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Apple Wins Injunction Barring U.S. Sales of Samsung Galaxy Nexus Phone

iansilv said:
FRAND anybody?
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FRAND only applies if Samsung or any company wanted their patents to be included to the development of a standard and such patents are subsequently consider essential.

If samsung never pledge LTE patents they hold to be used, they are not obligated to license them to anyone under any terms.
 
tqwcs said:
Apple has managed to have a bogus patent issued - the patent, as far as I can tell, covers any sort of "search-as-you-type" system. Any sort. The Firefox awesome bar, Android search (every Android device that exists), Google Instant, any webpage with javascript autocomplete... you're all violating Apple's patent. And if Apple can find judges as friendly as Ms. Koh, all of these products can be taken off the market indefinitely.
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And your expertise in patents comes from where ?
 
ethana said:
Judges don't make these decisions because they love Apple. They make them because they follow the law.
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Feels more like they try to interpret the law. One judge may think Apple is right, another judge will not.
 
LagFighter said:
Who is in the right? Well, I stand by my belief that Google did directly rip off of a lot of core software technologies in iPhone. That said, Apple is violating the spirit of competition with this lawsuit.
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I'm going to have to disagree Apple killing competition here. How can someone who blatantly copies a product even be considered a competitor when they come to market with something that looks and acts almost exactly like the original?

If the product in question is an obvious knockoff of the original, then it should be taken off the market.

You said it yourself, Google did in fact rip off a lot from the iPhone and I agree with that.

Personally, when I of competition, I think of someone who can bring an original idea to the table rather than ripping off the original and calling the copy an original.
 
abnorm said:
All Samsung has done since the beginning is copy other's ideas. No innovation whatsoever. I hope their factories burn to the ground.
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Oh so all the r&D they have put into lcd fabrication plants and cpu fabs is not innovation. Those things are 100 times more involved than anything Apple is doing. Not only that but they also make many other things for other industries.
 
dsass600 said:
I don't understand why anyone here is happy about this. Pro Apple or not, this is hurting you lol. Less competition means less of a push to innovate and higher prices. Well, probably not higher prices but you get my point. This just hurts all consumers in the end, so I don't think anyone should be for the notion.
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Bingo. Someone gets it. I am frankly sick to death of all these stupid suits and counter suits. It is a massive waste of everyone's time and money and we the customer, bear the cost (and I say this as a guy who owns many iPods, iPhones, iPads and various Macs).
 
iMikeT said:
I'm going to have to disagree Apple killing competition here. How can someone who blatantly copies a product even be considered a competitor when they come to market with something that looks and acts almost exactly like the original?

If the product in question is an obvious knockoff of the original, then it should be taken off the market.

You said it yourself, Google did in fact rip off a lot from the iPhone and I agree with that.

Personally, when I of competition, I think of someone who can bring an original idea to the table rather than ripping off the original and calling the copy an original.
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Have you ever touched a Galaxy Nexus?

Has Google copied and pasted Apple's code? I hate to tell you, but search boxes and icons that open programs on computers are nothing new. Just because a judge went along with it doesn't mean that Apple is not ridiculous or that the laws aren't flawed. More sensible countries don't even allow software patents (and stealing would require actually stealing the code...not writing new code that performs a similar action). If you have any programming experience at all you will see that this is bizarre. Every programmer on earth programs functionality that is universally similar to other functionality all of the time. Who has the patent on "A box displayed on a computer screen within which text can be typed?"

Here is a test you can run on iOS 5: Go to the search box and type the last 4 digits of your phone number. Does it find anything? Yeah, their search from first release through iOS 5 sucks.

I am thankful that no one was into patents and things like that when the Major Scale was invented or music would be completely different.
 
2IS said:
Apple won't win if this goes to trial and it will cost them the $9m bond, whatever money they paid this judge to grant the injunction and Samsugs legal fees not to mention their own.
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$95.7 Million bond to be exact. It's to cover the lost sales for Samsung if Apple was to lose this case. I think this is getting out of hand. iFan or PhanDroid, this isn't good for competition. :cool:
 
So call me crazy but what apple is doing is needed all these people screaming stifling competition or go back to r&d need to really think about this a little closer. So Samsung who has invest exactly Zero dollars in many of the things that make the iPhone look like iPhone yet they decided to clone it try to skate and make a buck off apple. Apple has spent any where from zero to a billion dollars on this feature they deserve there protection and there profits. Samsung is freely allowed to innovate there was nothing stopping them from thinking out side the box like winmo 7 or Symbian like Nokia Instead they went with the easy way out and cloned apple down to icons. That stifles competion cause it is a clone phone it is not a new thing that will push apple or rim or msft to innovate it is just a leach product. The patents you can argue are not just cause it is a simple action I give you that but take it up with the us patent office not apple. If was apple I would sue the pants off google and Samsung and any one else who ripped me off to my face. This talk of anti competative just does not ring true to me. We are smart people but before the iPhone came out on Verizon I was showed a galaxy and told here it is the same as an iPhone and shown the drag to unlock the icons etc. I wonder where he the sales guy got that idea. I was not fooled but several people were while I was in the store. The guy did not say has similar feature said is just like the iPhone and the phone had many features to back up his claim. The droid did not nor did the lg but the Samsung did and it was selling well for them.
 
rdlink said:
Any chance you might accept the fact that maybe you DON'T innovate on it? If Apple invented and patented it, maybe they should be the only ones who get to use it...

