Apple Watch vs the industry

Discussion in 'Apple Watch' started by FlatCable, Mar 17, 2015.

  1. FlatCable, Mar 17, 2015
    Last edited: Mar 18, 2015

    FlatCable macrumors member

    Mar 17, 2015
    So much is said about Apple Watch's price... but nobody seems to be comparing the features... :rolleyes:


    I think that for $350/$399, the price is right...
  2. Lennyvalentin macrumors 65816


    Apr 25, 2011
    Seems to me whomever made that comparison (you?) adjusted the list to ensure :apple:Watch got the most amount of green boxes. :p

    Pulse meter with lenses? :rolleyes: Scroll wheel as a feature? Why not mention standard watch band compatibility instead (red box for the Watch on that one, without 3rd party lugs to enable it.)

    Also, the weight might be off. Don't those other watches include the band? The stated figures for the Watch is for just the body. Elastomer band is as much as an additional 51g.

    Also, it does not really have wifi either, as wifi capability is just to peer-to-peer with your iphone when bluetooth range is insufficient, not connect to a regular wifi network via an access point.
  3. AleXXXa macrumors 6502


    Feb 22, 2015
    Exactly. Reminds me of this photo:
  4. FlatCable thread starter macrumors member

    Mar 17, 2015
    Then name the features missing?

    I tried to put all the possible features, like GPS and (which only the Sony has), or LTE (which currently only the Samsung has)

    Yes, pulse meter with lenses, without lenses, not having the LED's in full contact, will make erroneous readings, many users report bad readings with sweaty skin or hairy skin. All others are missing, is that the problem?

    Yes, all others are missing it. Sorry

    Why not mentioning Apple's quick release straps? Which you can, as you said, put and adapter for standard 20/22/watever millimeter straps?


    All watches without the band

    Or you can switch to whatever you like. Don't you? Just like any watch.


    You can walk around in your house and don't lose connection because it uses Wifi



    I did not hide anything.

    I'm not a liar.
  5. TallManNY macrumors 601


    Nov 5, 2007
    Neat graphic. Very informative. Lots of options out there. But I suspect the apple watch will outsell the rest combined by a significant amount.
  6. AbeFrohman macrumors 6502


    Mar 18, 2011
    Easy. Nobody called you a liar - It's just that a graphic can appear skewed based on the criteria. It's an interesting comparison chart.
  7. ayasinsk macrumors regular

    Apr 29, 2008
    I would add pebble time steel to the list along with 10 day battery life, always on display, iOS/android compatibility, water proof.
  8. kdarling macrumors P6


    Jun 9, 2007
    First university coding class = 47 years ago
    I thought the Apple Watch does not have a barometric sensor.
  9. VFC macrumors 6502a

    Feb 6, 2012
    SE PA.
    You forgot:
    1-Continuous HR monitoring
    2-Always on display
    3-Leather or metal band standard feature
    4-Cross platform compatibility (iOS, Android, Win8)
  10. fitshaced macrumors 68000


    Jul 2, 2011
    Very convenient to exclude others that are competition. The Fenix 3 and the Wiithings smart watches should be included as they do target the same demographics.
  11. FlatCable thread starter macrumors member

    Mar 17, 2015

    Didn't include battery life, because there's no standard and independent benchmark.


    1 - Software feature
    2 - Software feature
    3 - See picture, there are many kinds of leather, many kinds of rubber, not directly comparable
    4 - Wich one is?


    No, it's not very convinent.

    The Fenix 3 is application specific, it lacks many things like a regular smart watch does, like NFC, or Apps, or an high resolution screen, or a thin profile. But has many many features that are important for what it is designed.

    No. Makes no sense, you can make a table if you want.
  12. aimbdd macrumors 6502a

    Dec 10, 2008
    East Cost
    Looks like a nice chart to me! I can really think of any other important features to add to compare.
  13. eoblaed macrumors 68020


    Apr 21, 2010
    Well, the biggest features aren't what it can do on its own, but how it interfaces with the phone. The stuff I'm looking forward to the most are those ... not the size of the screen or any of the other checkpoints. So, in reality, it doesn't matter how many other checkpoints the 'other guys' have, they're not going to, for example, let me use Apple Pay through the watch. :p
  14. The Doctor11 macrumors 603

    The Doctor11

    Dec 15, 2013
    New York
    The :apple: Watch doesn't have wireless charging though...
  15. fitshaced macrumors 68000


    Jul 2, 2011
    All you've done is list what is important to you in a smart watch. Things like touchscreen, NFC etc don't define a smart watch. A smart watch is technically a watch that has connectivity.

