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Apple Working on 'LLM Siri' for 2026 Launch

johnsawyercjs said:
On-device processing will become even more desirable in the long term, especially with increases in the amount of data crunched and the number of times we use AI in a day. There are several reasons, among them being:

• Network latency can be pretty minimal in most uses, but there are and will continue to be situations where latency is worse, including spotty or no Internet connection. And while we often get almost instant responses when we type or speak at an AI when we have a good Internet connection, often the response time can still sometimes be annoyingly slow for whatever reasons, and on-device processing is supposed to reduce this issue. You wouldn't want extra, annoying lag times while using FaceID, language translation, augmented reality, etc.

• Many people are concerned about privacy issues in which personal data they reveal about themselves is sent to the cloud while "conversing" with an AI. On-device processing can minimize this issue.
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I don’t really agree with these points. If we don’t trust the supplier of the AI, it is funny that you trust his on device processing to not also ship your data off…

On first point - the features touched by AI generally assume a good internet connection . For example voice control to play a song or work on an email - which would obviously be sent at eventually.

Stepping back - in a more general computing context, most compute has gone to the cloud. This seems very counter trend.
 
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I'm curious what people want from Apple. No one likes Apple Intelligence. No one likes Spatial Computing. No one likes the button on the bottom of the Mac mini (!!!). No one likes anything Apple does. They've clearly lost everything.

I'm sure everyone saw this week how Anthropic, OpenAi and Gemini are just looping Apple with their endless amounts of high-quality content for training and funding... Their future outlook could not look more promising than Apple's...

What is the next big thing everyone here knows about except for Apple? Be specific. They need our help. Quick.
 
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I have an honest question. I’ll admit that I’m ignorant on this subject. I actually think this would be a great theory piece for someone’s thesis to describe LLM, AI, AGI, ASI, and the outcomes of even questioning them. Come on, pet! We have work to do!
 
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The current Apple Intelligence Siri is still really dumb, but at least she's less annoying because you can fumble your words a bit and she will understand... and more importantly, she doesn't derail you anymore by saying "uh huh?" 2 seconds after you start speaking.

But the absolute most annoying thing that Apple WILL NOT FIX is that Siri doesn't differentiate voices!!! I am STILL so sick of her responding to videos I am watching. An LLM Siri sounds exciting but GODDAMNIT APPLE please FIX THIS.
 
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poematik13 said:
Absolutely insane how late to the game they are on this lol.

Just scrap siri entirely, its cooked. Their whole AI effort in general is a joke, very clearly theres hundreds of teams all fighting eachother internally with no steve jobs/elon type figure with a vision directing everybody towards a goal
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What do you think it means to “scrap siri”? The whole point of this article is Apple’s plans to replace Siri with an LLM-based AI.

Old Siri (Like Alexa and Google‘s assistant) uses old AI technology like an expert system. Those systems are brittle and cannot handle ambiguity. None of them were as flexible as the newer chatbots like ChatGPT. They are starting to be replaced by more sophisticated LLM AIs. Yes, Apple is not as far along in that process as Google, but in a couple of years Apple will be close. LLM improvements are starting to slow down as they reach the inherent limits of the LLM technique. Without another break-though in AI approach, LLMs will eventually all reach the same level of capability well short of AGI.
 
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I agree. Tim Cook didn't have the vision to see that Siri should have gone LLM sooner. Heck Siri was ahead of its time, remember when Jobs had it use Wolfram Alfa as a source. If Steve was still around, Siri would have taken the lead on LLM, or at least embraced it quicker.
 
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maxfromdenmark said:
Do we all get the proper Siri before we die?
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I was just thinking the same thing. I’m in my 70s and I don’t expect to see the ramped up Siri. Well, there are certainly more important things in life. But I have been a fan for a while or at least of the concept of Siri. For all these years, all Apple has had is the concept of a plan.
 
johnsawyercjs said:
On-device processing will become even more desirable in the long term, especially with increases in the amount of data crunched and the number of times we use AI in a day. There are several reasons, among them being:

• Network latency can be pretty minimal in most uses, but there are and will continue to be situations where latency is worse, including spotty or no Internet connection. And while we often get almost instant responses when we type or speak at an AI when we have a good Internet connection, often the response time can still sometimes be annoyingly slow for whatever reasons, and on-device processing is supposed to reduce this issue. You wouldn't want extra, annoying lag times while using FaceID, language translation, augmented reality, etc.

