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I work in Cost and while R&D is rarely part of a cost calculation and is written off in other areas of finance, but there are some misconceptions about the material cost.

In my experience Material cost is about half the cost of a product.
You have to factor in actual design engineering and engineering support (5-10%) through the life of the manufacturing, construction labor directs and indirects (supervision) (30-35%), equipment usage (15%), handling, storage preservation and warehousing, safety, quality control and inspection (all 10% or so) and often there are small components that are contracted out which contain their own profit and overhead.

Typically the raw and bulk materials are 25-40% of the cost of manufacturing. The other 60-75% is the items mentioned above. So $85 in materials is more like $180 to actually manufacture. The rest to get to retail price is advertising, life of service (warranty), defects, legal, insurance, employee training, etc the list goes on and on. So the true bottom line profit margin on these products is not quite what you would think. Typically less than 20% of msrp and more like 5-10% of msrp. I would imagine Apple is closer to the 20% of true profit margin back to the investment community and driving company growth...


Any product on the market where the cost of materials is higher than 60-75% and that tells me they are basically taking a loss on that particular product in order to support other higher margin products.
 
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I work in Cost and while R&D is rarely part of a cost calculation and is written off in other areas of finance, but there are some misconceptions about the material cost.

In my experience Material cost is about half the cost of a product.
You have to factor in actual design engineering and engineering support through the life of the manufacturing, construction labor directs and indirects (supervision), equipment usage, handling, storage preservation and warehousing, safety, quality control and inspection and often there are small components that are contracted out which contain their own profit and overhead.

Typically the raw and bulk materials are 25-40% of the cost of manufacturing. The other 60-75% is the items mentioned above. So $85 in materials is more like $180 to actually manufacture. The rest to get to retail is advertising, life of service (warranty), defects, legal, insurance etc the list goes on and on. So the true bottom line profit margin on these products is not quite what you would think. Typically less than 20% and more like 5-10%. I would imagine Apple is closer to the 20% though true profit margin back to the investment community and driving company growth...

Apple doesn't do 20%.
 
These cost breakdowns are always interesting. I've always thought technology is such a bargain. I mean think about it... to be able to buy a 50" television for $500 nowadays, that is amazing. If I had $500, what am I going to do, somehow build myself a 50" TV? It would cost me so much more money and not to mention time (if I was even smart enough and had the tools to do it), that suddenly $500 seems dirt cheap. Yet they're making profit so the parts breakdown cost is even lower.

So different from, say, going to Olive Garden and paying $12 for a bowl of pasta that probably has $1.50 worth of materials. (I love Olive Garden sometimes too lol). But somehow the food comparison doesn't hold up like it does with tech comparison. Unless you are clueless on how to cook spaghetti. :cool:
 
To the people who think the watch is over priced as a result of this...try selling bags of cement and piles of wood for the same price as a fully assembled house of identical mass.

They took manufacturing prices into account too so no it's not.
 
aswell as R&D

shipping, storage, packaging, support/warranty etc

to name a few.

but theres a simple solution. If you don't like it don't buy it :)
 
That's why it's called a Smart Watch then!

Customer: "You told me this £400 Apple Watch thing was going to boost my knowledge. I've just found out it only costs £50 to make!"

Sales Bloke "Aye. That's correct. Ysee? Yer learnin' already!"

:)
 
Thank gawd!

Tim will be thankful his company's not heading to the poor house after all.

Cancel those soup lines at the Cupertino Campus right now!
 
Unfortunately nothing is going to fix the stupidity of the average person out there.

This right here. The amount that this is true is staggering and somewhat sad. What's worse is that in this Information Age the volume of tragically stupid is actually increasing at alarming rates. Probably partly because of misinformation and also largely a consequence of a devolving societal construct as mass regression lays the foundation for an eventual and inevitable feudal wasteland.
 
Damn, half a Terabyte in the watch....my iPad only has 32gigs and it cost twice as much!!
 
I really hope you apple watch people feel like fools now. That's pretty much rape at those profit margins. ..... Those poor wallets. Won't someone please think of the wallets?

I you have to "think" in your wallet it is very evident that you are not an Apple user.
 
Designer Sunglasses Anyone?

For comparison, how much do you think it costs Gucci or Coach to make a pair of $200 designer sunglasses?

We're not in Kansas anymore.
 
Before everyone goes nuts, remember R&D costs need to be recouped.

That not only includes the R&D for the components, but also for the software.

Obviously they are selling millions of them so some of us think it's worth it and that's what I don't like about the component cost breakdown.

Half the people on here see that it cost them $83.70 in parts and think the watch should be priced no higher than $99.
 
IHS's breakdown is sloppy and rushed as usual.

For instance, it claims $7.20 for flash storage AND "SDRAM - 512MB LPDDR3". According to iFixIt's S1 x-ray, Apple Watch uses 512MB SRAM, which is A LOT MORE expensive than SDRAM.
 
You do realize that "figuring out how best to assemble" isn't nearly the only money Apple spent developing the Watch, right? Software development. (Do you know how much software engineers make? The answer is a lot.) Marketing. Research and development. Sales training.

Apple spent and is spending a lot of money on the Watch—a sum almost certainly in the hundreds of millions of dollars, perhaps even billions. I don't think they'll ever say it, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if it's their lowest-margin introductory price for a new product line ever.

We already know the Watch is the cheapest first-generation product line for Apple:

Macintosh (1984): $2,495
iPod (2001): $399
iPhone (2007): $599
iPad (2010): $499
Apple Watch (2015): $349

Apple TV??????
 
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