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I was thinking rather than bright colors, they might have more success with muted, metallic tones for the Watch. Imagine like a dark copper color. That could look more elegant then a bright red, I think.
 
I have the cellular version and I'm able to do several things that don't require my phone. Running and biking. I would also say hiking but I like to take pictures. Apple pay is nice if you don't have your phone or wallet (don't think cellular is required for this). Water activities. I live in Texas so on the river, at the beach or at a water park. Can stay in communication with my family if we go different ways for a bit. I have teenagers, so I'm not cool enough to hang out with.:)

I don't think fitbit could help me with any of these things.
But those are exactly the things that a Fitbit does, and in many cases arguably better than an Apple Watch as it's a fitness/activity tracker first and foremost. The only exception would be LTE, you'd have to look at an alternative manufacturer like Garmin for that, but I think the OP was using the term Fitbit to refer to 'non-Apple fitness/activity watches' more than just that specific company. The days when these devices just counted how many steps you did a day are long gone.
 
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I would agree, but with the AW7 fast charging I generally only need to put it on my charger when I shower after AM workout and before I go to bed for 20 minutes or so. It doesn't disrupt my life.
I’m excited to upgrade this year for this alone. The pre-Series 7 charging speed used to ‘feel’ fast to me, but sure doesn’t anymore.
 
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I am excited to hear “no delay”. I last bought an S4, and I remember lining up at an Apple Store on launch day. They only received one stainless steel model, and a guy in front of me bought it. The other two local Apple Stores sold out that morning, too.

Ended up waiting over a week for one to ship, which had a defective display.

Fortunately, AC+ included advance replacement coverage and I got a new one within another two days. But what a debacle that S4 launch was.
 
How would you prefer Apple does a new red shade? I can imagine it being more vibrant, darker, lighter... what else? My favorite from this quick mockup is C, but I'm sure others will have their own ideas.
 

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But those are exactly the things that a Fitbit does, and in many cases arguably better than an Apple Watch as it's a fitness/activity tracker first and foremost. The only exception would be LTE, you'd have to look at an alternative manufacturer like Garmin for that, but I think the OP was using the term Fitbit to refer to 'non-Apple fitness/activity watches' more than just that specific company. The days when these devices just counted how many steps you did a day are long gone.
The only other watch that has the same capability as the AW with cellular is the Galaxy watch. Nothing else compares in functionality. I get the use of Fitbit in the comment. Why can’t I use it the same way that poster did?
 
I’m excited to upgrade this year for this alone. The pre-Series 7 charging speed used to ‘feel’ fast to me, but sure doesn’t anymore.
When i went from the 4 to the 7 the charging speed was like “woah”.
 
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This is one of the worst apple products ever. We have 3 Apple Watches, we don’t even bother to charge them anymore. We just wear them because they costed a lot of money lol
Apple dupes many undisciplined and style conscious consumers like iPhonefan. By any standard the Apple Watch is a serious, feature rich device. And some (many?) never drill down.
 
I'm so excited about the series 8. It'll be my first Apple Watch, and I'm looking forward to trying the watch out with Apple Fitness+ so I can lose some weight while having fun doing it.
 
The only other watch that has the same capability as the AW with cellular is the Galaxy watch. Nothing else compares in functionality. I get the use of Fitbit in the comment. Why can’t I use it the same way that poster did?
You can, but I thought the point you were making was that 'other devices' couldn't do those things you listed, my point is they can do every one of those if you extend that to Garmin, Suunto etc (including NFC payment and LTE), and often better than an AW. That's not to say they're an overall better watch, they lack Apple's 'polish' and don't offer everything the AW does outside of fitness (especially in terms of apps), but going back to the OP's question, he asked what AW offered above 'other devices' and as he specifically said he's not interested in apps, there's not such a compelling case, and certainly not one linked to activity tracking that I'm aware of.

I'm a long-time Garmin user and a couple of times I've given AW a go really wanting it to work for me, but it was just too big a step backwards in terms of the functionality I wanted. Apple have definitely caught up in recent years, but I think they're aiming for a different market segment and their walled garden continues to be a major PITA when it comes to integrating with other fitness tech.

YMMV, of course.
 
Just sitting here waiting for the watch to be sold as a standalone case. By now you’d think the straps would be a separate purchase. Decreased extraneous packaging and buying just what you want. Le sigh. One day.
You can pick your watch style and strap style at the time of purchase. But I agree that offering people the option to buy without a strap and a slight discount would be nice.
 
I would agree, but with the AW7 fast charging I generally only need to put it on my charger when I shower after AM workout and before I go to bed for 20 minutes or so. It doesn't disrupt my life.
That's totally fair and it's great that's working for you. For me having one more device I can almost forget about and just use it without watching its battery status or having it in my daily (charging) routine is a big plus. Also it's one less charger when travelling.
 
I just wish they’d bring back ceramic.

I always end up settling on stainless steel, but it’s annoyingly heavy and just scratches so easily…

Have had three Steel versions and now on Space Black titanium. Looks amazing an no scratches and very light. Weight of the steels didn’t really bother me though
 
Glad they’re making adjustments to packaging. I was never comfortable buying an AW7 from a retail store because I wasn’t sure if it was opened and then returned.
 
How would you prefer Apple does a new red shade? I can imagine it being more vibrant, darker, lighter... what else? My favorite from this quick mockup is C, but I'm sure others will have their own ideas.
C…but with a black band.

Never understood why Apple marketing of the colour aluminum watch had everything the same colour.
 
That's totally fair and it's great that's working for you. For me having one more device I can almost forget about and just use it without watching its battery status or having it in my daily (charging) routine is a big plus. Also it's one less charger when travelling.
Good point. Chargers for vacation, especially for the whole family….ugh, 🤮. Can’t wait tI’ll iPhone goes USB C so we only have 2 chargers to bring to cover iPad and/or Kindle as well.
 
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