The buttons on my iPhones work fine. If anything, haptic buttons are a hassle if you're wearing gloves, like the home button on the last iPhones and iPads to use them.
How much more waterproof are we needing at this point? iPhones can already survive a plunge into a swimming pool with no issue except waiting a while for the charging hole to dry out.But I’m guessing less waterproof than a solid state button.
stolid, adj.: having or expressing little or no sensibilityWhat's a "stolid state button" ?
I hugely prefer mice over trackpads, and would hate solid-state buttons on those. I’ll also predict that we won’t see solid-state buttons as main buttons on game controllers or TV remotes.I guess those who say “nobody asks for this” will be happy to go back to diving-board trackpads, since nobody asked for force-touch trackpads.
You really think everyone at Apple is that stupid?What happens when the OS freezes. Oops good luck shutting off your phone
How can you judge something without even trying it first?Yup, and when I grab my phone I apply a certain pressure. It’s never going to be foolproof and consistent.
The On/Off button already no longer works for that purpose on iPad 11 (A16) and iPad mini (A17 Pro): you can hold the button down all day and never get the option to shut off the thing.You really think everyone at Apple is that stupid?
They'll either leave the on/off button alone, or they'll find a way around this issue.
Don't you worry.
You have to press a volume button in addition: https://support.apple.com/en-us/102642The On/Off button already no longer works for that purpose on iPad 11 (A16) and iPad mini (A17 Pro): you can hold the button down all day and never get the option to shut off the thing.
So... there is no way to turn them off whatsoever?The On/Off button already no longer works for that purpose on iPad 11 (A16) and iPad mini (A17 Pro): you can hold the button down all day and never get the option to shut off the thing.
This is good info, and I’ve bookmarked it. Thanks.You have to press a volume button in addition: https://support.apple.com/en-us/102642
This is probably implemented in the chipset firmware.
The only way that I know of is in Control Center, which requires that your gadget not be frozen.So... there is no way to turn them off whatsoever?
If there is... then that's what I'm referring to when I said that they find ways around.
This subthread began by someone asking how it would work when the iPad freezes, so that’s what I addressed. When the iPad isn’t frozen, the method is slightly different (and arguably simpler): https://support.apple.com/guide/ipad/turn-ipad-on-or-off-ipad63d30b5a/ipadosThis is good info, and I’ve bookmarked it. Thanks.
But this is for a forced reboot, right? It’s not to just turn off your iPad. For that, it seems the only option is in Control Center now (another silent change that Apple made, which is a bit annoying to me).
Thank you!This subthread began by someone asking how it would work when the iPad freezes, so that’s what I addressed. When the iPad isn’t frozen, the method is slightly different (and arguably simpler): https://support.apple.com/guide/ipad/turn-ipad-on-or-off-ipad63d30b5a/ipados
On Face ID models, due to the lack of Home button, Siri is activated by a long press of the power button. That’s why they had to change it. Siri is more important to Apple than shutdown.Thank you!
I still have a beef with Apple about this, though. The one button worked just fine for power-on/off, so it is/was dumb to change it silently (no, I don’t think a web page buried some place qualifies as sufficient notice for changing the way that you do a thing after years). 🤷♂️
Yes, I'd be happy to. Actually, I'm using a machine that has one of those. I almost never have to click, since most of my work is done by tapping (both left and right click can be handled with tapping one finger or two). Only time I use the click is when I'm drawing something and need to "hold the button".I guess those who say “nobody asks for this” will be happy to go back to diving-board trackpads, since nobody asked for force-touch trackpads.
Right back at you, darling!How can you judge something without even trying it first?
You're not wrong, but is the wear and tear really a problem? You'll likely be getting a new iPhone long before the haptic engine wears out. The Magic Trackpad is all haptics. They get clicked on thousands of times a day...probably much more than the buttons on your iPhone would get clicked, and I've never heard anyone say their trackpad doesn't click anymore due to a worn-out haptic engine.There's "reduced mechanical wear" on the button but it's just transferred to the haptic engine which is itself mechanical. What is gained really?
Same way the buttons work today. They go through a processor/controller that's separate from the main processor the OS is running on. That way, they still remain functional when the OS is locked up. It's not like it's a physical switch that disconnects the battery.What happens when the OS freezes. Oops good luck shutting off your phone
For one thing no gunk making the button stick, I got something, no idea what, in the volume buttons on my ipad years ago and they’ve had a tendency to be hard to press ever since, no amount of cleaning has fixed itThere's "reduced mechanical wear" on the button but it's just transferred to the haptic engine which is itself mechanical. What is gained really?
Just a guess in my part. But more water resistance is better than less.How much more waterproof are we needing at this point? iPhones can already survive a plunge into a swimming pool with no issue except waiting a while for the charging hole to dry out.
If someone is planning a lot more than that, they probably should be using some kind of special housing.