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I wonder if that changes how people feel about handing over hundreds, even thousands of dollars for this thing...

No

You've got to hand it to Apple though... what an incredible company.. to make products with such an insane profit margin, but thanks to perhaps the best marketing and sales strategy of any company in the world, they will sell millions of them.

Marketing & sales only gets you so far.

No matter what the company or product -- keep this in mind:

Marketing: Gets you TO the door.

Sales: Gets you THROUGH the door.

Good or great product/service: Keeps you IN the building.

If your product or service is garbage, you'll leave and never come back again.
 
I wonder if that changes how people feel about handing over hundreds, even thousands of dollars for this thing...

You've got to hand it to Apple though... what an incredible company.. to make products with such an insane profit margin, but thanks to perhaps the best marketing and sales strategy of any company in the world, they will sell millions of them.

Yeah it's incredible that they're able to rip off their customers and that their customers try to find reasons as to why this is a good thing.

Boggles my mind.
 
These things really are meaningless, R&D costs a fortune. Not sure why people cant understand this, seems very simple to me.
 
To the people who think the watch is over priced as a result of this...try selling bags of cement and piles of wood for the same price as a fully assembled house of identical mass.
I understand what you're saying but it's not really an apt comparison. You can't have a machine build a house, and building a house typically requires weeks or months of skilled labor from experienced construction workers.

Yeah, a lot of research went into figuring out how best to assemble the Apple Watch. But once that work was done, they utilize machines and cheap labor to pop one out every 20 seconds. Surely that cost needs to be incorporated somewhere but I doubt that, allocated, it's enough to even bring the final cost over ~$120.
 
What is the relevance to all of this IHS?

If people are happy with Watch and willing to pay the price Apple decides to sell it at what are you worrying about?

The components do not make the full product... Design, R&D, Manufacturing costs, Marketing... where shall I stop?

IHS iSuppli - What is the point to your exercise? :confused:
 
I really hope you apple watch people feel like fools now. That's pretty much rape at those profit margins. ..... Those poor wallets. Won't someone please think of the wallets?


The only person that needs to be thinking of your wallet is yourself. You choose what you want to buy, and I'll choose what I want to buy. If you don't think the Apple Watch is worth your money, don't buy it. Nobody is forcing you to buy the Apple Watch, as you seem to imply.

Also, learn how products are developed, manufactured, shipped, and sold before you make comments on profit margin.
 
If you think that the rest of the price is profit margin for apple.

Then just buy the parts worth 83.10$ and assemble it, now you've got a Apple watch for only 83.10$. Does not work that way? Oh snap.
 
0.80 for the battery
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Is it only me or is this headline just plain weird (yes i know what it's reffering to)?
 
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Big margins makes total sense. This is a product for Apple loyalists, who represent relatively inelastic demand curves, and there isn't a lot of competition.

And for the people saying they need to recoup R&D costs...that has absolutely nothing to do with pricing. Profit maximization occurs when marginal cost equals marginal revenue. This has nothing to do with fixed costs.
 
I don't really understand why people get so excited about cost breakdowns of apple products. There are some fundamentals everyone should understand. Apple is a business, businesses are there to make money. Apple will never sell a product at a loss, as that would not make sense. Everyone knows you pay a premium on apple products, and if you're willing to pay the price, enjoy the product and stop complaining.

If you want to be truly shocked by product profit margins, try items such as iPhone cases, many of which have profit margins of well over 300%.
 
What is the relevance to all of this IHS?

If people are happy with Watch and willing to pay the price Apple decides to sell it at what are you worrying about?

The components do not make the full product... Design, R&D, Manufacturing costs, Marketing... where shall I stop?

IHS iSuppli - What is the point to your exercise? :confused:

ps: Of course the internals are the same - stupid quote :rolleyes:
 
R&D, advertising, etc. knowing the cost of the raw materials of a Mercedes Benz can't get you a brand new S Class in your garage for the same cost.. stupid way to look at this.
 
Zero mention of the linear actuator and a few other components. Not to mention the cost of the combined power of engineer's minds...
 
gross margin

Why all these polemics about real cost and R&D while the gross margin of Apple products is made available to the public officially by Apple ?

April 27, 2015: "Gross margin was 40.8 percent compared to 39.3 percent in the year-ago quarter."
 
Before everyone goes nuts, remember R&D costs need to be recouped.
You're right but to what extent? Those costs diminish quite a bit after the first version is produced, and we know the price probably isn't going to diminish a few iterations down the road. This is just classic Apple getting away with much larger profit margins than the rest of the industry. They don't get hundreds of billions of dollars in cash without them.
 
If we ignored all the other costs that were not included in the report (i.e. R&D, marketing), how accurate is this component cost breakdown? Are those components valued at bulk-pricing that Apple would actually pay per part?
 
Big margins makes total sense. This is a product for Apple loyalists, who represent relatively inelastic demand curves, and there isn't a lot of competition.

And for the people saying they need to recoup R&D costs...that has absolutely nothing to do with pricing. Profit maximization occurs when marginal cost equals marginal revenue. This has nothing to do with fixed costs.

Looks like someone just finished their intro to micro class.

In the real world, fixed costs are accounted for in pricing. How else are you going to cover them?
 
IHS confirms that the Apple Watch Sport includes 8GB of Toshiba flash memory, 512GB of Micron RAM, and components manufactured by Broadcom, STMicro, Maxim, NXP, and Analog Devices.

Yet in the iPhone we suffer with just 1GB of RAM, damn!
 
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