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I think it's a chip that will go into every Mac computer and that will be the only way OS 10.6 will run.
Perfect solution for fending off those pesky osx86 wannabe companies in the future.

Apple made Apple controlled.

yea nothing like pissing off every old mac owner by not letting them upgrade
 
while true, I think PA Semi's experience is making low-power PPC chips, so they do have some skill that could be useful for portable devices that could translate beyond PPC.

I took a look through their patents but it was a bit technical, so I was unable to get anything out of it.

A few random theories:

PA Semi might have patents (issued or pending) on low-power design technologies that could cover what Apple wants to do with portable devices in the future (as well as Apple's competitors!).

If those patents cover something Intel needs on its future roadmap, that would put Apple in an even better position when time comes to negotiate pricing the next few rounds.

Portions of PA Semi's team have already designed an ARM processor, and with higher performance than ARM Inc. could at the time. And Safari on the iPod is still a bit sluggish. But the XCode toolpath doesn't seem to care what CPU architecture is under the hood.

PA Semi's current technology includes something like an integrated security processor, the kind that might make jailbreaking an iPad many orders of magnitude more difficult. Might be one reason the defense industry is buying PA Semi's current products, as well as performance/power ratio.

Lastly, buying PA Semi might have been cheaper than the cost of a potential lawsuit for backing away from some sort of letter of intent.

^^
(but all the above are just some random characters due to my cat walking across the keyboard... )
 
Not a CPU

Chip doesn't mean CPU.

It could be a secondary chip for encoding MP4 or for handling different tasks than the main operating system.

It would be nice for quickly encoding things to MP4.

Currently you can't download and own a HD film to your iMac and have the same film on your iPod/iPhone.

If you had extra little chips for encoding you can download the HD version from apple and let the chip encode whatever version you need for your device.
 
Yes and No is it consistent with earlier statements

Yes they want their talent but no it is indeed for their chip designs that aren't Intel based. They will not use their current chips, but will use their acquired IP to complete Apple's chip goals outside of Intel.

EETimes can't embrace being half correct and half incorrect.
 
Yes please!

Gimme back the PPC feeling. Honestly, those Intel iMacs (Core Duo first iteration) really feel bad. The lasting appeal deteriorated so much. For the first time in my Mac life I
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My PB G4 feels so good in contrast. I fear upgrading to an Intel machine, as at least those iMacs I have behave a bit...let me say...strange!

PPC was a glorious time, so here is to hoping that Universal binaries will stay!

I agree! My PPC machines are more stable than the Intel machines. They also feel more "solid". The Intel machines may be faster, but they feel fragile rather than a powerhouse.
 
Yes please!

Gimme back the PPC feeling. Honestly, those Intel iMacs (Core Duo first iteration) really feel bad. The lasting appeal deteriorated so much. For the first time in my Mac life I experience regular system freezes with leaving Safari open for more than 24 hrs.

My PB G4 feels so good in contrast. I fear upgrading to an Intel machine, as at least those iMacs I have behave a bit...let me say...strange!

PPC was a glorious time, so here is to hoping that Universal binaries will stay!

Granted Parallels and Boot Camp are awesome and wouldn't run on PPC.

Exactly! Try to imagine that - each processor is a pipe.. those PPCs are thinner, but always clear - you can feel you know, when the process will be done.
Intel chips are wider pipes.. but sometimes gets blocked.
Roughly described.. just mention the "megahertz myth", pipelining.. Steve was comparing Pentiums with G4s on one of his keynotes.

That's why I hate to use Intel Macs with Photoshop.. still using my good old G4 :)
 
while true, I think PA Semi's experience is making low-power PPC chips, so they do have some skill that could be useful for portable devices that could translate beyond PPC.

Perhaps the interest in low-power chips + the interest in games = handheld gaming device? We all know how miserably the Nokia N-Gage failed but...could Apple pull it off?
 
Thems gotta be sum really wicked smaht and talented en-ginn-ears to be worth $280 millions dollars. ;)

Must be nice to have that much cash lying around to buy such extraordinary talent and IC. I just wish someone would step up and buy me for $280 mill. :eek:
 
I think it's a chip that will go into every Mac computer and that will be the only way OS 10.6 will run.
Perfect solution for fending off those pesky osx86 wannabe companies in the future.

Apple made Apple controlled.
Except you'd have to have 10.6 work on current Macs that don't have this chip too, rendering this sort of protection moot.
 
The bad news: Your company has been acquired
The good news: You still have a job
The bad news: You now have the pickiest, crankiest boss on the planet

Not even close. I worked for him at NeXT and Apple. Perhaps I'm just a hard driven, perfectionist who can't stomach mediocrity because I found him to be the most engaging, bluntly honest and compassionate boss I've ever worked under.

If you want angry, lifeless, morons just work in the Seattle Area.
 
Chip doesn't mean CPU.

It could be a secondary chip for encoding MP4 or for handling different tasks than the main operating system.

It would be nice for quickly encoding things to MP4.

