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I think many don’t realize how much of a game changer retinal quality AR pass through will be in a mass consumer device. If I could replace every single display I own with this one device, then that alone would be worth it. And on top of that it will have the processor of a full laptop as well.

I think $3000 is a bit much though so I hope it’s just an overestimated rumor just like the iPad was but who knows.

I’d love to know what you all think are the reasons it won’t be revolutionary, because I fully believe it could be!
 
I don’t see the application and mass adoption for these. It’s not like you’re going to strap them on and walk out of the house with them on, to do other stuff and augment your reality. It’s gonna be to play games or consume some kinda content, but you can only do that for so long without fatigue. And it’s much harder on the body to spend all those hours in a headset vs a phone you can quickly and easily pick up and put down.
 
Not the same product, but I remember having the first PlayStation VR and how annoying that experience was. That…doesn’t make me excited for this.

But we’ll see. Problem with all these reports is despite all these words in the articles, they don’t describe much of anything. Like what is apples vision for AR? What would we be doing? Use cases? What do they expect us to actually do with it? Those are the details we need. Not “well it might look like ski goggles”
 
The headset will reportedly compete with Meta's mixed reality headset, which is priced at $1,500.
So really, the cost of an iPhone everywhere but the US :rolleyes:? I wish we could take the time to look outside the US bubble once in a while.
 
I don’t see the application and mass adoption for these. It’s not like you’re going to strap them on and walk out of the house with them on, to do other stuff and augment your reality. It’s gonna be to play games or consume some kinda content, but you can only do that for so long without fatigue. And it’s much harder on the body to spend all those hours in a headset vs a phone you can quickly and easily pick up and put down.
What if it was good enough to not cause fatigue? Also, people don’t take their current TVs outside either but they’ll still drop thousands of dollars on a fancy setup in their homes just to watch some content for a few hours
 
Quest Pro requires a phone or computer to add apps.

Halve the price of the $3k headset by removing a chip and require an iphone for processing/rendering w latest wifi, half resolution, smaller battery and apple competes directly w Quest pro for $1500.

Somebody should hire me.
 
WHY?????!!!!!! What is this dumb headset going to be good for in the consumer market?

Is Apple really going to try and compete with Meta over this garbage?

Please, someone more knowledgeable than me (and more level headed about it) explain what this stupid thing is good for :(
 
WHY?????!!!!!! What is this dumb headset going to be good for in the consumer market?

Is Apple really going to try and compete with Meta over this garbage?

Please, someone more knowledgeable than me (and more level headed about it) explain what this stupid thing is good for :(
Why don’t you just wait to see what they actually release and make an educated opinion then?
 
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yes, correct........hence the name of the site "MAC RUMORS" I don't give much greed to stories here. I just wait until the releases are real. This is a play site to watch for me.
To have rumors about rumors is a bit too much though.
 
It’s nice to have a rumor about a variation of a product not release yet!

Next headline will be « second Apple car will have xxxx »

Anyway, I look forward for a 3000$ vr headset, and even more for a ~1000$ one.

I enjoy my quest2 very much but can use a better resolution, a more powerful processor and blacker black too!
 
I will definitely buy whatever headset Apple makes but for the general public $3000 is a doa product. At $300, the Quest was barely able to sell. I cannot wear a headset for more than 30 minutes at a time so I don't see how this will replace a monitor setup. I cannot see how this makes video calls better because you cannot make eye contact. Avatars are much less compelling than actual human faces so I don't see this being useful for work. Looking forward to Apple proving me wrong, but I just don't see this thing taking off in the near term.
 
WHY?????!!!!!! What is this dumb headset going to be good for in the consumer market?

Is Apple really going to try and compete with Meta over this garbage?

Please, someone more knowledgeable than me (and more level headed about it) explain what this stupid thing is good for :(
Not sure what you mean, quest2 is already incredible, but can use a better processor + screen. If somebody can release a ~1000$ device with a good software ecosystem, it will be a hit, as the Q2 is already one.
 
