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Apple Wins Judgement Against Psystar for Mac OS X Copyright Infringement

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Groklaw reports on the outcome of the Apple vs. Psystar case filed on Friday. According to the court documents, Apple's motion for summary judgment on copyright infringement and DMCA violation is granted.
So that means damages ahead for Psystar on the copyright issues just decided on summary judgment, at a minimum. The court asked for briefs on that subject. In short, Psystar is toast. Psystar's only hope now is Florida, and frankly I wouldn't bet the house on that one. Judges notice if you were just found guilty of a similar cause of action in another state.
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Psystar and Apple have been in legal battle after Psystar began selling Mac clones back in April. Psystar provided modified versions of Mac OS X to run on the generic PC hardware. Apple filed suit in July.

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I don't agree with the judgement... Apple is all pissed because someone found a cheaper way to sell their software. I kind of wish Apple was like MS (I'm gonna get killed for this one) and would open their software up to other hardware companies and give consumers some more options.
 
Inevitable result.

I just wonder why Psystar were so blatant in their actions? Did they really expect to win?
 
Psystar deserved it

wgilles said:
I don't agree with the judgement... Apple is all pissed because someone found a cheaper way to sell their software. I kind of wish Apple was like MS (I'm gonna get killed for this one) and would open their software up to other hardware companies and give consumers some more options.
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It's Apple's software, they can do whatever they want with it. The least psystar could have done is asked for permission to use the software. I wouldn't want anyone doing that with my product if I had one. 😱
 
wgilles said:
I don't agree with the judgement... Apple is all pissed because someone found a cheaper way to sell their software. I kind of wish Apple was like MS (I'm gonna get killed for this one) and would open their software up to other hardware companies and give consumers some more options.
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Been there: done that. Apple would go under in a relatively short time with A: complete decimation of their pricier hardware sales (which is what actually makes them money), and B: nowhere near enough royalties from any Mac OS X licensing scheme with the market share that they have. Think about it.
 
wgilles said:
I don't agree with the judgement... Apple is all pissed because someone found a cheaper way to sell their software. I kind of wish Apple was like MS (I'm gonna get killed for this one) and would open their software up to other hardware companies and give consumers some more options.
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They didn't find a cheaper way, they just decided to charge less money. It's not like Apple, a huge international corporation, pays more for Intel chips then Psystar, a small start-up.
 
MorphingDragon said:
What no Type 11 bankruptcy!?
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They already filed for Chapter 11, and a couple months later they emerged. They cannot re-declaire bankruptcy for another 12 months - leaving them open for suing by Psystar’s various debtors.

Its over for them and now Apple has a much stronger defense against future litigation against other companies. No surprise here
 
wgilles said:
I don't agree with the judgement... Apple is all pissed because someone found a cheaper way to sell their software. I kind of wish Apple was like MS (I'm gonna get killed for this one) and would open their software up to other hardware companies and give consumers some more options.
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No, Apple is all pissed because someone is using their software on a non Apple Machine when it isn'y allowed. Apple could do whatever they want with their software that they created.
 
Oh great, someone mad at :apple: since they don't open their software to other manufactures. Apple is not a software only company like MS, they build the hardware and bundle the software. A complete ecosystem. If you want them to be like MS, then I'm sure we all can't wait to have issues with all the crap variations of hardware out in the Windows market that MS tries to support.

MS even acknowledges that Apple doesn't sell software, they sell the whole experience. If you want them to be like MS to have an MS experience then stick with Windows. Enjoy the issues.

Also, look at the history of the Mac Clones that Apple ventured into at one point. Yea, that turned out just great.

Do you really want them to go the MS route? If you do, then we'll all have crapware installed on new machines.

I support MS crap all day long at work, when I come home I just want my machine to work. Thank you MS for your shoddy programming, it keeps me employed.
 
Lucky for Apple

If that lawsuit would have gone through for Pystar, that might have been the downfall of Apple. Part of their marketing is that their software is best-designed for their hardware and vice versa. They can ensure the highest quality of both.

In short, I am glad to see this judgement and happy to see that it is the end of the road for Pystar.
 
wgilles said:
I don't agree with the judgement... Apple is all pissed because someone found a cheaper way to sell their software. I kind of wish Apple was like MS (I'm gonna get killed for this one) and would open their software up to other hardware companies and give consumers some more options.
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hey, its like with music, if someone uses your music (samples it) other way then you intended it, its copyright infringement.
Apple did not intend to use their software otherwise (did not agreed to have it "sampled"), thus you cannot use it legally. i think its only fair...
if someone misused a piece of MY intellectual property, id be pissed too..

iObama said:
Apple can suck it. Greed, greed, greed.
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whatever it is, apple is RIGHT. however theyre greed and evil, they are RIGHT.
 
wgilles said:
I don't agree with the judgement... Apple is all pissed because someone found a cheaper way to sell their software. I kind of wish Apple was like MS (I'm gonna get killed for this one) and would open their software up to other hardware companies and give consumers some more options.
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They weren't selling the software cheaper, or even really selling cheaper systems since the cheapest dual core Psystar was not any cheaper than a Mac mini. They were however filling a hole for the higher performing mid-range ~$800-$1600 quad core desktops.

IMHO Psystar really screwed the Hackintosh scene when they started selling OS X pre-installed on machines. This is the source of the copyright violations they were found guilty of.

If they had just stuck to selling the compatible hardware and unmodified software separately with instructions they would have been able to avoid some of the results of this trial.

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pdjudd said:
They already filed for Chapter 11, and a couple months later they emerged. They cannot re-declaire bankruptcy for another 12 months - leaving them open for suing by Psystar’s various debtors.

Its over for them and now Apple has a much stronger defense against future litigation against other companies. No surprise here
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There's still another case in Florida that hasn't been decided yet. This is why psystar is still selling hackintoshs.
 
NC MacGuy said:
I think that could be said if they were going after Joe Hackintosh but Psystar was doing something that was blatantly illegal on a much grander scale.
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Good point. One person it's whatever but a whole damn company doing, that's pretty much reckless.
 
wgilles said:
I don't agree with the judgement... Apple is all pissed because someone found a cheaper way to sell their software. I kind of wish Apple was like MS (I'm gonna get killed for this one) and would open their software up to other hardware companies and give consumers some more options.
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So what mistakes did the judge make in your opinion?

Did Psystar not make illegal copies of MacOS X?
Did Psystar not create illegal derivatives of MacOS X?
Did Psystar not circumvent Apple's copy protection for MacOS X?
Did Psystar not enable its customers to infringe against Apple's copyright?

iObama said:
Apple can suck it. Greed, greed, greed.
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So what do you think is Psystar's motivation?
 
NC MacGuy said:
I think that could be said if they were going after Joe Hackintosh but Psystar was doing something that was blatantly illegal on a much grander scale.
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Good point. One person it's whatever but a whole damn company making a living off of it, that's really really reckless, bold, but reckless.
 
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