Apple Watch Series 4 vs. Apple Watch Series 3

[Ankaa]

This picture nicely illustrates what I keep saying. They look ridiculously big.

Runner's watches used to be huge and bulky, still am to some extend. Those aren't watches I'd wear in my everyday life.

Unless they've put the 44 mm model on women's wrists for the photos, this is a definite NO from me. I'm so tired of this whole "bigger bigger bigger" thing with Apple for the past several years, and continuing....

 

[MrJeffreyGee]

Does anyone know if you can put an Apple Watch on a data only plan? Like if you had a data only SIM on an iPhone and paired the watch with that iPhone or if possible, do it without the iPhone pairing at all. This is my first Apple Watch, so pardon my ignorance on how the data plans work with the watches.

 

[DeepIn2U]

“Series 4 has Apple's new W3 wireless chipinstead of the previous generation W2
[*]Connectivity improvements also include new Bluetooth 5.0, up from 4.2 on Series 3”

This W3 and Bluetooth 5 means nothing to me if I still have to painfully wait for any and all my music to transfer from my phone to watch ...

Musst be on charger,
Still using Bluetooth only when I’m home and both on the swm Wi-Fi network. Grrr!

 

[usarioclave]

Confirmed on the order page that SS models still have the sapphire crystal.

 

[G5isAlive]

This picture nicely illustrates what I keep saying. They look ridiculously big.

Runner's watches used to be huge and bulky, still am to some extend. Those aren't watches I'd wear in my everyday life.

Unless they've put the 44 mm model on women's wrists for the photos, this is a definite NO from me. I'm so tired of this whole "bigger bigger bigger" thing with Apple for the past several years, and continuing....

Rather than speculate about what watch size is on what size model as taken through a fish eye lens to exaggerate size... how about go try one on and see how it fits you?

 

[johannnn]

“Series 4 has Apple's new W3 wireless chipinstead of the previous generation W2
[*]Connectivity improvements also include new Bluetooth 5.0, up from 4.2 on Series 3”

This W3 and Bluetooth 5 means nothing to me if I still have to painfully wait for any and all my music to transfer from my phone to watch ...

Musst be on charger,
Still using Bluetooth only when I’m home and both on the swm Wi-Fi network. Grrr!

Is this why transfers are so slow?
Why don’t they ever connect to each other via WiFi?

 

[DeepIn2U]

Is this why transfers are so slow?
Why don’t they ever connect to each other via WiFi?

This is EXACTLY why transfers are so damn slow! It’s very annoying and waste of time. The S2 and S3 each have Wi-Fi yet never used it for AAC/MP3 track transfers.

 

[diogenes65]

To each their own?

I for example haven't been wearing watches for decades. I always have my phone on mute and kept missing texts and calls. All. the. time. The watch actually improved that significantly. It also improved my workout experience. I may only use a fraction of the offered functions, but those that I do use have improved my life immensely.

But go ahead and keep feeling superior for not needing and wanting such a "stupid thing".

[doublepost=1537124883][/doublepost]I think what "WannaGoMa" is really saying is that I really can't afford one...as in why would anybody want that Maserati GranTurismo convertible or that Lambo...yuck. Personally, both my honey and I have found the workout, heart and sleep (AutoSleep) functions on our Series 3 watches a game changer.

 

[G5isAlive]

my bags incredibly small

sounds like a personal problem ...

if you go away for a weekend you are carrying a charger for your phone... so its just another short cord for travel, THIS is what you are going to criticize the Apple Watch on? Given the lack of capabilities on the watches that last a week, versus the numerous more capabilities of the Apple Watch... I'll carry the cord. Maybe my bag is a bit bigger .

 

[cmaier]

Does anyone know if you can put an Apple Watch on a data only plan? Like if you had a data only SIM on an iPhone and paired the watch with that iPhone or if possible, do it without the iPhone pairing at all. This is my first Apple Watch, so pardon my ignorance on how the data plans work with the watches.

No

 

[Mac 128]

Go away for the weekend, need a charger. Go on holiday, charger. That's the problem.

Well I guess that all depends on what phone and charger you have. If you have the X, then you only need to carry one inductive charger for both the watch and phone.

 

[NZBred]

One other missing data point: The Series 4 is about $100 more expensive across the board.

I love the "Display size is 35% bigger!", but "You'll barely notice the bigger body".



Yeah, it's probably just sour grapes because I won't be buying a new Apple Watch this year...

Here in Australia, its another AUD$200 and already seeing Series 3+LTE

One other missing data point: The Series 4 is about $100 more expensive across the board.

I love the "Display size is 35% bigger!", but "You'll barely notice the bigger body".



Yeah, it's probably just sour grapes because I won't be buying a new Apple Watch this year...

