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Re: What about older Macs without Bluetooth built in?

Have you tried any of the pc card bluetooth adapters ? Because, I have tried several non d-link usb bluetooth dongles, and they all work right out of the box. So, I figure a pc card bluetooth adapter might also work right out of the box.
 
Re: Wire free iSight

Originally posted by jaedreth
Isn't iSight supposed to be built into future macs?

Some rumor place was saying that...

I mean, if they made an iPod dock connector like port at the top of displays, the bundled iSight could have a grip that locks it into place in that port. It would come with the computer, but you'd have to snap it into place. Would even work for powerbooks and ibooks if they designed it right. And that patches right through ADC for the external displays.

Now that would be cool.

Jaedreth

Not sure if ADC can handle a firewire-class connection. It would likely take a bit of jiggering in the motherboard and/or video card to get the "USB" signal wires on FW bus instead, and that would break all the existing USB-hub monitors. On the other hand, if Apple were able to get USB2 in ADC (presumably easier than FW) then the iSight could send a USB2 signal down the pipes, and existing hardware would continue to work (just like existing USB 1.1. hubs work fine on a USB 2 source).

Currently, though, USB is inadequate for the high-quality video that iSight targets. ADC only currently includes a USB connection.
 
Originally posted by nagromme
A wireless 2 or 3 button mouse with an iPod scrollwheel (continuous scrolling--no lift-and-continue like a conventional wheel!) would be great.

Stop for a second. Place your hand comfortably on your mouse. Move the tip of your index (or any other) finger in a circular motion. Comfortable? I think not.

Fingers move in/out a lot more naturally than "side-to-side". If Apple were to provide a "continuous track" for scrolling, it would need to be elliptical, with most motion being forward/back and very little side-to-side motion required.

Yes, were Apple to provide a circular track pad one could just use the "right" side of it as one would use an existing scroll wheel ... but then 75% of the control surface is never used (and gets in the way).

Also, how would one handle the "third button press" with a track pad instead of push-able wheel? Apple doesn't like the idea of "tapping" on a motion-sensitive track pad (which, BTW, is VERY annoying on Apple laptops after having "learned" how to use Windows trackpads). Would there be a button in the middle of your little track? If so, can that track be small enough to be used comfortably (I'm thinking a max of 3/4"/2cm from end to end, half that wide) and still allow the center button to be targetted?
 
Re: Re: What about older Macs without Bluetooth built in?

Originally posted by cristiana
Have you tried any of the pc card bluetooth adapters ? Because, I have tried several non d-link usb bluetooth dongles, and they all work right out of the box. So, I figure a pc card bluetooth adapter might also work right out of the box.

Yes I did actually, I tried one from Belkin, 3com and a third one from which I forgot the brand name. None worked. Bluetooth only supports USB Dongles so far, a big annoyance.
Cheers.

Ahmed
 
Originally posted by jettredmont
Apple doesn't like the idea of "tapping" on a motion-sensitive track pad (which, BTW, is VERY annoying on Apple laptops after having "learned" how to use Windows trackpads).
News to me. I had to turn off tap/double-tap/etc. on my iBook (in the Mouse control panel/pref pane).

Or is there some other kind of tapping that I'm not familiar with?

TIA
WM
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Aluminum Look.. cool!

Originally posted by MOFS
I think you're right, but the other thing is that here in Britain where most lead pipes have been replaced by aluminium ones, there have been rumours of a link between aluminium and Parkinson's disease.
Just don't feed the mouse to your cat:D
 
Aluminum, Parkinsons

1) That rumor was going around in the early 80's. It still hasn't had any real solid findings.

2) Aluminum oxide would have to be the agent ingested, if that were the case, which is a flakey residue on aluminum that has not been annodized.

3) Annodized aluminum... Unless you eat it whole, can't give you parkinsons, even if the rumors are true...

But I wouldn't suggest licking your mice, or letting your cats lick your mice, anyways... It's unsanitary.

Jaedreth
 
Aluminum, Parkinsons

1) That rumor was going around in the early 80's. It still hasn't had any real solid findings.

2) Aluminum oxide would have to be the agent ingested, if that were the case, which is a flakey residue on aluminum that has not been annodized.

3) Annodized aluminum... Unless you eat it whole, can't give you parkinsons, even if the rumors are true...

But I wouldn't suggest licking your mice, or letting your cats lick your mice, anyways... It's unsanitary.

Jaedreth
 
I am in the market for a BT keyboard and have been wondering about just this, a Mac metal finish pro BT keyboard.

If this rumor was around in June 2003 it makes me wonder if waiting now is worth it. Anyone have any inside information on this?
 
aswitcher said:
I am in the market for a BT keyboard and have been wondering about just this, a Mac metal finish pro BT keyboard.

If this rumor was around in June 2003 it makes me wonder if waiting now is worth it. Anyone have any inside information on this?

If you are in need of a new keyboard now, then you should go ahead and purchase. Don't think we will see any change to the keyboard and mouse until MWSF.
 
wdlove said:
If you are in need of a new keyboard now, then you should go ahead and purchase. Don't think we will see any change to the keyboard and mouse until MWSF.

Yeah, after sleeping on it its feeling that way...
 
jettredmont said:
Not sure if ADC can handle a firewire-class connection. It would likely take a bit of jiggering in the motherboard and/or video card to get the "USB" signal wires on FW bus instead, and that would break all the existing USB-hub monitors. On the other hand, if Apple were able to get USB2 in ADC (presumably easier than FW) then the iSight could send a USB2 signal down the pipes, and existing hardware would continue to work (just like existing USB 1.1. hubs work fine on a USB 2 source).

