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some leather loop version are not even available for adding to the cart :confused:

Just worked for me...
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Speaking only for myself as a not wealthy single dad, this was announced months ago and once I paid bills, bought groceries, kept my growing child in fitting clothes, etc. I chose to tuck away a few dollars a week to buy myself the extremely rare "something nice for myself."

I think my priorities are okay.

Cheers buddy, I did something similar.

My gf and I have been shopping to purchase a home, so we have been more frugal than usual with our money. However, we know we can't completely save everything so we give ourselves a "monthly allowance", or free spending money so we can still enjoy life.

I made it very clear nearly a year ago that I was going to want one of these and that I would be tucking away a portion of my free money each month toward one of these. Now the day is here and buying is no problem. :)
 
You do know that designer shoes cost 500+ dollars.
Designer suit 2000+ dollars.
Designer shirt 150+ dollars.
And this watch actually does something, it's not just looking pretty.

To expand on that not with high end items but mid-range like Canali.

Suite - Canali - $2,500
Shirt - Canali - $200
Tie - Canali - $150
Belt - Canali - $200
Shoes - Santoni - $500
Undershirt/Underwear/Socks - $75
Watch - Rolex Datejust II - $12,000
Wallet - Tom Ford - $200
Sunglasses - Tom Ford - $400
Phone - Apple - $650

You are looking at ~$17,000 just for a total mid-range outfit not including a bag (low end $800 plus computer ect.)

The AppleWatch isn't what I would be targeting if I were a criminal.
 
I see it in my Apple Pay, but I don't see any charges on my card yet.

I got a push notification from my AMEX app, I am quite certain that apple puts a hold on your card for the exact amount until it ships (when it physically gets charged)
 
I see it in my Apple Pay, but I don't see any charges on my card yet.

Thanks for the response. I don't even see it in my Apple Pay, but other than that, the orders on the store look normal and have a visa info shown in there - but oddly nothing shows up on my Apple Pay on the device I used to make the purchase.

I suppose it's ok. Otherwise I'm sure Apple will contact me.

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I got a push notification from my AMEX app, I am quite certain that apple puts a hold on your card for the exact amount until it ships (when it physically gets charged)

Thanks. There was no hold for me (I checked the card), or any indication in Apple Pay for any of my orders (4: two watches, two bands).

But the orders themselves look like a visa card was attached. It's weird.
 
Has anyone who preordered this morning using the Apple Store App and Apple Pay seen any indication that anything happened on their credit cards?

I received confirmation emails and have the orders in the queue via order status showing what kind of card I paid with. I ordered the larger (42mm?) steel model with class buckle at 3:01 precisely, then another at 3:10 - both show 4/24 - 5/8 delivery window).

However, my Apple Pay shows no activity. Neither does the credit card. It's like nothing happened there.

As with most legit things you buy online they don't charge you until it ships. So you won't see that on your statement until around 4/20.
 
This has been in the news for about a month. I'd be surprised if Apple haven't covered this already.

Well as of the 10th March, Apple still hadn't even told the Hallmarking council of the "Gold's" make up.

Could be an interesting one.
 
I made it very clear nearly a year ago that I was going to want one of these and that I would be tucking away a portion of my free money each month toward one of these. Now the day is here and buying is no problem. :)
Exactly!

Same here- plus no one should feel like they have to 'justify' a personal purchase choice.
 
I doubt they truly sold out. Its more likely Apple is holding back supply to create demand.

Because all businesses are happy to sell 1 million units when they could've sold 2 million units. There is no reason to create scarcity when you cannot have thousands lining up at your storefront.
 
Well to be fair - on the flip side, they watches are in the stores and on display somewhat, no? I'm not defending the comment. Just noting that this is the first time the public can see a watch (more) up close. Appointment or not.

I would have have thought there'd be a little "noise" in/outside the stores more than usual.

Just behind a glass, I believe. I am definitely interested in seeing them in person even behind glass, but since I won't be able to touch or try them on without an appointment, I am not in a rush to be there right when it opens. Especially since you can't even order it at the store for future purchase - must be done on your own, online.
 
I wonder when they will launch in the rest of the world. I doubt this'll be like the iPhone, when they first roll out in 10 countries or so but in 2-3 weeks, the rest of the world gets it as well. This time I bet I'll have to wait until mid-summer to even see it in store.
 
I doubt they truly sold out. Its more likely Apple is holding back supply to create demand.

Deja vu. Why do people insist on saying this when it's pretty clearly not true?

I hear this line of crap every time some Apple product sells at an insane pace, and we later learn there was no holding back and that demands truly was enormous and too much for Apple to accommodate.
 