• Many people are concerned about privacy issues in which personal data they reveal about themselves is sent to the cloud while "conversing" with an AI. On-device processing can minimize this issue.
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I agree, but I also find the privacy focused approach with Apple Cloud Computing very fascinating and promising (however the partnership with OAI is a privacy disaster in my opinion)
 
HobeSoundDarryl said:
Or buy yourself some great quality "dumb" speakers and let Siri in your phone/iPad/AppleTV be the "smarts."

Smart speakers are like iMac- when any one part goes or the Corp decides it's time- it's over. "Dumb" speakers can sound just as good decades from now… and “another record quarter” objectives can’t dictate any vintaging decisions. Plus, you'll have ever-smarter Siri (hypothetically based on this rumor) on those other Apple devices anyway.

HP is NOT the only way. There's PLENTY of speakers in the world. And the "smarts" part already lives in the other main lines you likely already own. Use them there and NOT have to regularly replace a kind of technology that can otherwise last DECADES. Bonus: about HALF of the purchase that would be profit for Apple can instead have most of that money buying the speaker (because many speaker sellers have much less than towards 50% margin).

Bonus 2: you won't be limited to only Stereo speakers. Start with some good "dumb" speakers and- optionally- over time, add to it to develop up to a true ATMOS setup.
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You probably won’t expect this answer but I already have a pair of KEF LS50 Wireless II (hifi grade speakers). The thing is though that 1. They are just too good for my apartment. For me they are like having a Ferrari but only driving 30/kmh. I’ve also noticed that I don’t play them as much as my HomePod minis because it’s so much faster to say “Hey siri, play this music” and it will start playing on the speaker I’m closest too. Yes I can tell it to play on the living room speakers, but I just don’t find myself doing it.

Another thing is also that the sound from hifi speakers is so directional. While again they sound absolutely amazing, you more or less have to sit infront of the speakers to fully enjoy the sound. I don’t have a subwoofer to the KEFs either and I’ve noticed that when listening to music on my girlfriend’s Marshall Woburn III that the music sounds fuller since they have a built in woofer. The sound is also waaaay wider and even though the KEFs absolutely obliterates the Marshall’s in terms of audio quality, I much prefer the fuller wider sound that the Marshall gives.

I had a full Sonos setup in my home back in the day too and in their app you had the option to play on all speakers “solo”. Meaning that it didn’t necessarily have to be in stereo. This was something I enjoyed a lot when just playing music in general in my home or when I had guests without the focus of sitting down infront of the speakers to experience them fully.

I hope this answer gave you some context. It’s my living situation that limits me unfortunately. Would I have had another living situation I’d buy the KEF LS60 Wireless in a blink of an eye.
 
Elon Musk's xAI built a datacenter with 100,000 H200 in just 19 f*cking days and improving Grok at light speed.

Meanwhile...

Apple: Hold my beer (for at least 2 more years)

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I thought this Apple Intelligence Siri was LLM based. But it looks like it is the same Siri with a new animation.
 
Wiesenlooser said:
Wait I thought thats what Apple Intelligence is now?
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It seems they just shipped the same Siri with a different UI and checked if that works.

By the time they build the actual LLM based Siri, it will be massively outdated and you will see a bunch of people looks like cartel bosses in the keynote talking about it for hours like they invented an entirely new technology.
 
MacMan988 said:
It seems they just shipped the same Siri with a different UI and checked if that works.

By the time they build the actual LLM based Siri, it will be massively outdated and you will see a bunch of people looks like cartel bosses in the keynote talking about it for hours like they invented an entirely new technology.
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So unless Apple has a Time Machine to go back and start work on this three years earlier, they should just give up, right?
 
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Nickjames said:
Been waiting on buying HomePods since the current ones probably won’t support a smarter Siri. Think I might as well buy and sell whenever time is due
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I'm in the same boat as you, but I think I will wait and see what the new Command Center product is all about.
 
Probably why they switched every Mac to a base of 16GB memory. Sounds like I should probably wait at least a couple years before upgrading any of my devices.
 
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