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Some additionally intriguing ideas... hmmm.... Apple TV with monitor functionality.... (the articles focus on it being an eGPU I think is completely wrong)..

That makes sense. Could run tvOS stand-alone and watch your Apple TV+ shows. Then just gets better when integrated with your other Apple devices.
 
eGPU on the monitor makes sense. Under average office workflows, driving more monitors often either bottlenecks through your graphics processing, or it doesn't but heats up your laptop to the point of CPU throttling. Would be great to produce that heat somewhere else.
 
I'm just curious why you feel that way. There are some truly fantastic displays from Viewsonic, NEC, and even Dell and other companies in the $800-$1500 range, and pretty good displays as low as $300. What does the Apple logo bring to the space?

Don't take this as anti-apple; enjoy their products. But why do you care so much for a product in.a space they clearly have no interest in being in when there are so many excellent products already available?
I don't use Apple displays, but I get it. Third party ones never have quite the same colors and such unless you calibrate them professionally, and if you care about aesthetics, the display is the one component you look at all the time.
 
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This is dumb. Don’t require an external display from Apple to have eGPU support.. just make a small MacMini sized case for the eGPU please
That may not be possible. None of the M-series Macs released so far have discrete graphics nor do they support eGPUs. If Apple is working on their own pro solution as part of the SoC, it would probably preclude adding an external card, as the GPU must be an integrated part of the system. Not an engineer, but that’s my understanding at this point. Perhaps, then, Apple’s own chips may be treated an an extension of that system, making this a viable solution.
 
The day the Apple Glasses are available, there will be no more monitors (they will be superimposed on the field of view). Perhaps 9to5Mac has confused something here. Because when the glasses are there, the structure interfaces will of course be rearranged.
Don't you mean iGlasses?

:D
 
Absolutely no reason why Apple can’t make a display that is good for linking to your computer as a monitor or being used as an actual TV with an Apple TV built in.
 
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Apple is developing an external display that includes an A13 chip with Neural Engine, according to a new rumor from 9to5Mac. The A13 chip with Neural Engine would presumably serve as an eGPU, though details are light at this time.

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There were rumors back in 2016 that suggested Apple was working on a new version of the Thunderbolt display that included a graphics card, but no such display ever materialized. In fact, no Apple-branded display came out ahead of the Pro Display XDR that was introduced in 2019, and the Pro Display XDR is just a display with no GPU included.

9to5Mac believes that the display with A13 chip would be a replacement for the Pro Display XDR, and it's possible that the release version of such a display would use an even more powerful chip than the A13 that was first introduced with the iPhone 11.

Apple is also rumored to be working on a more affordable external monitor that would be sold alongside the Pro Display XDR, but this more affordable monitor is apparently separate from the version with a built-in A-series chip.

Article Link: Apple Working on External Display With Built-In A13 Chip

Some ideas...

Could be for supporting Color grading backlight, Touch ID, Face ID, Sensors (gyro, ambient light, proximity etc...), web cam, and a Touch Bar?

For example:
  • Lock/unlock screen (Touch ID, Face ID)
  • Sleep/Screen Saver (proximity sensor)
  • Monitor position/inclination detection (gyro)
  • Touch Bar (monitor controls) - monitor color mode, audio level, brightness level, power on/off, pro overlay HUD to show/hide (audio levels, color scopes, etc...), input controls, disable/enable ports, etc...
  • Gesture control (think leap motion, Kinect)
  • Built in color grading backlight on display (White/neutral LED light on the back of the display to shine on wall for color grading) See Medialight (https://www.biaslighting.com/collec...ght-mk2-eclipse-1m-6500k-cri-98-bias-lighting)
 
I’m not an engineer but like everyone I’m wondering what the chip could be for:

Perhaps to display high definition 4k graphics on the monitor to leave the computer CPU free - but wouldn’t the power of the chip be overkill?

Or to have a monitor with Apple TV functionality added in, and maybe extra functions added overlaid on TV. Maybe this could really be next gen TV?

I suspect it’s less likely to boost GPU power as that would be a lot of expense added to a monitor that would be wasted on non Mac owners used it and could quickly date the monitor as it ages.
 
That may not be possible. None of the M-series Macs released so far have discrete graphics nor do they support eGPUs. If Apple is working on their own pro solution as part of the SoC, it would probably preclude adding an external card, as the GPU must be an integrated part of the system. Not an engineer, but that’s my understanding at this point. Perhaps, then, Apple’s own chips may be treated an an extension of that system, making this a viable solution.
Right they don’t have support in software yet. But the hardware already supports thunderbolt and and pci lanes in the M1 chip. So they would have to write the software and make their custom SoC eGPU with Apple Silicon. But the rumor says they will stick the eGPU in a display.. if that’s how they want to bundle it, I’m kinda grossed out by that
 
Oh good. There is still time for everyone to take out a second mortgage on their homes or sell their kidneys on the black market to afford one.
 
How about an affordable screen like Thunderbolt display back in 2011, Apple?

Seriously tho, I could imagine it would sell like crazy. Give it some "docking" or "thunderbolt hub" functionality and people would buy them by the dozen.
 
How about an affordable screen like Thunderbolt display back in 2011, Apple? XDR Pro is useless for general public, but something on par with iMac screen would do great.

Seriously tho, I could imagine it would sell like crazy. Give it some "docking" or "thunderbolt hub" functionality and people would buy them by the dozen.
 
No! Please stop!

One single mini LED is larger than a RGBW subpixel, MUCH LARGER!

It is, but each zone consists of four LEDs, with RGBW.

They're not technically pixels in that they're much larger than the panel's pixels, but you asked why there's a factor of four. This is why.

Do you really think an M1 chip would be too slow to control 4 * 2732 * 2048 LEDs at 120 Hz? It wouldn't. They're just too costly to produce so far.
 
It has to be way more than just a controller. Wouldn't even 1 M1 CPU core be enough for that? Clocking at billions of Hz to control millions of LEDs at 120 Hz
 
It has to be way more than just a controller. Wouldn't even 1 M1 CPU core be enough for that? Clocking at billions of Hz to control millions of LEDs at 120 Hz

Yup. Even one core would be way overpowered just to drive the LEDs (and also inappropriate for other reasons, such as power draw).

You'd use a much simpler microcontroller for that.
 
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