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The Apple of now is only intersted in profits and not interested in people like you and me anymore.

I've said it before but this article explains it:

http://www.zdnet.com/article/heres-why-apple-doesnt-care-about-updating-macs/

One day it will bite them and that day will come soon.
What makes you think they were ever interested in you?
It seems a lot of fans here have self-deluded themselves into thinking Apple is or was this company that tucks you in at night and tells you there are no monsters under the bed.
 
What makes you think they were ever interested in you?

Every company should be interested in their customers. Apple hasn't shown any interest in their computer (pro) customers, MacBook (pro) customers and even their biggest money machine is being neglected if those rumored iPhone 7 is what it is. Interested in me as a person, NO. Interested in my money, HELL YEAH
 
Siri can play my personal, legally-ripped (and iTunes Matched) music, because Apple has it catalogued via iCloud thanks to iTunes. Apple simply chooses to NOT provide that service for a personal movie collection, and only because they didn't sell me the movies. ...

That explains your use case. What about all the people who have purchased movies in iTunes?

FYI: The search does not have to be cloud based. Plex on ATV4 uses voice search and it is not cloud based.
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Every company should be interested in their customers. Apple hasn't shown any interest in their computer (pro) customers, MacBook (pro) customers and even their biggest money machine is being neglected if those rumored iPhone 7 is what it is. Interested in me as a person, NO. Interested in my money, HELL YEAH
Their interest in you is not benign.
Their interest in you is how to maximize profit.
Apparently they are comfortable with the profits they are getting from the Mac lineup.
You link to an article but apparently the meaning hasn't' sunk in.
 
What makes you think they were ever interested in you?
It seems a lot of fans here have self-deluded themselves into thinking Apple is or was this company that tucks you in at night and tells you there are no monsters under the bed.

I see you have changed your response. To respond in your childish language: Apple was the sweet and curious rabbit in the field that out ran the monsters. Now it has become a monster! Sweet dreams
 
I see you have changed your response. To respond in your childish language: Apple was the sweet and curious rabbit in the field that out ran the monsters. Now it has become a monster! Sweet dreams
Then they had you fooled.
It was all a marketing ploy to draw you in.
 
Then they had you fooled.
It was all a marketing ploy to draw you in.

Yes it is. And yes I understand the meaning of the article. Apple wants to be the Gucci and Prada of the computer business. Except technology isn't the same kind as fashion. Well unless you're meaning Apple lost its cool. I've to agree on that. And yes I'll be abandoning ship soon.
 
Since I'm sure you run a Plex server ... Plex does live at your house.
So does the media I have in iTunes.
Not clear on what point you aren't trying to make.
To be clear, based on the fact Plex can do it, it does not appear that your original theory on why Siri can't search iTunes locally is invalid.
 
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So does the media I have in iTunes.
Not clear on what point you aren't trying to make.
To be clear, based on the fact Plex can do it, it does not appear that your original theory on why Siri can't search iTunes locally is invalid.

Plex is on your home server... it serves up your media... it already knows what you have, thus it can search it.

Siri is internet based... it doesn't know what you have on your server unless it is told by iTunes each time you ask... that equates a privacy issue, so no go (at least at this time).

Does that clarify things?
 
Plex is on your home server... it serves up your media... it already knows what you have, thus it can search it.

Siri is internet based... it doesn't know what you have on your server unless it is told by iTunes each time you ask... that equates a privacy issue, so no go (at least at this time).

Does that clarify things?
So why can't whatever mechanism Plex uses to search, (if it not Siri) be used to search the legally purchased local content in iTunes? Itunes is also local and has a database.

If Plex doesn't use Siri, what mechanism does it use to voice search?
 
You do not have to pay individually. Just connect it to your cable (if you have cable). This is why I want Apple to offer their own "cable" service.

I don't have cable. And I don't see the point of Apple doing all this work to make a guide for TV if you have to have a cable subscription, when your cable remote already has a guide button right on it. This whole fragmented system needs an overhaul.
 
I don't have cable. And I don't see the point of Apple doing all this work to make a guide for TV if you have to have a cable subscription, when your cable remote already has a guide button right on it. This whole fragmented system needs an overhaul.

