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And they're all thicker than the iPhone.

Who cares? Phones should be a little thicker. The case adds thickness anyway, so a mm or two isn't a big deal.

I did just fine bringing my Anker Powerwave with me on vacation last month. My car mount is a wireless charger. And since I have an iPhone, my battery generally lasts all day anyway, unlike an android phone.

You're nuts. Most people don't bring their wireless chargers with them everywhere. My Galaxy S7 has notoriously bad battery life, but newer Android phones like the S9+ and Note 9 easily beat the iPhone on battery life. The reality is that any high-end smartphone today is going to have to charge during the day during periods of heavy use (i.e. traveling). The only smartphones I can think of that might stand a chance of surviving a day of travel are something like the Moto E5 Plus, which has a 5000mah battery on a 720p screen.

My wired charger is an Anker 30w USB-PD charger. Which has a USB-C port on the block which brings me to...

That's cool. What's your point? You're getting 18W out of that thing, TOPS.

Lightning is smaller. Here's a pretty drawing.

Not inside the phone. That was already established previously in the thread, and again in the post after yours. Other than it not being a standard, Lightning is the technically superior connector for a mobile device, and most likely the most durable. USB-C is pretty good too, and is MUCH more durable than Micro-USB, which was just a general poor quality PITA.

I honestly don't see a big problem with Apple sticking with Lightning and Android devices (hopefully) all converging on USB-C. Some are still shipping with Micro-USB, which is lousy, but all the mid-range and high-end stuff is on USB-C now. As it is right now, I have 3 sets of charging cables everywhere, and they're not going anywhere.
 
By let that means--we'll take your money to license our name for your 3rd-party products.
Yes, was thinking the same thing - how nice of them to allow me to manufacture cables that I pay you a hefty Mafia tax for the privilege!

How sweet of Apple! Always giving...
 
Is it even the chip in the cable? I thought it might just be software.
Yes, believe it or not there is a chip in the tiny connector. You cannot just make a cable that supplies power to the right pins. There's actually authentication going on. This is to ensure that Apple keeps the incredibly lucrative cable revenue stream at a peak.
 
Who cares? Phones should be a little thicker. The case adds thickness anyway, so a mm or two isn't a big deal.

False. Going by the rest of this statement, I assume you're one of those... Otterbox people. o_O

You're nuts. Most people don't bring their wireless chargers with them everywhere. My Galaxy S7 has notoriously bad battery life, but newer Android phones like the S9+ and Note 9 easily beat the iPhone on battery life. The reality is that any high-end smartphone today is going to have to charge during the day during periods of heavy use (i.e. traveling). The only smartphones I can think of that might stand a chance of surviving a day of travel are something like the Moto E5 Plus, which has a 5000mah battery on a 720p screen.

I don't bring my chargers everywhere. Because I have an iPhone. Which even an SE can outlast any robotphone that doesn't have a 4000+ mah battery. I specifically stated that I traveled just fine with my wireless charger because I put it in my bag along with my clothes for a week. Hence I said vacation. Again, I have an iPhone. I don't need to charge more than over night on all but the most intense days.

That's cool. What's your point? You're getting 18W out of that thing, TOPS.

And? It charges everything I own, as well as my friend's MacBook. One charger to rule them all.

Not inside the phone. That was already established previously in the thread, and again in the post after yours. Other than it not being a standard, Lightning is the technically superior connector for a mobile device, and most likely the most durable. USB-C is pretty good too, and is MUCH more durable than Micro-USB, which was just a general poor quality PITA.

I honestly don't see a big problem with Apple sticking with Lightning and Android devices (hopefully) all converging on USB-C. Some are still shipping with Micro-USB, which is lousy, but all the mid-range and high-end stuff is on USB-C now. As it is right now, I have 3 sets of charging cables everywhere, and they're not going anywhere.

I don't see any proof, just hyperbole. And just like me, I also have to maintain 3 sets of cables. 3 Micro USB that might as well have been permanently attached to their wireless chargers, a USB-C PD cable for my gf's Essential, and a USB-C - Lightning cable. And none of those cables travel. There's an appropriate cable for each respective device at work, home, and in the car. Easy.
 
False. Going by the rest of this statement, I assume you're one of those... Otterbox people. o_O

I actually have a Speck case right now on my S7, and while it's a bit thinner than I might like, it does seem to work, as my phone has hit the deck a few times this past week alone, it's already over 2 years old, and it doesn't have a single crack in the screen. I used to have an Otterbox on my iPhone 4s, but they have gotten a LOT thinner than the Otterboxes of 5 years ago. They aren't much thicker than most other cases at this point.

I don't bring my chargers everywhere. Because I have an iPhone. Which even an SE can outlast any robotphone that doesn't have a 4000+ mah battery. I specifically stated that I traveled just fine with my wireless charger because I put it in my bag along with my clothes for a week. Hence I said vacation. Again, I have an iPhone. I don't need to charge more than over night on all but the most intense days.

Try traveling and using your phone for travel-related stuff like GPS, traffic, travel info, Google Maps, Spotify, etc. Anything will die partway through the day, and the iPhone will die sooner than the Galaxy Note 9. Wireless charging simply isn't practical in many situations. You're in the tiny, tiny minority, it's a waste to bring a wireless charger when a lightning cable would work just fine for charging on the go, in fact much better than a wireless charger. You need wired charging when using the phone as a GPS, for example. Even if you brought a wireless charging cradle, they can't keep up with a phone that's doing music, GPS, and MHS. Been there, done that, it doesn't work. It went back to Amazon because the whole thing is a flawed idea. That, and it heats the phone up a lot, which is the last thing you want when it's already at risk of overheating on your dashboard, potentially in the sun while charging for hours at a time.

And? It charges everything I own, as well as my friend's MacBook. One charger to rule them all.

We're nowhere close to one charger ruling them all. Some USB-C laptops need at least a 45W charger, as they use a higher voltage. There are multiple quick charge systems out there, i.e. Qualcomm QC versus USB-C PD, some phones use one, some use the other. Unfortunately, we're nowhere near one charger ruling them all, but standardizing on USB is a good first step.

I don't see any proof, just hyperbole. And just like me, I also have to maintain 3 sets of cables. 3 Micro USB that might as well have been permanently attached to their wireless chargers, a USB-C PD cable for my gf's Essential, and a USB-C - Lightning cable. And none of those cables travel. There's an appropriate cable for each respective device at work, home, and in the car. Easy.

Look at where the pins are. Makes perfect sense. I have 4 Micro-USB, two Lightning, 2 USB-C, a Fitbit thing, and a USB-A port at home for charging, when I travel, I usually bring at least 2 USB-C, four Micro-USB, and sometimes a Lightning depending on who and what are traveling with me. Most external battery banks still use Micro-USB, and my camera and it's charger use Micro-USB. I also have 2 Micro-USB, a USB-C, and a Lightning in the car with my 4-port PowerIQ charger, so that I can charge basically anything that needs it there.
 
Why is this somehow never a problem for Android phones? Or is it?

As far as I know Android phones with USB-C all follow the USB-C standard so they can work with any charger and anything cheap USB-C cable.
Apple devices used custom charging first for lightning, none of those charge speeds are in line with the USB-C standard, now they've added a USB-C connector to the other end it needs to do lots of work to ensure that any third party USB-C device feeds it with the correct voltage and current.
 
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Can anyone tell me what the difference between the C48 and C89 tips will be? They are introducing this next year. Will cables with the C48 tip become redundant when the C89 is released?
 
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