Currently you can't download and own a HD film to your iMac and have the same film on your iPod/iPhone.

If you had extra little chips for encoding you can download the HD version from apple and let the chip encode whatever version you need for your device.

Here's a hint. Apple is not using Intel Atom. I'll leave the rest for speculation.
 
The beauty of Universal Binary is that Apple can slap whatever chip they want into a Mac and everything will run perfectly.

Keeps the door open without having to commit to staying at Intel's house party in the event that IBM's Power6/7's party starts rocking the neighborhood and looks more enticing to be the place to be.

Still prefer the PPC over the X86 chips.... just me though.

Still never understood why the PowerMac couldn't have stuck around but with a Power6 chip in it instead of a XEON chip. I miss the name "PowerMac" also. Mac Pro just doesn't sound as awe-inspiring.

I couldn't agree more. Still dreaming of a return of the PowerMac G6. Mac Pro just sounds...so generic. Same applies to PowerBool :(
 
I think it's a chip that will go into every Mac computer and that will be the only way OS 10.6 will run.

If this is true then OS 10.6 would not run on any mac that is currently sold. None of the current or older macs have this yet to be designed chip.

I'm sure Apple would not obsolite all of their user current hardware. So, not matter what Apple does, if some one wants to build a "hacktosh" all that have to do is make sure it "looks" like a 2008 vintage iMac, Mini or MP.
 
Sure it has nothing to do with bad software engineering but the kind of CPU. Right.

Though I have to agree it leaves one question wide open:

Why does Safari 3 work rather solid on my PB (though eating up the memory quite fast) while it generally crashes my iMac.

Just a simple test (I have four Imac Core Duo first iteration with differing Apple RAM): Leave Safari open for more than 24 hours. I can repeatedly generate a totally hung system with that. And with totally hung I mean that I even can't Force Quit, I have to use the Power Button.

My current PB uptime (with Safari open 24/7) is 25 days! :eek:
 
Perhaps the interest in low-power chips + the interest in games = handheld gaming device? We all know how miserably the Nokia N-Gage failed but...could Apple pull it off?

Doesn't Apple already have a handheld gaming device - called the iPhone and/or iPod Touch? The games are not available just yet, but will be soon...

Will be interesting to see what Apple has in mind, and where they intend to apply the P.A. Semi chip stuff... I'm guessing its not going to be in one specific area, but a number of areas.
 
People here keep thinking the a CPU chip is the only kind of chip. Open up any Mac and look inside. Count those little black square things that are soldered to the PCB and notice that the non-CPU chips greatly outnumber the CPU chips. If you want to make the device smaller, cheaper and use less power, even if the CPU were zero-size you don't save much. We all know that a Mac's mainboard is many times larger than a CPU.

I'm sure what Apple would like is to be able to greatly reduce the nuber of non-CPU chips. Doing this is the only way to greatly reduce the size of a maniboard. but you can only do that if you have the abilty to do chip-level design.

I think it is clear that Apple knows that a small designer can't really compete with Intel when it comes to CPUs. They did not Buy PA Semi so that they can build better comonity chips, They bought them to design custom lowvolume device specific chips

I think these might find their way into products like the Apple TV or the iPod.

that may be linked with the "making the imac smaller" rumor it fits
 
Although PA semi have usually made small, power efficient chips though - less need for them in a gaming machine - however - apple cover most of the tech gadgets spectrum, apart from gaming...

while true, I think PA Semi's experience is making low-power PPC chips, so they do have some skill that could be useful for portable devices that could translate beyond PPC.

Right, but remember that Apple isn't buying them for their existing chips but rather for what they know. Could lead to just about anything.

I don't know. I just think it's interesting that Apple is buying a PPC chip maker when two of the three big game consoles use them.
 
The bad news: Your company has been acquired
The good news: You still have a job
The bad news: You now have the pickiest, crankiest boss on the planet

The excellent news: Your work will be used in products that you can be proud of and that people love.
 
The excellent news: Your work will be used in products that you can be proud of and that people love.

The not-so-excellent news: those products will always have essential features missing for no good reason beyond your new boss thinking them unnecessary or inelegant.
 
So not to derail the PA Semi discussion too much with wild-*ss speculation, but let's connect a few dots.

1. PA Semi has experience making PPC chips.

2. Apple believes PA Semi has talent to do something great with the PPC (presumably).

3. Apple has signaled an interest in games lately.

4. XBox 360 and Wii are both powered by PPC processors.

Hmm....

Mmmm, yes. I like your wild-*ss speculation.
Tell me more. :p
 
Thanx for the advice! I will upgrade sooner or later and I hear you.

I think I'll wait for the Nehalem MBP in about 9 months from now. But then I'll give it a go! :D

MBP Nehalem and new case redesign should be available Feb or March.
 
4-5 G

What if the idea is to make some sort of like new(not yet invented) 5g chip that is faster than 4G and uses much less power. iphone 3?:eek:

P.S.: I get that this company really dosent make wireless chips(at least none that anyone else has posted about.
 
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