Apple Working on New Device with 5-Inch Retina Display for 2013?

[Tunster]

Get used to it. That is exactly how Apple does it. Introduce a new product and continue to add features and tweaks. OSX is a great example of this. Puma wasn't much different than Cheetah, Jaguar wasn't much different than Puma...and so on. If you compare Lion to Cheetah there are MAJOR differences. The hardware, and other OSes will follow the same philosophy.

Spot on there. We have Samsung, Asus, Sony, Blackberry telling us that there successive products are mind-blowing and succeed with huge specification differences. In reality, this isn't the case. It's just poor marketing seeking desparate sales.

For anyone upgrading from the original iPad (ie Me), there's a huge difference. Thinner chassis, better screen, better internal tech. Apple set their price, and put in the best tech without denting their margins in a mass scale. Fortunately, we're able to benefit from a post-HD screen that other rivals can't touch for a long while because they don't have the demands as Apple do now.

As for this rumour? It's a blog reporting another blog as far as I can tell. Claims are normally far-fetched chinese whispers. Just quoting from the japanese website:

"According to reliable Chinese source, LCD supplior of Apple seems to be developing 5-inch Retina Display."

Okay. Maybe Apple are; but it could just be no more than a prototype for any number of X, Y, Z projects.

Surely Apple would make use of the millions of iOS devices out there as remote controls/tv guides etc?

 

[ixodes]

Can you keep these pictures to non-productive sites like failblog and Facebook please? Personally, I find them seriously annoying, pointless and immature.

I too find them rather childish. However they're very popular & supported on this forum. It's best to remember they're simply a reflection of the Apple demographic.

 

[vojnik]

Here is hoping apple makes side arm HUD like in the Predator movie and blow all speculations about this sized and that sized ipad and iphone

 

[Thunderhawks]

Why do people keep calling it the iPhone 5 when it's going to be the 6th generation iPhone. It will either be the iPhone 6, iPhone LTE, iPhone 4G, or something like that. iPhone 5 would mean it's the 5th iPhone they ever made, which isn't true.

Why do people even get excited about stuff like this?"

It's going to be the NEW iphone

 

[marcusj0015]

Um.... So essentially this? ...
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Some of us own stock.
So some rumors such as those about the fact that Apple included strings in their own code referencing an 4G iPhone give a good hint about features of the next gen of iPhone.
Having this PRETTY SOLID knowledge allows us to make stock purchases BEFORE the official announcement while the price is still low.

That was his point... -_-

 

[griz]

Apple's lines of product generally come in threes. I'm hoping the 5" device is a larger iPod touch. But As for the iPad. I'd like to see a 7", 10" and even a 13 or 15". A larger model may not be as portable, but it would certainly make one heck of an interactive surface for multiplayer games. Would also make the touch points larger and allow apps like Photoshop to really come to life.

 

[SBlue1]

maybe its the next itouch.

 

[APlotdevice]

Well, I think Apple has now set Retina pixel density as 'the bar' for iOS devices; I doubt they'll release any new non-Retina iOS device.

Did you read the quoted comments first? They're not talking about it like a dedicated iOS device. Unless you meant a controller running iOS, which is even more overkill. As a standalone device, as the original post points out, it would complicate things for developers.

 

[animatedude]

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I can't believe ppl are saying this is the Apple TV remote lol! 5 inch for a remote is way too big you fools it's bigger than the Apple TV itself!

IF this is true then it's obviously a bigger iPod touch for gaming...it's perfect for parents who own an iPad but want buy something smaller for tommy to play with so he can go to sleep early..

 

[2 Replies]

That was his point... -_-

"His?" Which commenter? The 1" one?
Because that's quite the assumptive leap for you (another person who can only guess at his point) to make... :-/

 

[whooleytoo]

Did you read the quoted comments first? They're not talking about it like a dedicated iOS device. Unless you meant a controller running iOS, which is even more overkill. As a standalone device, as the original post points out, it would complicate things for developers.

I don't think Apple will release any more non-Retina iOS displays, regardless of whether if it's a phone, tablet or specialised controller/device. Doing so would be a step backward. (IMO, we'll start seeing higher DPI Mac screens as well, for the same reason)

As for the OS a touch-screen controller would use - surely it would have to be iOS, or an iOS variant. It makes sense to standardise and leverage the work already done. If this device is a standalone controller, I doubt if it's going to be just a touchscreen with channel up/channel down and volume buttons, more like an EPG that lets you select the media you wish to view. For that, it would need a full iOS.

 

[MisterMe]

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I can't believe ppl are saying this is the Apple TV remote lol! ...

What you can or cannot believe is irrelevant. The 5" touchscreen device is a rumor. However, it makes no sense for it to be the standard remote for the Apple TV STB. However, Apple has another device rumored to be in the works. It is the Apple HDTV. The rumored 5" touchscreen device sounds like a candidate for the remote for the rumored Apple HDTV.

 

[animatedude]

remember the PSVITA is 5 inch too...

 

[MisterMe]

remember the PSVITA is 5 inch too...

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If by this, you imply that the rumored 5" device may be a dedicated gaming device, then you may put that thought out of your head never to return. You may play games on your iPhone. It is not a dedicated gaming device. You may play games on your iPod touch. It is not a dedicated gaming device. You may play games on your iPad. It is not a dedicated gaming device. Simple logic dictates that you will be able to play games on the rumored 5" device. Like its other iOS siblings, it will not be a dedicated gaming device.

 

[217833]

I'd do accept a larger iPhone screen as long the overall size doesn't change... Which means it could be a 4" with a screen edge to edge.

Anything above is just a no no... All 4.3" Androids, or even worst the Galaxy Note are way too big for a smartphone and way too small for a tablet (which requires at least 7.7" to have a decent usage).