Currently, though, USB is inadequate for the high-quality video that iSight targets. ADC only currently includes a USB connection.

I think that ADC might be dead considering the new monitors from Apple are dvi only. The new monitors also have firewire ports in addition to usb. Very handy.
 
aswitcher said:
Yeah, after sleeping on it its feeling that way...

I haven't heard or read ANY rumor about a new keyboard and mouse. Even so I would like to see another revision that fits the PowerMac and Powerbook as long as they keep the current version as well.

But it doesn't mean that they are not working on them, just no rumors. If you need one know - i wouldn't wait.

Cheers
CmdrLaForge
 
CmdrLaForge said:
I haven't heard or read ANY rumor about a new keyboard and mouse. Even so I would like to see another revision that fits the PowerMac and Powerbook as long as they keep the current version as well.

But it doesn't mean that they are not working on them, just no rumors. If you need one know - i wouldn't wait.

Cheers
CmdrLaForge

I certainly hope so, this model has been around for almost 2 years. We need to start some rumors. Maybe someone will come up with a design idea.
 
wdlove said:
I certainly hope so, this model has been around for almost 2 years. We need to start some rumors. Maybe someone will come up with a design idea.

Well I;ve got mine now. The white quickly shows dust and I dont like the keys much (to big?), but its not a bad keyboard and the wireless seems to work fine. I would have liked transfers/stickers to label my function keys with symbols for screen brightness, monitor, and expose features...

Out of interest whats the easiest way to program function keys on a Mac?
 
Wow...that's so funny!

aswitcher said:
Well I;ve got mine now. The white quickly shows dust and I dont like the keys much (to big?), ...

Just picked up an Apple Wireless Mouse and Keyboard. Because I have an old G4 1.25 MDD, I also purchased a D-Link USB bud (which, ironically, is shorter than the "antenna" that the G5 requires for BT). Guess what? The wife thought that the keys of the new keyboard were in fact too small! Personally, I love the thing (and according to Mavis Beacon, I am now up to 110 wpm and beyond!) and the Apple mouse is so excellent that I have now completely forgotten about that whole "scroll wheel" issue; it's almost as if this thing can read my mind with regard to cursor placement (and I still have old 10.2.8, which did not accelerate the mouse cursor as much as Panther did)!

No doubt, I had to load a software and firmware upgrade via the enclosed CD, but check this out => not only can I boot from a CD by holding down the "C" key, but afterward, have a fully functional mouse as well!

I'm a happy camper; between this and the extra 1G of RAM I just picked up from Crucial, my G4 feels as if it's been injected with massive quantities of Viagra. At this rate, I can easily wait on the G5 just as soon as Tiger is in its second major update, and iDVD and FCE will be in their respective 64-bit forms...
 
CmdrLaForge said:
I haven't heard or read ANY rumor about a new keyboard and mouse. Even so I would like to see another revision that fits the PowerMac and Powerbook as long as they keep the current version as well.

But it doesn't mean that they are not working on them, just no rumors. If you need one know - i wouldn't wait.

Cheers
CmdrLaForge

Well, I am in the process of considering an iCurve and the Apple Wireless Keyboard for my PowerBook 17.

I already have the wireless mouse from Apple. And it's not like I'm absolutely dying to have that iCurve and keyboard this instant.

is it better for me to buy the keyboard now or use it, or should I just wait it out until the new "aluminum" keyboard comes out? (when will it, anyone know?)
 
Diehidun,I just got the iCurve and Bluetooth Keyboard for my Powerbook and am like a pig in muck.It really makes life easier in at home mode.I consider it money well spent.I use two button mouse so am holding off until Macmice bring out the BT mouse.
 
i think the aluminum keyboard/mouse is waaay past due - cammon the g5 has been out for over a year and the white on aluminum has looked goofy since day one .. a backlit smoooth wireless keyboard/mouse would make the g5 experience all so much awesomer .... i want mine noooow! ...
 
ok i know this is weak ... but something anything close would be sweet...

the thing on the mouse is a "touch scroll" ..... haha
 

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Wireless/icurve/powermate

I just got my Wireless KB Mouse/iCurve and girffin powermate and its great. Im big with the color cordinating of everything but I think the KB and Mouse look great. No need for a scrolling wheel with the powermate Which i have to add is a awsome product. I couldnt be happier with. It really works out well. Soon hopefully a Canon GL2 and A 23in Aluminum Dispay will be chillen on my desk.
Man... Im gonna need a bigger desk.

:D :D
 
BT Wireless Mouse Help?

i do not have a mac, but needed the options of bluetooth for both my mouse and keyboard and i liked the look, so i purchased the mac ones...i got the keyboard to work fine, but with the mouse, the computer recognizes it there, but when it goes to piar the devices, it asks for a pin code which i do not know where to obtain...is there something im missing or a default pincode for the device?
 
jdip23 said:
i do not have a mac, but needed the options of bluetooth for both my mouse and keyboard and i liked the look, so i purchased the mac ones...i got the keyboard to work fine, but with the mouse, the computer recognizes it there, but when it goes to piar the devices, it asks for a pin code which i do not know where to obtain...is there something im missing or a default pincode for the device?
Windows? Are you using the Bluetooth setup wizard? Once you press the "initiate pairing" button, a PIN should appear on the screen. You're supposed to type that number, followed by the return key.
 
thevessels said:
ok i know this is weak ... but something anything close would be sweet...

the thing on the mouse is a "touch scroll" ..... haha

Your mouse looks great, but were are the rest of the keys on the keyboard? :confused:
 
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