In Australia, the difference is AUD$200 (US$140) and already seeing (eBay) 6-month old Watch 3s (42mm)+LTE selling for under AUD$500, so upgrading to the Watch 4 is additional AUD$300. I have AW3+LTE and love it. After watching the (boring) Apple event, the only device I was considering replacing is my AW3 for an AW4. I was also looking at replacing iPhone 8 Plus for Xs Max but 512gb model in AU just under AUD$2900 when adding case, apple care and screen protector. That is just crazy given I purchased my 8+ from eBay (unused) for AUD$1,000. From past experiences, this decision to upgrade my Watch has been always been an easy one. However, given I paid AUD$599 for the AW3 and the AW4 has jumped to AUD$799, the decision to upgrade is - well - not straightforward. Understand the volume of phones/watch's has decreased, but damn, new prices are scandalous. Might be the first year I don't upgrade.

 

[Carbonsports]

What is the difference between Nike Series 4 and Apple Series 4? Do I lose anything if I get a Nike watch? I mostly want the band as my current one gets too sweaty when outside or working out.

Same thing, just a watch face that is only for the Nike models, but I get the normal watch and just buy the Nike band. Same issues you said

 

[honglong1976]

sounds like a personal problem ...

if you go away for a weekend you are carrying a charger for your phone... so its just another short cord for travel, THIS is what you are going to criticize the Apple Watch on? Given the lack of capabilities on the watches that last a week, versus the numerous more capabilities of the Apple Watch... I'll carry the cord. Maybe my bag is a bit bigger .

I don't want to go on holiday and be power cable man!

Apple should really make the puck with a removable lightning cable. One less cable to carry.

I still don't understand why the Apple watch uses so much power while the screen is off the majority of the time. Even when off the wrist.

They should implement a feature when you take it off the wrist, wifi and bluetooth are switched off. Move and they turn on again. Like the Pebble used to.

Maybe Series 5

 

[recoil80]

I'd love 44mm if good apps existed. At the moment, I basically only use stock apps.
Take something like email. I get the notification on my watch, but 99% of the time the email is unreadable when I try to open it. It can't open rich formatting of what?
And a bunch of apps dont have Apple Watch apps, like WhatsApp. All I can do is read the notification and then get my phone.
I have a Series 2 42mm at the moment, so Series 4 40mm will give me exactly the same screen size.
If Apple ever improves WatchKit I'll definetely get the 44mm.

I can usually read emails but on such a tiny device it is really inconvenient.
Apple Watch to me is just a notification device, I can quickly dismiss stuff I'm not interested to or reply quickly to a message by voice or via a set of standard answers.
The only app I start using on the Watch without responding to a notification is Overcast to select another podcast to listen while I'm on public transit as I don't want to take my iPhone out and sometimes I start a workout.
I have my bank's app on the Watch to check the balance, but do I really need to check it so frequently?

I'm a developer and I really wanted to try to do something on the Watch but I can't come up with a really useful app related to the stuff I do. Apart from rich notifications I can't find a use case where the app is mainly on the Watch and you seldom interact with the iPhone. It is usually the other way round

 

[Mac 128]

I can usually read emails but on such a tiny device it is really inconvenient.
Apple Watch to me is just a notification device, I can quickly dismiss stuff I'm not interested to or reply quickly to a message by voice or via a set of standard answers.
The only app I start using on the Watch without responding to a notification is Overcast to select another podcast to listen while I'm on public transit as I don't want to take my iPhone out and sometimes I start a workout.
I have my bank's app on the Watch to check the balance, but do I really need to check it so frequently?

I'm a developer and I really wanted to try to do something on the Watch but I can't come up with a really useful app related to the stuff I do. Apart from rich notifications I can't find a use case where the app is mainly on the Watch and you seldom interact with the iPhone. It is usually the other way round

That’s because Jony Ive designed the watch specifically for brief glances. After the Watch was launched during his world tour handing out $10K editions, he stated this explicitly, and that anything more than a quick glance and the customer should pull out their iPhone.

What’s happened is people see the watch is capable of more, and push the envelope, especially tech-oriented people, the same ones who used to wear scientific calculators on their wrist, so they could do elaborate calculations anywhere. When the watch can display an entire news article in 1.5” scrollable windows, people get lazy and start doing that instead of pulling out their phone to get the same information much more efficiently. Now you have some people walking down the street with their heads even further bent down and now wrist raised while they read and scroll with the other hand.

 

[toke lahti]

Sorry, if this is already aswered, but
Is there any known technical limitations, why 42mm s3 could not have the same faces that 40mm s4 has?
Their displays are almost exactly the same!

 

[Phogro]

Sorry, if this is already aswered, but
Is there any known technical limitations, why 42mm s3 could not have the same faces that 40mm s4 has?
Their displays are almost exactly the same!

Technically no I would imagine that you could make the 42mm watch display the 40mm watch faces.

However, rounded vs not rounded might present some display issues. More importantly though Apple probably wanted to keep the Series 3 the same across all sizes of the Series 3 and the 38mm face is most certainly too small for the new high density faces.

 

[rjohnstone]

Well I guess that all depends on what phone and charger you have. If you have the X, then you only need to carry one inductive charger for both the watch and phone.

Apple Watch uses a proprietary charger.
A Qi charging pad will not charge the watch.