I call BS, mine was 4-6 weeks delivery and I ordered 3 minutes after the store went live. I ordered the steel with sport band. Figure I can get another band later. But it was never set for Apr. 24th. I'm sure they sold out, but if they have steel watches in stock on Apr. 24 and I have to wait two more weeks I'll just be a tad bit upset.
 
I guess some people like to pretend they are rich while outside but live really poor. I'd do that if I had the opportunity. I don't care for a flash apartment when I'm outside a lot of the time.

I'm not sure what you mean. There are people who live within their means at home and out and about. Anyways...this is getting off topic.
 
If it's as you imply, is Apple dumb for not being able to EVER guess well at initial demand? Of course not. They're smart people. So how does this still happen EVERY SINGLE TIME?

The only way that is compatible with the concept that the scarcity play is not utilized is that real demand always so far outstrips supply that no amount of Apple planning nor no amount of cash spent on manufacturing capacity can ever lead to the availability of more than a few minutes of available supply.

With this Watch, I can somewhat buy that it is hard for even Apple geniuses to make a modestly-accurate demand estimate for a brand new product & product line launch. However, it's the same sequence of events with every iterative (iPhone and iPad) launch too. EVERY SINGLE TIME.

There's no Apple put-down in all that- just answering a post to offer another view of the scarcity marketing tactic in a way that makes Apple look smart (genius), instead of seeming to always lack the ability STILL (after all these years) to better forecast demand such that product delivery is delayed within minutes of going on sale.

This doesn't happen every single time. This happens with the iPhone and not really any other Apple product. Unlike other companies, when Apple launches an iPhone, they sell tens of millions of that product. It has little to do with their ability to predict demand but rather the ability to meet that demand. The production capacity isn't there. Apple doesn't manufacture their product, that's contracted out. The assemblers depend on the part suppliers. Could they use their cash to better meet initial demand of these products? Sure, but it isn't worth that additional cost. They would either have to bankroll additional factories that wouldn't be utilized most of the year, or they would have to delay the launch of their products while they stockpile them.
 
Rare sapphire screens?:confused: Please tell me you're joking. Synthetic sapphire is neither rare nor hard to produce. It's tried and true tech for watches.

Just ask the folks at GT Advanced Technology how easy it is to make high optical quality Sapphire in the production quantities needed by Apple. FYI They declared bankruptcy trying to do just that. You are correct, if they are growing Sapphire crystal ingots less than 6" in diameter, because the crystal structure is very susceptible to pull and cooling rate failures.
 
Here is how it could be. Maybe they want to see what is popular before they ramp up production on those types that are in high demand.

Wouldn't that be something a reasonable person could suggest regarding an intentional restriction?

I'm sure they have a pretty good understanding of the demand for the watches, certainly enough that if the production capacity was there, they wouldn't be backordered within hours. You could say that they were completely and utterly blown away by the demand, but I think it's unlikely that they'd be that far off with their prediction.

Not having product available pushes consumers to other products. Not having it for an extended period of time is going to push people to wait for the next iteration, and there is already enough people that are fearful of getting a first gen product. weeks to months of back orders will push those people to wait. That's not what Apple, or any business wants. Money now is always better than the possibility of that same money in the future.
 
Well they launch their sales at 12:01 EST, so it really sold out in about 10 hours. But once sold out they are gone for good

Geez!!!! Couldn't you have told me that Y E S T E R D A Y TallMan?

I would've sat up all night in my underwear, with the meh-dot-com website up on my iPhone, iPad and iMac too just in case. Finger poised on the BUY button at midnight.

:)
 
Do we really have to play this game every time there's a new Apple product?

"It won't sell."

… product sells out in hours …

"Apple are deliberately holding supply back."

… sales figures show they sold a metric crapton …

"It's only the loyal fanboys that bought them."

… next quarter shows sales growth …

"We've reached saturation point."

… continued sales growth …

… repeat for the next X years …

*sigh*

So true. You had me dying at metric crapton...
 
"I see no need for wearables"

"This thing is dead in the water"

"It'll never take off"

"No one will buy the Apple Watch"

I don't know why people make these kind of predictions, as if they're the ones with all the foresight to be able to qualify what will happen to a product that's only JUST being launched, and in its first iteration too.

Same was said about the iPod (the first one ever) - if you want a good laugh, read this review of of the first ever iPod, written by Macworld in 2001... then read the comments - same borked logic applies to Apple watch naysayers:

http://www.macworld.com/article/1002488/29ipod.html
 
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