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I just wish Apple would stop with the stupid red dots and rings on the crown.

I'm sure there will be a Series 5 or 6 for that. Just be ready to buy again... and again.

And contrast such wants against the overwhelming group desire for some obvious "redesign" of Apple everything so that friends can know you've got the latest & greatest instead of what appears to be the same old (design) one from the last few years. Apple can only do so much to feed that latter want too... especially on a device this tiny.
 
Kind of ironic. With the increasing functionality, appeal, and acceptance of this devise Apple chooses to discontinue the SE. A smaller device many may have chosen to keep in their pocket/bag as interactions with the wrist increase. :apple:
I think on the other hand the bigger phones make more sense in that scenario. You can keep your bigger phone put away when you are mostly interacting with your watch. Then use the big screen when it is warranted. I was a big proponent of the SE, now that I have the Xs I couldnt see myself going smaller. I really think this is the perfect size for the vast majority of people. Small enough to use with one hand, but the screen is nice and big.
 
The Series 4 looks nice. I want a reason to get one, but can’t really think of one.

Do you have an Apple Watch?
I have a series 1 and I think I can wait another year before upgrading. The Watch is quite slow at opening new apps or switching between faces, but most of the time I'm just dealing with notifications and my watch is fast enough to do the job.
ECG is interesting, but not available now and they didn't tell when it will be launched outside the US so one of the most important features is not there and simply have more speed and a smaller body (I'd switch from 42 to 40) isn't a compelling reason to spend $400
 
Do you have an Apple Watch?
I have a series 1 and I think I can wait another year before upgrading. The Watch is quite slow at opening new apps or switching between faces, but most of the time I'm just dealing with notifications and my watch is fast enough to do the job.
ECG is interesting, but not available now and they didn't tell when it will be launched outside the US so one of the most important features is not there and simply have more speed and a smaller body (I'd switch from 42 to 40) isn't a compelling reason to spend $400
I don’t have an Apple Watch, just an iPhone. Whenever I try to think of scenarios where the Watch would be really useful I come up blank. I always like to have my phone with me anyway, so it’s hard to justify carrying both. The health features are interesting but as you said ECG isnt even available yet, and since I’m generally healthy I wonder if constantly monitoring things would actually just make me more paranoid.
 
Is there any compelling reason to upgrade from a 3 cellular to a 4?
Only you can decide if the bigger screen and other new features are worth the price tag. I bought a S4 and returned it before I even opened it. I couldn't justify it when my S3 is working perfectly and only 7 months old.
 
The Series 4 looks nice. I want a reason to get one, but can’t really think of one.
Because it’s an amazing utility that punctuates humanity’s current state of technological development by illustrating our adeptness at mathematics, amongst other things?

No, this isn’t my reason, but thanks for asking. :p
 
I remember when Mark Wilson at Fast Company wrote this:

You Guys Realize The Apple Watch Is Going To Flop, Right?
Few analysts or writers will outright say it, but I will: the Apple Watch is going to flop. And I bet a lot of other people are thinking the same thing for many good reasons.

And this:

Why The Apple Watch Is Flopping
Will the Apple Watch recover, and sell 100 million units in two years, like the iPad, or three years, like the iPhone? There’s still time—but not at these rates. (Which, to be fair, are projections based on email receipts hoovered up by Slice, not from Apple itself.) Even with generous rounding errors, the Watch has failed to become the status quo object in wearables. And for Apple, that’s a flop.

So how did this happen? The answer may sound like heresy to those who canonize—or even merely admire—Apple’s designers. What if the Apple Watch, for all its its milled and woven metals, all its appearances on the catwalk, isn’t actually all that well-designed? So far, the Apple Watch doesn’t seem very useful, and it hasn’t proven that fashionable.


And this:

The Apple Watch Is Doing Splendidly If You Completely Lower Your Expectations For Apple
Even the worst-selling Apple product still pushes millions of units into the online and retail channel, but that doesn’t inherently mean that the Apple Watch will become a cultural phenomenon–and it forgets about the core economic principle of opportunity cost (namely, what could Apple have released if they dumped resources from the Apple Watch into a better product?). The iPhone sold 100 million units in three years. The iPad hit the same benchmark in two. The watch has another two Christmas retail seasons to reach that mark. Getting halfway would be more than respectable, but it wouldn’t equate to another Apple zeitgeist-defining moment.

