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Most likely this. All those sensors must have destroyed battery life.

Judging by my little ipod 6th generation all those sensors is a lot to ask of that tiny battery to power (even just being an ipod with a battery that tiny with no wifi/blutooth it sux battery quick. And it is a lot more sensitive to things that drain more power, even if it is just a little more power. Things like volume you play at or what headsets it is powering make a huge difference in power life).
 
And it does look like crap. Looks like something you could put two quarters into a dispenser and turn the knob and that pops out in a little plastic globe.

No thanks.

Even posters on The Verge (who clearly are not Watch fans) think this device looks 'meh' in real life. Now that every Android OEM seems to be going circular we'll be going from 'wow, cool!' to generic and everywhere in a year.
 
Haha, disguised as a Samsung watch. It would be funny to see what the hardcore Apple fans would say about an iWatch with a Samsung logo. :D
 
Here's that Huawei watch in real life.

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I'm sorry but I don't think anyone is going to mistake that for a premium men's watch. Apple's watch will stand out because it doesn't look like someone tried to copy a luxury watch on a budget. I'm not saying Apple's approach is better but all these Android OEM watches are starting to look the same now.

Bingo. I currently wear an Omega watch, and the last thing I'd want is a smart watch that resembles some $150 watch from the jewelry counter at Macy's. I like that the Apple Watch isn't trying to to look like a cheap analogue watch.
 
I still think Apple Watch is the worst product Apple has launched in recent years. There is nothing separating it from the Google Lineup of premium smart watches. In fact, the Google line up - 360 & now the Huawei - even looks lightyears better than the Apple Watch.

  • Come on, you know everyone has different tastes. Many people are commending Apple for its design of the Apple watch.
  • The round examples that you pasted in your post have all been slammed for being awkward in usage, due to the fact that text and information does not display well on round screens. Apple chose the right option here with a rectangular screen for the specific use of the watch.
  • By the end of this year Apple will likely have sold more smartwatches than all other smartwatch manufacturers combined. In that case it would mean that your opinion about the design being worse than the Android watches is a minority opinion.
 
This is an interesting video as it shows off the Web OS LG watch, and if you remember, we had a very high quality rumoured Apple Watch mock up on this site that showed the same sort of interface, which was utterly wrong to the direction Apple did take, the mock up predicted a round watch for a start. Anyway you can see perhaps what might have been with the Apple Watch?

And was obviously wrong, too. A round display is nothing more than a sop to the watch snobs who believe it has to be an imitation of a traditional watch or it's an automatic no-go design. Starting with a blank slate to design (which Apple always does), the logical solution for a wrist wearable is a rectangle.
 
And was obviously wrong, too. A round display is nothing more than a sop to the watch snobs who believe it has to be an imitation of a traditional watch or it's an automatic no-go design. Starting with a blank slate to design (which Apple always does), the logical solution for a wrist wearable is a rectangle.

I would leave that to the customer to deceide .
 
Yes, but you fail to see the substantive difference.

Samsung mimicked Apple product for actual product because they didn't have an original idea of there own at the time.

Apple is putting it's product in a Samsung case as a "trojan horse" so that no one notices it's an Apple test mule. Apple isn't copying Samsung design to sell product, just hide.

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That's what she said. :D

P.S. the user has the option of multiple style faces. Or had you not really don't any research on the Apple Watch yet? I don't think going into power save mode is going to change the face. That would be silly.

I get the difference, just never thought I would see the say Apple would hide behind a samsung.

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Totally not even remotely close to the same thing.

One poaches actual tech/features/design cues, the other uses one as a disguise.

As long as its justified in your head. Just cannot see it happening under jobs.
 
I own a version of just about every Apple product made the past 10 years.

I fail to see a reason to own an Apple Watch. Hopefully they can convince me.

For me, it is having satnav where I don't have to have my phone on view, especially in a city I don't know. You can always see tourists walking around using their phones to navigate and they're just asking to have it nabbed, or be robbed because they're tourists. Having the watch guide you by taptic feedback whether you're walking, or even if you're riding a bike like I do regularly will be very helpful even in my own town because I walk and ride a lot but I also travel frequently so this one feature is high on my reasons to want the watch.
 
I get the difference, just never thought I would see the say Apple would hide behind a samsung.



Why? It makes a great disguise because the tech paparazzi is looking to hard at Samsung watches. Very similar to how they test the next iPhone in the current iPhone shell. Big difference between "hiding behind" and "disguising." Also Apple's doing so is a clever jab at Samsung; not a compliment.
 
Nearly two years ago, the company experimented with advanced health monitoring sensors that tracked blood pressure and stress, among other variables. Many of those experiments were abandoned more than 18 months ago after the sensors proved unreliable and cumbersome, these people said.

Maybe some were, but obviously other sensors were not.

Clearly all health items were not abandoned by mid 2013, as Apple was still hiring health sensor experts like crazy all the way through at least Spring 2014.

All the indications are that Apple was working on, and continues to work on, new sensors.
 
