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Lets try and spin this against :apple: somehow.

wasn't hard. within the headline and first paragraph it was stated that the company was forced to file bankruptcy cause Apple didn't pay them.

But we don't know why the payment wasn't made. That is the crux if the issue. Until we know that detail we can't really say that Apple was evil

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GT Advanced over promised and under delivered all for the sake of the Apple money and hype. Pretty simple to see that.

Very possibly, which could be why the final payment hasn't been made. They haven't made the final promised delivery

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"Sapphire Displays for iPhone 6 Missed by 'Weeks' Due to Yield Issues":

sorry but that rumor was BS. Anyone that knows anything about sapphire knows that a piece that big would be weak as hell if it was dropped or dropped on. No way would Apple risk the lawsuits that would happen if word got out that they used sapphire on the screens and they break super easy at that size. there would be claims that Apple did it in the hopes folks would break their screens all the time etc.

Maybe they toyed with the idea and tested it but the rejection would have come very quickly. Like the first drop tests
 
It's my understanding that Apple owns the equipment purchased with the funds it provided or at least has a lien on it. GTA goes away but Apple can bring in another operator or decide to run it themselves.
 
Here's an interesting take if it's true http://news.investors.com/technolog...take-equipment-and-tech-license-from-gtat.htm

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It's my understanding that Apple owns the equipment purchased with the funds it provided or at least has a lien on it. GTA goes away but Apple can bring in another operator or decide to run it themselves.

That's the gist of the IBD article I linked to here. If it's true Apple pulled the plug on GT but not necessarily on the technology that it bankrolled.

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sorry but that rumor was BS. Anyone that knows anything about sapphire knows that a piece that big would be weak as hell if it was dropped or dropped on. No way would Apple risk the lawsuits that would happen if word got out that they used sapphire on the screens and they break super easy at that size. there would be claims that Apple did it in the hopes folks would break their screens all the time etc.

Maybe they toyed with the idea and tested it but the rejection would have come very quickly. Like the first drop tests

$578 million is a drop in the bucket for Apple. Perhaps they toyed with the idea, or tried to see if they could develop a sapphire/glass "alloy" that would be scratch-resistant but also relatively shatter-resistant. If it worked, great, but if not, they'd still have plenty of sapphire to use in the higher-end versions of the Watch and could call it a day.

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Wouldn't be surprised if they would end up investigating that crooked CEO of theirs.

I'm sure the SEC and DOJ will at least look at it given that it came a day before the iPhone 6 announcement and didn't fit an obvious pattern (I.e. he hadn't been selling on the same day each month). But let's not make assumptions until we know the facts. Perhaps he scheduled the sale months in advance knowing that Apple would be making an announcement about that time but not knowing whether or not his company's material would be part of that announcement. If Apple had announced that the iPhone 6 or even just the Plus would have a sapphire display we wouldn't be having this conversation but would instead be saying the CEO should have held onto his stock.
 
I would imagine they could buy it way cheaper in bankruptcy than right now?
Perhaps and probably likely but now it would have to be in the hands of the courts and the court will ensure that if there is a purchase by a company with the net worth of Apple, then they'll ensure the purchase is beneficial to the point where creditors are repaid. The courts aren't going to automatically unload the company in some fire sale. GT should have attempted a fire sale but it seems like they truly want to reorganize and move forward.
Apple holds out payment to get out of paying when they filed for bankruptcy

Apple is smarter than this because their lawyers would have to know that the trustee in the bankruptcy will come after them for outstanding debts. Apple will have to pay, eventually.


As for the article, the WSJ is silly because I would imagine that Apple isn't the cause for the BK, but they're certainly not helping matters. If Apple truly withheld payment for any reason, they're in the wrong. There is no reason a company like Apple should not pay a bill when due.
 
As for the article, the WSJ is silly because I would imagine that Apple isn't the cause for the BK, but they're certainly not helping matters. If Apple truly withheld payment for any reason, they're in the wrong. There is no reason a company like Apple should not pay a bill when due.

Did you even read the article?

Apple gave GT a LOAN. Apple was not paying a bill - GT actually had to make loan payments to get more money from Apple, and supposedly wasn't. Apple loaned GT millions - all of which is now lost to Apple because of the bankruptcy filing.