I can answer this for you.

I also have cable for Internet. It was just a little more for the TV service and I have HBO for $5 a month and Showtime for nothing additional for up to 12 months.

I have the Comcast's old, slow, laggy STB sitting in the box that it was shipped to my house. I never hooked it up, and have no plans to do so.

I much rather use the UI of the ATV3 or even the ATV4 than the slow outdated UI of Comcast's STB.
 
So they just want to make the Apple TV a set-top box. This does nothing to move the needle forward on getting rid of the cable company middlemen. I can't imagine this is what Steve had in mind with his big idea.

Apple has tried for years to also be a middleman, failed as they want too big a cut. I wonder how they will clip the ticket wit this new idea
 
Apple's goal is to help users discover all of the different television channels that are available through dedicated apps from companies like HBO, Netflix, and ESPN without the need to open up each app. The digital TV guide would also include a feature allowing users to play TV shows and movies with one click.

One of the things I love about Roku is its Universal Search. Type in what you're looking for, and it lists all the sources, which you can click to go to.

Some kind of Universal Guide would also be useful, but I'm trying to imagine how you wouldn't be overwhelmed by it. Unless it's like the Recommendations that most channels give based on your past viewing. (Which can lead to something neat, or it can cause you to miss out.)

What was that secret that Steve Jobs said when he cracked the TV? Was this having Apps on Apple TV, Siri, or this digital TV guide?

I always figured he suddenly remembered the world's best remote control: kids!! :D

Many of us here are old enough to remember back when WE were the remote control in the living room.

Your father would say, "Okay, it's 8:30!" and you immediately knew it was time to switch to the channel with Lost in Space, move the antenna and adjust the vertical and the tint for the best picture. He never lifted a finger himself.

Amazon is free to put the same version currently available for iDevices on the Apple TV. Apple is not forcing them to support IAP. So what's Amazon's excuse now?

Seriously? Without a settop web browser, it's impossible to purchase media using only the Apple TV.

And good luck explaining to my wife how to go use a different computer somewhere to do that and then come back to view it on an ATV.

Ridiculous. Thank goodness for boxes like Roku.
 
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Netflix users would for example be less likely to go through the application, which is not good for the largest content providers.

I agree with this, but if this did happen, then maybe Netflix would do something about their UI on the ATV4.

It visually looks nice, but trying to navigate through that mess is horrible.

Whatever happen to genres? It is easier to find stuff to watch using the ATV3 Netflix app, then watch it on the ATV4.
 
One of the things I love about Roku is its Universal Search. Type in what you're looking for, and it lists all the sources, which you can click to go to.

Some kind of Universal Guide would also be useful, but I'm trying to imagine how you wouldn't be overwhelmed by it. Unless it's like the Recommendations that most channels give based on your past viewing. (Which can lead to something neat, or it can cause you to miss out.)



I always figured he suddenly remembered the world's best remote control: kids!! :D

Many of us here are old enough to remember back when WE were the remote control in the living room.

Your father would say, "Okay, it's 8:30!" and you immediately knew it was time to switch to the channel with Lost in Space, move the antenna and adjust the vertical and the tint for the best picture. He never lifted a finger himself.



Seriously? Without a settop web browser, it's impossible to purchase media using only the Apple TV.

And good luck explaining to my wife how to go use a different computer somewhere to do that and then come back to view it on an ATV.

Ridiculous. Thank goodness for boxes like Roku.

Even Roku charges Amazon. It's not free. HBO, showtime, Netflix etc all negotiated based on what they bring to Apple. Tell Amazon to get their head out of their arse and do the same.
 
Even Roku charges Amazon. It's not free. HBO, showtime, Netflix etc all negotiated based on what they bring to Apple. Tell Amazon to get their head out of their arse and do the same.

I have no need or desire to. We're quite happy with our Roku boxes, since they already have Amazon Video.

It's up to Apple to make better deals, if they want more people to buy Apple TVs.

If Amazon can't make money on ATV, they're not losing anything by not being on it. However, without an Amazon app, Apple is losing potential ATV customers like us.
 
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