As I recall, 80% of power on the iPhone is powered by the screen. After that, GPS is the next biggest consumer at 16%. Then cellular at 3%. Everything else is a rounding error (but of those rounding errors, Wifi is highest.)

So after running the screen, the next most power intensive tasks are related to using radios, and the longer distance the signal has to travel, the more power it requires. Since the Apple Watch only uses NFC and Bluetooth for radios, I don't think either of those will be a major power draw. I feel like the Apple Watch will devote 95% of power to the screen, ~2% to each of those radios, and everything else will be a rounding error.

Maybe my memory of how much different components consume on the iPhone is wrong and someone can correct me. I seem to recall it being in the Stanford iOS Programming course, when talking about how to make your app consume as little power as possible (it boiled down to not having frivolous radio communication.)
Problem with general rules is that the consumption of the different radios has varied a lot between different models (with a clear downward tendency except when adding new functionality like 4G).

The iPhone 6 can play video for 11 hours. I can run down the battery using the GPS radio faster than that (I'd say in about half that time). I've noticed this most when using the Glympse app that is using the GPS essentially constantly while sending out your location (well, not literally constantly but with very short intervals).
 
I wonder how much it can do in the power reserve mode.

Time only seems like such an arbitrary limit. Time only still involves running the screen, which, if I had to guess, is by far the biggest power consumer within the Apple Watch.

As I recall, 80% of power on the iPhone is powered by the screen. After that, GPS is the next biggest consumer at 16%. Then cellular at 3%. Everything else is a rounding error (but of those rounding errors, Wifi is highest.)

So after running the screen, the next most power intensive tasks are related to using radios, and the longer distance the signal has to travel, the more power it requires. Since the Apple Watch only uses NFC and Bluetooth for radios, I don't think either of those will be a major power draw. I feel like the Apple Watch will devote 95% of power to the screen, ~2% to each of those radios, and everything else will be a rounding error.

Which means a power reserve mode, while making some slight sense on a phone (stretch the battery by 25% by turning off radios), it makes little sense on the Apple Watch (stretch the battery by 6% by turning off radios.)

Maybe my memory of how much different components consume on the iPhone is wrong and someone can correct me. I seem to recall it being in the Stanford iOS Programming course, when talking about how to make your app consume as little power as possible (it boiled down to not having frivolous radio communication.)

I don't agree with some of your numbers. Radios typically take much more percentage of power than low single digits. Particularly if you consider the fact that you can leave your iPhone screen off for an entire day and drain 25% of battery. Cellular radio drain varies greatly from low (when you have 4 or 5 bars) to very high (when LTE struggles to get a signal). Wifi and Bluetooth are much lower power but remember, Apple Watch will be constantly connecting to iPhone via Bluetooth for messages, emails, apps which will draw a fair amount of power over the course of a day without any screen time.

On the other hand, the screen on Apple Watch will have a minimum power draw because it's not designed to be on all or even for a few hours a day. So while I'm sure the Apple Watch screen draws a lot of power, it is not expected to be on for more than 10-20 minutes total each day for typical users.

It's all about typical usage habits and these are not expected to be anything like iPhone.
 
Maybe some were, but obviously other sensors were not.

Clearly all health items were not abandoned by mid 2013, as Apple was still hiring health sensor experts like crazy all the way through at least Spring 2014.

All the indications are that Apple was working on, and continues to work on, new sensors.

Yep. It's doubtful Apple has abandoned this sensor work.
 
...Apple Watch is coming a bit later than originally hoped due to technical challenges that were likely exacerbated by the loss of several engineers working on the project.

That seems unlikely. The only guy mentioned is a software guy and the technical challenges seem to be primarily in solving unique hardware problems.
 
Wow! A watch that has a time only feature. That can survive not being recharged for more than a yea ... erm .. mon ... Week ... Ok then ... Day.

How can it NOT succeed?

:p
 
For copying the design of the Samsung watch to hide their own design. For falsely leading others to think it was a Samsung watch. For intentionally using Samsung's design in a knock off manner. :p

None of these will hold up at all, because none of the devices were sold and all of them were used only for internal purposes.

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Wow! A watch that has a time only feature. That can survive not being recharged for more than a yea ... erm .. mon ... Week ... Ok then ... Day.

How can it NOT succeed?

:p

It will likely have more chance of succeeding than your attempt at semi-funny sarcasm. :p
 
As I recall, 80% of power on the iPhone is powered by the screen. After that, GPS is the next biggest consumer at 16%. Then cellular at 3%. Everything else is a rounding error (but of those rounding errors, Wifi is highest.)

The Apple Watch has a much smaller screen than the iPhone, therefore much less power. Not sure how much updating the screen at 60fps costs; that can go down to 1fps. And I think the motion sensor will be running and decide when to turn the screen on depending on how you hold the watch.

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If you see an Apple employee leaving behind a Samsung-looking watch in a bar, grab it and run!

Apart from the fact that grabbing lost items and running away with them is theft.
 
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