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I don't see this VR/Mixed Reality headset selling well. 🤷‍♂️ It will probably suffer the same fate as the original homepod. Remember 3D glasses? Nobody liked them. People don't like wearing things unless it has a benefitting purpose. But idk Apple has money to waste so. For me this is why AR glasses concept was so much better. Not a bulky headset that you strap your face with.
 
I will definitely buy whatever headset Apple makes but for the general public $3000 is a doa product. At $300, the Quest was barely able to sell. I cannot wear a headset for more than 30 minutes at a time so I don't see how this will replace a monitor setup. I cannot see how this makes video calls better because you cannot make eye contact. Avatars are much less compelling than actual human faces so I don't see this being useful for work. Looking forward to Apple proving me wrong, but I just don't see this thing taking off in the near term.
Even without eye tracking, it’s already better to do job meeting than in Teams. (or maybe as good as).

So with eye tracking, and better resolution, it will much, much better. There will be no competition.
 
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WHY?????!!!!!! What is this dumb headset going to be good for in the consumer market?

Is Apple really going to try and compete with Meta over this garbage?

Please, someone more knowledgeable than me (and more level headed about it) explain what this stupid thing is good for :(
First of all, the Quest Pro is absolute garbage in comparison to the specs rumored for the Apple headset so no worries there.

And second, the rumored specs are likely to create retinal quality AR passthrough which means you can create displays in your environment at any size. This could then theoretically replace your laptop, tv, and desktop monitors, just with that alone. Plus you’ll get the processing power of a laptop, and likely the highest quality VR headset available which would be awesome for gaming!
 
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You can bet your bottom dollar I won’t be in the first generation of purchasers. I will of course go play with it at the Apple Store. Maybe by 5th iteration it will be affordable enough to throw away some disposable income.
 
Still pretty expensive for something most don't have much interest in. What can Apple do to differentiate from existing AR/VR devices to make it more desirable?
Wearing comfort, display resolution and wider viewing area. More gesture accuracy and responsiveness. Additional gestures, possibly with more body parts. Integration with other Apple products
 
I don’t see the application and mass adoption for these. It’s not like you’re going to strap them on and walk out of the house with them on, to do other stuff and augment your reality. It’s gonna be to play games or consume some kinda content, but you can only do that for so long without fatigue. And it’s much harder on the body to spend all those hours in a headset vs a phone you can quickly and easily pick up and put down.
If Apple solves the fatigue part, it’ll be huge. You can have a huge monitor for your Mac in virtual space. A personal home theater with no physical projector or screen. With a headset, there’s none of the finger strain of using a phone and you don’t have to keep picking it up and putting it down if there’s an element of transparency to your real environment.
 
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Still pretty expensive for something most don't have much interest in. What can Apple do to differentiate from existing AR/VR devices to make it more desirable?
Now over 20 years since these AV/VR devices were proposed and there is no volume take-up of any product of any manufacturer. We will have Bluetooth brain implants using our retina and other senses connected to our iDevices and Apple Watch as these glasses are totally impractical.
 
Still pretty expensive for something most don't have much interest in. What can Apple do to differentiate from existing AR/VR devices to make it more desirable?
Let you interact with your iPhone and Apple Watch without taking the headset off. You can set a poor version of that up with android devices (since you can cast to Windows, which can cast to your headset), but you can't at all with the iPhone. That would actually be pretty significant, but not at higher than base iPhone prices. Spatial Audio on Airpods would become more useful too. I expect apple to target the wrong demographic for a few generations just like the Apple Watch though. They might figure out fitness and workout integration early on though... since they can monetize Fitness+
 
Now over 20 years since these AV/VR devices were proposed and there is no volume take-up of any product of any manufacturer. We will have Bluetooth brain implants using our retina and other senses connected to our iDevices and Apple Watch as these glasses are totally impractical.
probably because so far they have all been utter S**t.
 
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