I haven’t tried to go 5GHz only for a while, might try again. There’s always one pesky old device that it turns out I still need. Lowest common denominator wins again.
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Apple Wi-Fi 6E Support: What iPhone and Mac Users Need to Know
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I haven’t tried to go 5GHz only for a while, might try again. There’s always one pesky old device that it turns out I still need. Lowest common denominator wins again.
Yes, especially the stuff like e-readers and robot vacuums. I still have 2.4GHz in use, but again it has its own SSID and is limited to single channel (20MHz). All the rest is in the 5GHz band or direct on ethernet.
Good point actually, I forgot last time I re-arranged I put all that stuff on the guest network anyway.
so many problems with wifi 6e and iphone etc. Its not really worth upgrading yet unless you have a old ass router now. just google iphone wont connect to wifi 6e to see what im talking about
In my experience, in a not particularly wifi congested area, I didn't find it to be much better than using a repeater. The latency added was slightly less but it noticeably reduced my bandwidth. Plugged the exact same AP into wired backhaul and it works so much better.
This was on an Eero system that doesn't give you any options, but it confirmed in the app that it was using mesh.
Wifi7 is currently busted on all Wifi7 routers available on the market. Most of the routers don't support MLO (Multi-Link Operation) and even Intel BE200 m.2 modules available on aliexpress and mouser don't have MLO support in latest drivers. Hell, Wifi7 standard itself is not finalized so no point in testing beta stuff. Hopefully things improve by fall next year when Apple launches Wifi7 products and router companies throw existing wifi7 router users under the bus and force them to buy newer Certified devices. Wonderful world we live in. 😆
I mean it works, it's just one of those things like going from Bluetooth to wired headphones.
We need Apple to bring back an AirPort like device with Wifi 6e or 7 and HomeKit hub support.
lol yea always happens. I mean “technically “ the hardware revisions for wifi7 are done so don’t think the hardware will change but no 100% guarantee I mean with 8011n it was a disaster because the hardware changed and home devices had to get replaced. With the specs after it was better like 6 and 6e they came out first and I don’t think the hardware had to be replaced but I could be wrong.
Mesh is a good option for people if they don’t mind the 1/2 throughout hit on each hop. (I mean with devices like Cisco it’s not as bad a half but good rule of thumb). I just paid for a guy to run a home Ethernet run for the upstairs AP. I stopped using home stuff long time ago
Better off using separate AP with router like UniFi
generally, Unifi and their Access Points.
Problem is some are better in certain houses than other... it's all down to the building construction and materials. I've tried TP-Link, Orbi, Tenda, Amplifi, Velop and in my last house Velop worked great....and the others didn't ( hadn't tried amplify by then ) and in the new house it's not so good... but Amplifi is awesome.
I am now in the process of switching to proper Unifi with the 6e Enterprise Access Points and some of the other door stuff.
Mainly as it can run a load of VLANs and it's easy to manage a HomeKit smart home network with it.
Short Answer Try Amplifi...
Amplfi / Unifi is run by the ex Airport team. They have a new version of this comin out soon - under the Unifi name.
Well the main point is are you going to notice really?
1 Gb connections are common now... but that's more than most islands have for hundreds of homes...
it's about 40x 4K Streams of video!
I ustilise it for Work due to video and 3d animation work... but other than that it's overkill for pretty much any web viewing etc. 100mb is still great for most people.
I absolutely second this, at least when living in a dense urban environment. 5GHz covers my entire apartment but blocks most neighborhood networks, so it's super stable even though 2.4GHz theoretically has better range. The neighbor's network also get the higher range and thus it always ends up sharing the bandwidth.
Even HomePods started working better in 5GHz-only. And I feel better having a separate password I can put into those small iot devices.
But when I get 6GHz, I'll probably try throwing 5 and 6 together into one SSID, though.
Almost every HomeKit device in my house runs on 2.4GHz only. Wall switches, controllable outlets, even the doorbell. Adding such devices, still sold this way today, to HomeKit requires either going to every Wi-Fi base station and temporarily disabling the 5GHz (and upcoming 6GHz) radios, or the more logical approach of using a separate SSID. I do the latter, and will continue to do so. Putting everything on the same SSID … not going to happen.
I must have the luck of the Irish.
Three routers over the years, 2 pc and the latest for Mac and all have been a breeze.
The way apple implentmented 6E is confusing. It you have the radio SSID separate, apple devices tend to not scan for them or even seen them until you wait for an extra period of time before the 6G shows up and even then you cant connect to it always, meanwhile a 6E android and windows computer connect to it all the time consistently.
Just bought a TP-Link mesh system and really like it. It is much better (and cheaper) than the Netgear Orbi setup it replaced. Happened to go with a 6E variant, only because it came with a 2.5G ethernet connection. No 6E devices in the house, so I am using the 6gHz band as the dedicated wireless backhaul between router/satellite. No complaints at all.
One of the improvements with 6E I believe and definitely with 7, is supposed to be that APs that aren't on the same network can still talk to each other and mutually negotiate better power levels and channel distributions.
Right now it's like a crowded lunchroom with everyone just getting louder and louder to be heard at all. If everyone could just agree to speak quietly it would work better for everyone.
yea it seems apple taks a little but longer but for me nothing to significant. I mean all devices should scan 24,5,6 (PSC Only) in that order. for 6E there are to many 20 mh channels so they only scan select channels, so i fyour device base channel is not a PSC channel it will be an issue. if the base is not a PSC channel , it will take longer to see because the AP has to steer it to the 6
Just depends whether you're more familiar with water heaters or wifi hardware. I've been lucky enough to have not much trouble with either. Just putting in a new one always seems to do the trick.
This happens even with wifi 4,5,6 etc as long as the system can do it. Cisco calls it Auto RF but you need systems like that that can analyze the data and tell the AP to adjust. wifi 6e uses something called BSS Coloring which allows it to basically transmit in the same channel if the other detected network has a different color (numerical ID)
Yeah I've seen those settings before but they all seem to do their own scanning and decide on their own still. I believe it was something along the lines of color coding they call it on the newer versions. I'll have to look up the details but the negotiation between unrelated devices is supposed to be further improved.