Before the iPhone, how many phones (including BB) could do this?
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I don't think you realize how terrible the tech industry would be if everyone was aggressive with and enforced their software patents. There's a software patent for just about *everything*. Software would become a very expensive and risky industry to enter, which would be an economic disaster and kill innovation. It's already bad enough as it is; we really don't need to be encouraging this behavior.
 
Sigh...

I'm not a fan of the Android OS, but I don't feel that this is hurting Apple any. Android is too buggy anyways.
 
Taz Mangus said:
What I find most interesting that for instance Sony managed to make a tablet that is completely different looking then the iPad. Microsoft manages to make a OS that is completely different looking then iOS. Yes it is possible to design and build a OS and a tablet/phone that are unique looking with regard to their competition. This seems to be lost on a lot of people.
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I'll point you to the iOS notification tray and iOS's dictation feature/UI as two examples of iOS taking from Android. Siri also duplicates a lot of functionality that Android already had. This stuff happens all the time and the industry is *better* for it. In the end, *we* win when this happens.

EDIT: To be clear: I'm OK with design patents. But that's not what we're dealing with in this case.
 
adder7712 said:
By cancelling out competition? Nope.
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competition doesn't mean to sit wait and copy off someone: who (Apple) did all the RND work, brought the technology together, wrap in a nice software, invest huge amount of money, develop the hardware software package, goto the public and make them crazy to buy.

And when all is set and everyone knows what to do and how to do it, they start copying. Samsung, Sony, LG, Del,HTC etc etc etc. they are all capable of making better iPhone. They are not ready to take the risk Apple takes.

Study the risk involed in Macbook Air, Who can dare to release something like that, an inferior spec double the cost.

Study Macbook Pro Retina, Huge Risk,pro machine and no serviceable/replaceable parts, no one can attempt it, even after its success no company would dare it till another year or so. Not until they are confident that people will buy that kind of product.

Apples product have components made on earth available to anyone. So dare and make it, why for wait apple to take the risk and make it hit and then jump on the band wagon.

Look at Microsoft, they are struggling with their windows phone, they have worked so hard on it, its original not a copy of iPhone and they are trying their best. Its not easy. Copying is easy. And with all efforts, Windows phone 7 or 7.5 devices wont get windows 8.
iphone 3GS came with 3.0>4.0>5.0>6.0. A lot of work goes in there to make such things. Copying is easy!

I'm not against or for any company, I'm looking at the situation, Samsung is wrong here.
 
abnorm said:
All Samsung has done since the beginning is copy other's ideas. No innovation whatsoever. I hope their factories burn to the ground.
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Very uninformed opinion. Samsung spends on R&D about ten times more than Apple and they have many times more patents than Apple do.
 
iMikeT said:
I'm going to have to disagree Apple killing competition here. How can someone who blatantly copies a product even be considered a competitor when they come to market with something that looks and acts almost exactly like the original?

If the product in question is an obvious knockoff of the original, then it should be taken off the market.

You said it yourself, Google did in fact rip off a lot from the iPhone and I agree with that.

Personally, when I of competition, I think of someone who can bring an original idea to the table rather than ripping off the original and calling the copy an original.
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Please explain to me then why Apple does absolutely nothing to stop the even more blatant knockoffs (replicas) that can be found in every shop in Indonesia, China, etc. They are churned out and sold by the millions. Or is Samsung just a high profile and therefore easy target? :confused:
 
GoodWatch said:
Please explain to me then why Apple does absolutely nothing to stop the even more blatant knockoffs (replicas) that can be found in every shop in Indonesia, China, etc. They are churned out and sold by the millions. Or is Samsung just a high profile and therefore easy target? :confused:
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Ever been in a Chinese court ?

;)
 
I like how everyone is hating on Samsung when there is more Samsung in iPhones, iPads and iPods than any other component that is Apple made. Plus i bet a ton of you have Samsung RAM and Samsung HDTV's and love the crap out of them. Silly kids...
 
I am sure if a WP Samsung device was selling well too, Apple would be going after them also for infringing on patents. It is Microsoftie after all, and Apple wants to be the new Microsoft.
 
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