    Also, the Garmin Fenix 3 is as thin as the Apple watch. It has less dependency on the phone too (and works with both Android and IOS). A smart watch it certainly is.
  16. BvizioN macrumors 601


    Mar 16, 2012
    Manchester, UK
    This is the thing, people like to portray things on an extremly silly way.

    For example..... video call was rubish on most phones and on the top of that carriers were charging up to £2 a minute. Apple changed all that.

    Surely Samsung must be heading to a stone age with it's brand new Galaxy S6 which lacks removable memory cards :rolleyes:

    MMS was very expensive therough carries also, and thanks to that stone age comparable fisrt iPhone, now we have countless apps you can use to send and receive multimedia files.
  17. slenpree macrumors 6502a


    Apr 13, 2010
    Ars technica confirmed the wifi on the watch can join your home network.
  18. Lloydbm41 Suspended


    Oct 17, 2013
    Central California
    Wireless charging? Uh, sure. If you mean that you have to take the 'wireless' charging device everywhere you go AND since it uses inductive charging, it might as well be wired, then sure, go ahead and call it wireless. If it had used a wireless standard like Qi, then I'd give you credit.

    Body weight? I see you used the aluminum version for the lightest you could get. Why not show all weights? Maybe because the gold version is going to weigh half a pound?

    Scroll wheel? LOL. You are trying to hard to find something to make the Apple Watch look better and it shows with this category. Might as well make a category saying "Round Watch Face". Then give Apple a red box. See how stupid that looks.

    NFC? Should be red. Just like the iPhone. It isn't fully capable. I think you should change the category name to wireless payments.
  19. thekeyring macrumors 68040

    Jan 5, 2012
    That's true but how often does this happen against Apple?

    With everyone competing on processor cores, screen density and size, most smartphone comparison charts make iPhone look terrible!
  20. Lennyvalentin macrumors 65816


    Apr 25, 2011
    To be fair, even magnetic resonance tech is only effective inside a constrained volume of space/at a short distance, so you're always going to be chained to a charger, attached by a wire. Wireless is basically ******** anyway, you still need the wall wart, the power cable, and a charger, and on top it wastes power and costs more money compared to a simple cable and connector.

    Apple wireless payments only works if you live in the united states though. That's a bit of a bummer.
  21. Julien macrumors G4


    Jun 30, 2007
    Yes, it is wireless inductive charging. There are no wires connection it. Apple chose to use MageSafe to affix the charger to the back for convince and a faster charge. However you could still charge the :apple:Watch with the charging puck an inch away. It would just be a slower charge.
  22. VFC, Mar 18, 2015
    Last edited: Mar 18, 2015

    VFC macrumors 6502a

    Feb 6, 2012
    SE PA.
    1-Continuous HR monitoring and 2-Continuous Display On are features that are possible for smart watches with higher capacity batteries; my Surge has both features with a battery life of over four days.

    3-Leather or Metal Band Standard; point being a number of smart watches come with higher quality bands without the need to pay a premium to upgrade.

    4-My Surge can receive notifications from an iPhone, plus the fitness app for the Surge is compatible with the iPhone. I don't believe the Apple Watch will receive notifications from any Android or Windows phones nor will Apple be releasing a compatible Android or Windows fitness app.
  23. kdarling macrumors P6


    Jun 9, 2007
    First university coding class = 47 years ago
    Repeating this.

    Link, please.
  24. camtechman56 macrumors regular

    Feb 18, 2015
    Warren, pa.
    I had sociology classes also, and I know how to make info reflect what I want it to. your chart really has no valid meaning. most of these watches or earlier versions are in use by the public now. where did you confirm the apple watch features, and how they function. I will be buying one, but I will confirm for myself, and though Apple products are usually dependable I never give a good review of anything until I try it myself.
  25. Runt888 macrumors 6502a

    Nov 17, 2008
    I'm a fairly voracious Ars reader and I haven't seen this. Please post the link.

    Edit - if you mean this link, it doesn't confirm that the watch connects to a wifi network.

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