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The screen is 2 x brighter and it has a GPS / barometer running, that is great they made it last similar battery time. 1mm wont matter.

I don't believe it has the barometer in there. Just GPS. I haven't seen any mention of the barometer included.
 
Is this the case? I thought the Apple Watch has an "all in one" chip and simply assumed that it will be from the identical production line for both series. Is the graphic chip separated or do they produce the new "all in one" chip for Series 1 differently, only updating the CPU?

It's a package, so there are still chips inside that are separate from each other. But it's all contained in one package. I'm assuming the inside is one board. So chips can be replaced during the manufacturing process.
 
Well, last night the band on my trusty Withings Activite Pop broke after 16 months of continuous use. I really like that watch, namely because of the 8 month battery life with a traditional watch battery. It'll cost me $30 to get a new band for the Withings watch -- much cheaper than the Series 2, obviously; but I'm more interested in the Series 2 than I was in the first-gen because it is "officially" waterproof (which my Withings watch is, as well).

I'm not thrilled about the prospect of having to charge the Apple Watch every day or two; but I would find the notifications on my wrist for certain things very useful. Case and point, last night my iPhone was on silent in my pocket and as such, I had no idea that my wife was texting me. It would be nice to be able to get those notifications silently on my wrist with a "tap".

Still on the fence about pulling the trigger on a pre-order, though.
 
I cant remember the last time Apple released a product that was thicker and heavier than the previous model.

You still have to carry your iPhone to make it work so I don't see the point in wearing one.
iPad 3 i think
 
Were did you read that value? On apple.com I found 18 hours battery life but they say nothing about GPS

See here: http://www.apple.com/watch/battery.html

Specifically, it says: "Using the built-in GPS of the Apple Watch Series 2 without iPhone, workout time is up to 5 hours."

Not something I would want on my wrist.

That's great.

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Bear in mind that this photo's wide angle severely distorts the size of everything in the picture making the Ambit look bigger than it really is, unless you also believe this guy has one heck of a meaty paw. Yeah, the Ambits (and Garmins) are larger devices, but to each his own as they say.

I'm not a hiker, but... if you're going on a 5+ hour hike, wouldn't you at least take your phone with you? In that case, the GPS capabilities of the AW would not be in use, in favor of the phone. Or am I missing something?

Perhaps, but perhaps not. Also, is there any indication that the Series 2 will use the iPhone's GPS in lieu of its own if the opportunity arrises? Defeats the purpose of having on-board GPS, doesn't it? I don't know, but my belief is that the watch will always use its own GPS regardless of a connected iPhone. I'm happy to be wrong, however, if anyone knows otherwise.
 
Bear in mind that this photo's wide angle severely distorts the size of everything in the picture making the Ambit look bigger than it really is, unless you also believe this guy has one heck of a meaty paw. Yeah, the Ambits (and Garmins) are larger devices, but to each his own as they say..


I think most people understand that person's hand/wrist and the watch are not the size of a good portion of the mountain behind them.
 
Wait… so Apple increased the Series 2 Watch thickness MORE for battery life (0.9mm) than what they REFUSE to increase the iPhone thickness for battery life and to remove the camera wart (0.77mm)??
 
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I just want a watch that looks like a watch, not a mini iPhone. Samsung can do it, why can't Apple?

I'm not sure why it's so important for a 21st century watch to look like watches from the 20th century, when the design of those watches was defined largely by limitations that a 21st century watch doesn't have.

P.S. Apple has sold a lot more watches than Samsung. Just because Samsung chose a certain design doesn't mean it actually works well.
 
I wish they would ditch the 2mm convex buldge for sensors. I mean I love the watch but it's painful to wear; that sensor buldge felt like a single point of pressure after a week of wearing. Tried everything to make it work but had to sell. :(

You are actually the first person I have heard mention that.
 
Battery life being the same .. I'm sticking with the pebble.

Thanks for the laugh.
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But they measure consistently on both devices. A few hands-ons from yesterday also noted the difference.

Oh yes! 3 grams. These metahumans noticing the mass differential of 3 grams. I'm sorry, but these complaints are those of old ladies sitting around having tea and crumpets circa 1899.
 
What blows my mind about the Apple Watch is the fact that it still doesn't work as a Siri remote for the Apple TV. I mean, seriously...the current remote app on the watch sucks. I have had the watch since day one, and, I like it. But, it still hasn't become everything I had hoped.
 
Battery life being the same .. I'm sticking with the pebble.
I noticed in recent stats that Fitbit is still number one and Apple is up there and a few others, but consistently, I have seen that pebble does not even get an honorable mention. Are they not doing well? Just wondering since it seems they have too few sales to make any list that I have seen recently.
 
This now explains the co-existence of the upgraded Series 1 alongside the Series 2. You can choose slightly thicker and heavier with GPS, brighter screen, and improved water resistance, or original size without those added features. Makes sense.

I'm guessing I might notice 0.9mm thicker at first compared to my original Sport, but new buyers might not. In either case, the size and how it wears is still comparable to a small Rolex mechanical like the Air-King (have one).
 
That's because you are not particularly smart otherwise you would realise that a watch is a watch and not a phone replacement. Both are complementing products or is this too difficult to understand ?

Perhaps if I told you it will replace your current 'analogue' watch (not phone!!) and makes it much more useful.

Can't make your point without insulting me?

I still think the Apple Watch is an ugly waste of money and the Series 2 is a missed opportunity to create something useful.
 
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Items which are harder tend to break more easily. As opposed to just deforming, denting, etc.

For instance, when hardening metal (as in the case of a knife), a harder metal will allow one to sharpen it to a “sharper” edge. But, that edge is more prone to chipping, and will dull more quickly.

You’re not going to easily scratch the ceramic. You’re not going to dent it. Yet if it breaks, it’ll likely be catastrophic.

Aren't Glocks made of ceramic? You'd think it would have to be pretty durable to fire a bullet. I doubt you'd be hitting it against anything with that much force.
 
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