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Apple Watch Series 4 Fall Detection Feature is Off by Default Unless You're 65+
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So only people 65 or older can fall down and need this.... condiscending at best ... insulting
Those are not tests, for actual falls. You know it yet you go blah blah blah blah.
Yeah keep moving the goal post. If slapping your wrist hard doesn't create enough g force to detect a fall then yeah 100% a gimmick. Apple knew they couldn't demonstrate this on stage. That's why all they did was show a cartoon picture. They aren't stupid.
It should automatically turn on when it detects you are in a city with lots of Bird or Lime scooterists. I’m convinced, based on three very scary near misses, that getting plowed into by some idiot who thinks 25MPH on the sidewalk is appropriate is the most likely reason I’m going to set off the fall sensor on my S4.
Slapping your wrist hard is a fall?
Seems what you're looking for is a "hard slapped wrist" detector.
https://nam-auth-dev-cdn.awspreprod...tch-shows-tech-companies-finally-considering/
https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/19/17875882/new-apple-watch-series-4-review-ekg-bands-screen-price
Probably said it on stage since it's reported in ALL REVIEWS.
Next time, I'm not doing your job buddy. Got that.
" Again, Apple’s health claims are not that the Watch will detect these falls, but simply that it could."
This is literally from the verge review lol. So again, if it's not reliable then it's a gimmick at best. And by every single review, including the verge review, they couldn't get it to work.....
Why is it not on by default? Too many false positives? Not good enough? Rant time!
My uncle died at 53 a couple years ago when he had a massive heart attack and fell hard onto his concrete driveway. He was wearing an Apple Watch Series 0. Nobody knew he collapsed outside. His wife and kids were inside the house. This feature may have saved his life at 53. I also knew a kid whose dad died falling off a ladder when I was a kid and nobody was around to tend to his injuries. Accidents happen. I think it should be in by default to save the most lives. Axiom of UI/UX design: DEFAULTS MATTER. In this case it’s life and death and many people hear that it has fall detection and won’t know to turn it on because they’re just some average person who doesn’t read tech sites.
My uncle died at 53 a couple years ago when he had a massive heart attack and fell hard onto his concrete driveway. He was wearing an Apple Watch Series 0. Nobody knew he collapsed outside. His wife and kids were inside the house. This feature may have saved his life at 53. I also knew a kid whose dad died falling off a ladder when I was a kid and nobody was around to tend to his injuries. Accidents happen. I think it should be in by default to save the most lives. Axiom of UI/UX design: DEFAULTS MATTER. In this case it’s life and death and many people hear that it has fall detection and won’t know to turn it on because they’re just some average person who doesn’t read tech sites.
The verge could not reproduce a fall, that's all they said.
A fall is 180G from .9m and 380g from 1m80 on concrete. Over 100G's on wood over concrete.
They're not doing it for good reason; they don't want to injure themselves.
Reproducing this or something less severe will damage even a healthy individual.
They're not testing and actual event UNLIKE APPLE whose claims must actually stand muster long term cause people will actually depend on their device.
They and the independent said Apple had a sampling of ACTUAL PEOPLE IN ASSISTED LIVING and with MOVEMENT DISORDERS (2500 which is a hell of a lot of people to monitor).
That's the whole point of the argument. They HAVE ACTUAL DATA of ACTUAL FALLS.
Unlike those bozos on YOUTUBE and YOU.
You are the epitome of desingenousness; you truly don't give a crap if you have a point, you'll pound it till it bleeds anyway.
thanks so much for this great post.
you tackle alot of good issues in it.
yr comments on mobility and other issues that the eldery deal with are accurate.
for me, Apple's development of this feature is just the beginning and look forward to more from Apple.
Apple has ALWAYS been in the forefront of quietly incorporating assistive features into its operating systems.
for me, however, this fall detection capability certainly isn't just for older persons.
it is for anybody who is engaged in activities such as hiking and cycling and skiing etc.
in other words activities that pose a higher chance of falls and higher benefit to getting help.
I look forward to trying it out!
Yeah no one can reliably reproduce a fall. Oh except Apple "reports". And trust me, I can fall just like some person in assisted living. It's not some skill you learn with age lol
If it's not reliable then again, it's a gimmick.
Strange that even Apple is now deciding a 'convenient feature', what age group would this be for. (by default). They really don't think no one between 50 and 60 can get hurt by a fall ?
lol.. Apple thinks so. otherwise it would have been on...
A feature that 'helps" everyone" is reduced by the age group ? Its not the first time Apple have done a good feature
If you fall you know that its happening,, no need be reminded by a watch.
lol.. Apple thinks so. otherwise it would have been on...
A feature that 'helps" everyone" is reduced by the age group ? Its not the first time Apple have done a good feature
If you fall you know that its happening,, no need be reminded by a watch.
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Coming next:
- Escape from home detection.
- Escape from taking the blue pill detection.
- Escape from updating iOS/WatchOS detection.
- Escape from the Watch detection.
- Escape from Google and Apple detection (in a joint effort between Google, Apple, and Governments across the World).
- Escape from home detection.
- Escape from taking the blue pill detection.
- Escape from updating iOS/WatchOS detection.
- Escape from the Watch detection.
- Escape from Google and Apple detection (in a joint effort between Google, Apple, and Governments across the World).
Even if you are fit and healthy you might still want to track your activity. Being able to visualise your achievements can provide a lot of encouragement to do more activity. Excersize is a lot about being motivated. Yes you can get a Fitbit but they are extremely limited I’d rather spend more and get a smart watch which allows me to do so much more. My husband had the same thoughts as you a few years ago and bought a Fitbit even though I told him to get a smartwatch. He said he didn’t need one. The following year he said he wished he’d got a smart watch and then bought one.
Falls are more frequent in the elderly but accidents can happen to anyone at anytime. A young person can fall off a ladder.
Yes... And your gold standard for characterizing a fall, is falling on thick couch cushions laid out on the floor and "slapping your wrist hard."
Please, contact Apple and let their scientists/engineers/health professionals know they're going about this wrong and put them on the right track.
I mean if not a single person in the real world can duplicate it then yeah maybe they should hire me lol.
Don't get me wrong, it's an amazing feature if it works reliably but if not then it's a gimmick. Kind of like the raise to speak feature. It's no where near reliable and people actually turn it off.....
Well, you see, that's the brilliance of this feature ... for Apple. Now tons of Apple Watches will be sold as "babysitters" to children of aging parents.
My mom fell at the care home the other day, and this feature may have alerted me directly, and sooner than the staff at the home were alerted.
I absolutely love this feature and its switched on for me even though I’m 30.
In the past two years I have had a hard fall. I was training with a soccer ball in my back garden on my own. I tried to turn too quickly at pace on a wet surface wearing sneakers and I slipped and heavily bruised my ribs on a rock.
I’m pretty confident that these types of falls are what Apple have tested.
Let these idiots keep on trying until they make a real impact.
In the past two years I have had a hard fall. I was training with a soccer ball in my back garden on my own. I tried to turn too quickly at pace on a wet surface wearing sneakers and I slipped and heavily bruised my ribs on a rock.
I’m pretty confident that these types of falls are what Apple have tested.
Let these idiots keep on trying until they make a real impact.
This is a emergency life saving feature, it won’t feel useful for people who fall down without the need of emergency call. Whereas, it will turn out to be annoying for youngster that do not need this feature. If they think they need it, turn it on themselves, easy as that.