Of course he’s still not done slamming Apple Watch:

The new Apple Watch 4 face is a design crime
 
I don’t have an Apple Watch, just an iPhone. Whenever I try to think of scenarios where the Watch would be really useful I come up blank. I always like to have my phone with me anyway, so it’s hard to justify carrying both. The health features are interesting but as you said ECG isnt even available yet, and since I’m generally healthy I wonder if constantly monitoring things would actually just make me more paranoid.
Health tracking, silent notifications, and working out with just the watch/airpods are enough for me. If that doesn't push you over the edge then likely nothing will.
 
Apple Watch has the prestigious title of "the most popular watch in the world", yet is categorized in the very un-prestigious "Other" category of odd-ball items? I don't understand...
 
Went from the 0 to the 4. There’s no comparison between the two. The 4 is a brillant piece of machinery
 
Apple Watch has the prestigious title of "the most popular watch in the world", yet is categorized in the very un-prestigious "Other" category of odd-ball items? I don't understand...
To the general consumer, where Apple places it in their earnings report is irrelevant.
 
I strolled into the Apple Maine Mall on opening day with zero intent of upgrading my S3ss. After hearing the improved audio on a demo call, I drove an hour down to BestBuy in Portsmouth, NH and bought one tax free. I am thrilled with the S4 call quality.
 
This is great to see.

Boy would they sell a ton more if they pulled an iPod and offered it on Android (which really doesn't have a good watch CPU), course that would require Apple Pay, iMessage etc. to be ported as well (a big job....but lay the foundation to lift a huge group of people over to Apple eventually).

Don’t be so visionary, tim will kick ya!
 
I remember when Mark Wilson at Fast Company wrote this:

You Guys Realize The Apple Watch Is Going To Flop, Right?
Few analysts or writers will outright say it, but I will: the Apple Watch is going to flop. And I bet a lot of other people are thinking the same thing for many good reasons.

And this:

Why The Apple Watch Is Flopping
Will the Apple Watch recover, and sell 100 million units in two years, like the iPad, or three years, like the iPhone? There’s still time—but not at these rates. (Which, to be fair, are projections based on email receipts hoovered up by Slice, not from Apple itself.) Even with generous rounding errors, the Watch has failed to become the status quo object in wearables. And for Apple, that’s a flop.

So how did this happen? The answer may sound like heresy to those who canonize—or even merely admire—Apple’s designers. What if the Apple Watch, for all its its milled and woven metals, all its appearances on the catwalk, isn’t actually all that well-designed? So far, the Apple Watch doesn’t seem very useful, and it hasn’t proven that fashionable.


And this:

The Apple Watch Is Doing Splendidly If You Completely Lower Your Expectations For Apple
Even the worst-selling Apple product still pushes millions of units into the online and retail channel, but that doesn’t inherently mean that the Apple Watch will become a cultural phenomenon–and it forgets about the core economic principle of opportunity cost (namely, what could Apple have released if they dumped resources from the Apple Watch into a better product?). The iPhone sold 100 million units in three years. The iPad hit the same benchmark in two. The watch has another two Christmas retail seasons to reach that mark. Getting halfway would be more than respectable, but it wouldn’t equate to another Apple zeitgeist-defining moment.

Of course he’s still not done slamming Apple Watch:

The new Apple Watch 4 face is a design crime

And it is a flop, only solid enthusiastic people like us have evolved it and brought it on its way.

Tim still counts,on health, instead on making it an independent voice assistant — long way to go for this still flop!

I have an S1 hardly use it, today its on my wrist, purposelessly
 
I don’t have an Apple Watch, just an iPhone. Whenever I try to think of scenarios where the Watch would be really useful I come up blank. I always like to have my phone with me anyway, so it’s hard to justify carrying both. The health features are interesting but as you said ECG isnt even available yet, and since I’m generally healthy I wonder if constantly monitoring things would actually just make me more paranoid.

I was the same. Then I bought one for my wife, and she just loooved it. So I wondered what the fuzz was all about, found a used one, and now I can't live without it.
It's like one of those things "You didn't know you needed until you got one"... Like a camera on you cellular phone. :)
 
I switched from Series 0 and, like many others, I am impressed.

But... I was also impressed by the utility my Series 0 gave me until the last day of use, barring the deteriorating battery. All in all, a good purchase, last but not least I found a buyer for it in a heartbeat.
 
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