APPLE is the one who is out $439 million, and GT agreed to pay Apple back, but GT is not going to, instead they filed bankruptcy. Apple's lawyers will try to get what they can out of GT, and deservedly so.
 
next big thing is clear fiberglass

Wrong, it is Transparent Aluminum. A San Francisco company has been quietly working on it since 1984. Apparently, immediately after their initial production run for a mysterious client, the Macintosh containing all the vital information was corrupted by a sophisticate computer virus. The people involved had some odd memory lapses as well.
 
Seems a little dirty to me...

Apple is under no obligation to purchase what GT produces in the factory, yet they are limited to whom they can sell to??

Someone at GT was sold a bill of goods and sold his soul to the devil. Bad deal for them.
 
Perhaps and probably likely but now it would have to be in the hands of the courts and the court will ensure that if there is a purchase by a company with the net worth of Apple, then they'll ensure the purchase is beneficial to the point where creditors are repaid. The courts aren't going to automatically unload the company in some fire sale. GT should have attempted a fire sale but it seems like they truly want to reorganize and move forward.

Well, if Apple is one of the major creditors....
 
Wrong, it is Transparent Aluminum. A San Francisco company has been quietly working on it since 1984. Apparently, immediately after their initial production run for a mysterious client, the Macintosh containing all the vital information was corrupted by a sophisticate computer virus. The people involved had some odd memory lapses as well.

That's one of my favorite scenes from that movie. Scotty stands there "computer...computer..." Guy hands him the mouse, Scotty holds mouse up to his face and speaks into it "computer...computer..." LOL
 
I think it's pretty obvious that Apple struck a deal with SpaceX to capture sapphire-rich asteroids, bring them into Earth orbit, launch the truffle pigs into space as astronaut miners, and then ship the sapphire back down to Earth on a space elevator.

PIIIIIIGS IIIIIIN SPAAAAAAAACE!!!!

I need this to be a movie.
 
Apple should now just buy GT and have their own glass furnaces :D

They might end up with the furnaces as a result of the bankruptcy. If they aren't allowed to restructure, they would have to liquidate to pay their debts. There is an ordering of who gets to collect, and in which order. Lawyers are up there, otherwise now lawyer would waste their time representing an entity involved in bankruptcy. I suspect Apple made sure they were pretty high up on the collection priority before loaning that kind of money.
 
Seems a little dirty to me...

Apple is under no obligation to purchase what GT produces in the factory, yet they are limited to whom they can sell to??

Someone at GT was sold a bill of goods and sold his soul to the devil. Bad deal for them.

Apple is infamous among suppliers for their contracts that give them exclusivity, sometimes even for years after Apple withdraws any orders. In other words, the supplier cannot sell to anyone else even if Apple buys nothing.

It's a suicidal clause for suppliers, and you'd think they'd learn by now.

Some have. Some suppliers in the Far East are refusing to let Apple pay for part of their factories, and others who have, want out of the deal.

GTAT's contract with Apple is, by most reasonable standards, terrible.

GTAT is obligated to produce a minimum amount of sapphire for Apple (at an Apple factory), but Apple is under no obligation to buy any -- and GTAT has exclusivity obligations, so it might not even be allowed to sell to anyone else. And even if no one buys the sapphire, GTAT still has to pay back the money Apple advanced.

It's an awful deal. You'd only do this deal if, you know, you were a small sapphire company offered the chance to build stuff for Apple. GTAT took a reasonable but risky gamble on its Apple relationship. That gamble seems to have failed. That happens. But it hardly means that the next potential supplier will turn down Apple.

- Bloomberg
 
Apple is infamous among suppliers for their contracts that give them exclusivity, sometimes even for years after Apple withdraws any orders. In other words, the supplier cannot sell to anyone else even if Apple buys nothing.

It's a suicidal clause for suppliers, and you'd think they'd learn by now.

A supplier would only go for that clause if they thought the benefits outweigh the risks.

Maybe GT was hurting, maybe on the road to closing, and this was their big chance to make it big? The downsides aren't that bad in this situation.

Or, more likely, the CEO of GT made millions in the deal, and didn't care about his company. This seems most likely in today's business climate.
 
I`m sure someone else will invest and take there ideas since they never came to an agreement.
 
Lets try and spin this against :apple: somehow.

That's easy - who would enter into such an important contract with a company so close to insolvency.

This would never happen under Steve's watch. Heads should roll at Apple.
 
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