, so when I see that the Series 2 contains GPS hardware, my first thought is it should be able to do so without outside piggy-backing, and should be able to do so for longer than 5 hours.

*shrug*
Let me know when a Suunto can make a phone call or send a life-saving text message.
 
According to http://www.apple.com/watch/compare/ the upgraded AW1 does not get the S2, but an improved S1p
Interesting--I missed that. Makes it sound like the GPS is built into the S2, which may not be the case, but if so the S1P may just be an S2 sans-GPS.

Regardless, I would still strongly suspect that the CPU/GPU portion of the S2 does not consume more power than the S1 (or S1P). I'd frankly be shocked if Apple's engineers did anything but reduce the power requirements anywhere possible; GPS is a major feature, so can justify increased power draw, but I can't imagine they'd prioritize higher CPU/GPU performance over power consumption.
 
AW is a fitness watch not a sport watch. no change in future, i believe.
Unless you’re really into fitness or deathly worried about your health, you really don’t need to know your blood-oxygen content or anything like that. I really don’t need a fitness tracker, nor do I believe most others need one.
 
My 42mm battery lasts all day and only gets down to 58% or so. I then power it off, then turn it back on in the morning to use it again all day - thus only needing to charge it every second day. This was definitely not a thing I was complaining about when getting it.

My partners 38mm is another story though. She goes through a full charge daily.

Happy for an improvement in battery life, though it's unrequired for me. When it can get to a week on a single charge, I'd be impressed.

BULL!!!! I know thats a LIE, gets down to 58% after a day??..HAHAHA, unless your day is 6 hours, you don't touch it all day, and you immediately turn it off..Even if rarely get a text or call the entire day mine is at 30% OR LESS in 12 hours, and yes I have the 42mm...If you are at 58% after a day you must not even be turning on the screen to check the time, and have Zero people texting and calling you..so why do you wear the watch?..I am so glad I only paid $200 for this piece of crap, hopefully I can sell it and get some of my money back, you are just trying to make yourself feel better for blowing a ton on this POS by lying about the battery life..its AWFUL, overpriced and now thicker lol...And now for the first time in history of the company they are NOT going to release sales numbers for the iphone 7, because they know they have crap products they are releasing, no wonder the stock is down when it usually goes up after releasing an iPhone, I used to be a HUGE fan of apple, but they have lost touch with their customers, Steve is rolling over in his grave
 
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I think the GPS feature will be interesting to use once tested. It seems to be one of the top features requested.
 
If battery life is significantly better I will buy. Otherwise sticking with the original for another year.
 
If battery life is significantly better I will buy. Otherwise sticking with the original for another year.

According to apple you get the same battery life with series 1 and series 2: 18 hours.
http://www.apple.com/watch/battery.html
I don't know how many hours the original Watch lasts with the same tests
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Interesting--I missed that. Makes it sound like the GPS is built into the S2, which may not be the case, but if so the S1P may just be an S2 sans-GPS.

Regardless, I would still strongly suspect that the CPU/GPU portion of the S2 does not consume more power than the S1 (or S1P). I'd frankly be shocked if Apple's engineers did anything but reduce the power requirements anywhere possible; GPS is a major feature, so can justify increased power draw, but I can't imagine they'd prioritize higher CPU/GPU performance over power consumption.

We don't yet know the details of S2 and S1P. They may be more power efficient, and I'd expect that.
The bigger battery in series 2, if confirmed, may be needed for the GPS and for the brighter screen, but again we don't know the details so maybe the new screen is more power efficient than the previous.
What Apple tells us in the page I linked previously is that during a workout the GPS consumes a lot of power, in their example you have 8 hours of workout with iPhone's GPS and 5 hours if you carry your watch alone
 
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Watches were only ever round by necessity due to analog functionality.

Actually, clocks used to be in square cases at first, since they were in towers or big wooden boxes.

When they became personal, they went to round cases because of comfort (against a lady's skin as a pendant), convenience (being able to pull a fat pocket watch out of a man's pocket), and style (even today, nine out of ten mechanical watches are round).

Shapes have also been driven by fads. For instance, the public idolized pioneer pilots, and for a while went rectangular because of the Santos watch, made for the famous Brazilian flyer, Alberto Santos Dumont. Later on, when Lindbergh became famous, the public switched back to round (Lindy liked having a rotating internal bezel to help with sun navigation).

Likewise with the public following military trends for round from WW-I troops, to square with the General Pershing Tank watch, and then back to round again with all following military watches.

Plus, rotating bezels only work on round watches, which is important to aviators, divers, and the military, among others.

If you were making a watch from scratch and it were to be a smart watch, a circular display offers no advantage.

Sure it does. It's superior for displaying a round analog clock face in the biggest way possible :)

As for disadvantages, there aren't really any of substance, as those of us with both shapes can attest.

There is a reason phones and computers and TVs and books are not round.

Actually, for some apps, round is best. For example, a map of points of interest around you. Weather radar. Even some of Apple's apps are round, partly because it makes sense when using their rotating crown as input.

apple-round-apps.png


A wrist device is personal, most especially, one where Apple itself calls a Watch and has placed as a fashion statement.

If the purpose was only to ape a computer screen and see the most text, then we should all be wearing this Samsung:

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Actually, clocks used to be in square cases at first, since they were in towers or big wooden boxes.

When they became personal, they went to round cases because of comfort (against a lady's skin as a pendant), convenience (being able to pull a fat pocket watch out of a man's pocket), and style (even today, nine out of ten mechanical watches are round).

Shapes have also been driven by fads. For instance, the public idolized pioneer pilots, and for a while went rectangular because of the Santos watch, made for the famous Brazilian flyer, Alberto Santos Dumont. Later on, when Lindbergh became famous, the public switched back to round (Lindy liked having a rotating internal bezel to help with sun navigation).

Likewise with the public following military trends for round from WW-I troops, to square with the General Pershing Tank watch, and then back to round again with all following military watches.

Plus, rotating bezels only work on round watches, which is important to aviators, divers, and the military, among others.



Sure it does. It's superior for displaying a round analog clock face in the biggest way possible :)

As for disadvantages, there aren't really any of substance, as those of us with both shapes can attest.



Actually, for some apps, round is best. For example, a map of points of interest around you. Weather radar. Even some of Apple's apps are round, partly because it makes sense when using their rotating crown as input.

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A wrist device is personal, most especially, one where Apple itself calls a Watch and has placed as a fashion statement.

If the purpose was only to ape a computer screen and see the most text, then we should all be wearing this Samsung:

View attachment 649646

I like your ideas about certain apps like Maps or weather radar.

Although I do think companies are pressured to make something that conforms to what society is used to from a device (similar to why many people don't like electric cars that look nontraditional), I do applaud them for taking a step back and doing what makes most sense to them.
 
i wish they did a decent analog watch face... the only one i can bear is the 'simple' with no dial at all, that looks decent. but i wish they had one with the dial ticks on the corners and the complications inside, not that idiocy of putting the complications on the corner.
 
Actually, for some apps, round is best. For example, a map of points of interest around you. Weather radar. Even some of Apple's apps are round, partly because it makes sense when using their rotating crown as input.

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1. I'll give you this
2. Universally hated, even within Apple. Not controllable with crown other than to zoom into watch.
3. Killed. Dead.
4. This is literally the watch.

Your other examples are not better presented round than square.
 
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