So anything between 4" and 7.7" is just useless for me and it might be the first Apple product I won't buy if Apple release any iPhone or iPad in that size area.

 

[Bartboy919]

I'd do accept a larger iPhone screen as long the overall size doesn't change... Which means it could be a 4" with a screen edge to edge.

Anything above is just a no no... All 4.3" Androids, or even worst the Galaxy Note are way too big for a smartphone and way too small for a tablet (which requires at least 7.7" to have a decent usage).

So anything between 4" and 7.7" is just useless for me and it might be the first Apple product I won't buy if Apple release any iPhone or iPad in that size area.

Is that why the Galaxy Note has pushed out 5 Million devices in a few short months? I am a proud owner of a Galaxy Note, and think Apple would do well to make a larger iPhone, as today it looks like a toy.

 

[animatedude]

If by this, you imply that the rumored 5" device may be a dedicated gaming device, then you may put that thought out of your head never to return. You may play games on your iPhone. It is not a dedicated gaming device. You may play games on your iPod touch. It is not a dedicated gaming device. You may play games on your iPad. It is not a dedicated gaming device. Simple logic dictates that you will be able to play games on the rumored 5" device. Like its other iOS siblings, it will not be a dedicated gaming device.

No no...not dedicated gaming device....it could be a bigger iPod Touch or a smaller iPad i don't care...the 5-inch thing sounds very useless but if you think about it, it actually makes sense for 2 reasons :

1) 5-inch is perfect for gaming like the above PSVITA.
2) it gives parents who own an iPad a chance to buy something smaller and cheaper for their kids.

as you may know, Apple didn't expect games to take off on iPods and iPhones....and they are not gonna ignore that segment at all so it makes sense to start a whole new product line for gaming or release it under the iPod category as a bigger iPod Touch.

to be honest, I WANT APPLE TO RELEASE SOMETHING NEW! i miss the iPad hype....

 

[rijiMacDij]

Please be true Five Inch Rumor!

I, for one, hope the 5 inch device becomes an Apple reality, as there are a few logical reasons for many to prefer that size to the ones that are currently available.

• My iPod touch and iPhone are too small to be very useful to me, I am a baby-boomer with declining eyesight.
• iPod/iPhone apps are too restricted in their scope for me, e.g. you can't see enough list items simultaneously.
• The iPad is a brilliant device, but it won't fit in my pocket.
• I need, and suspect many others do also, a device with more capability than an iPod/iPhone, such as an iPad, that will fit in a jacket pocket.
• Think like a paperback or note pad only DIFFERENT!

In order to make such a device most convenient it would probably help to keep the actual size of the device as small as possible to fit a larger proportion of user's pockets.

It will be interesting to see the long term adoption trend regarding the Samsung Mega-Phone. Imagine how much better Apple could do it.

 

[iClive]

Why do people keep calling it the iPhone 5 when it's going to be the 6th generation iPhone. It will either be the iPhone 6, iPhone LTE, iPhone 4G, or something like that. iPhone 5 would mean it's the 5th iPhone they ever made, which isn't true.

it will be "the new iPhone" trust me on this one

 

[217833]

Is that why the Galaxy Note has pushed out 5 Million devices in a few short months? I am a proud owner of a Galaxy Note, and think Apple would do well to make a larger iPhone, as today it looks like a toy.

I personally tried the Galaxy Note (my close friend has it) and I don't like the form factor. It's not about Android vs. iOS or so... but the size of the unit by itself. So if Apple would do a device with the same size, I wouldn't buy it for the same reason. If you think the iPad doesn't fit your pants, I do think the Galaxy Note doesn't fit my pants.

Indeed, I do have my phone on my pants pockets (and not a suit jacket pocket) and the current iPhone external dimensions are just fine. I do agree we can read very well webpage, books or email and definitely have more "content" to see on the Galaxy Note, but I'd prefer to keep my phone the size of a phone I can have in my pants pocket and use a larger tablet (such the Galaxy 7.7 or the iPad) to actually have a large screen for full content reading experience. Otherwise the iPad let me to do anything I need to do with a "Phone" and the iPad let me to do anything I need to do with a "Tablet" (even thought I do see an interest for a smaller iPad, between 7 and 8").

Also, you might have bigfoot hand, but I don't, and even with my pretty decent size hands, I _can't_ use the Galaxy Note with one hand only, clicking with my thumbs. And I don't want a phone I need two hands or a stylus to use it... And there's also millions of people in my exact same point of view (and I even don't speak about countries with smaller hands people, or for women, etc...)

So 5 Millions vs. Gazillions of other phones... that's good for Samsung and happy Galaxy Note users, but it doesn't prove anything and doesn't mean there's a real market for this size.

It would be like having a 19 or 21" iPad... I'm sure we could find people interested in that form factor, but it doesn't mean it would be a mass market. And Apple only goes on mass market, selling 50+ Millions units... not 5 Millions

PS: And if you do have declining eyesight, change your goggles or just go in options, accessibility, activate zoom feature with 3 fingers and just tap 3 fingers too read and zoom.

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it will be "the new iPhone" trust me on this one

I agree with that. It makes complete sense to be "the new iPhone"...

 

[Moonjumper]

What if was a screen built into the Magic Trackpad?

Virtual controls on your Mac, see the bit of an image you are editing directly under you finger, etc.

 

[marcusj0015]

"His?" Which commenter? The 1" one?
Because that's quite the assumptive leap for you (another person who can only guess at his point) to make... :-/

Yes "His" Most member here are Male, therefore that's a fair assumption to make. The guy that you quoted.
-_-

 

[paulcdb]

i was actually thinking about where apple could easily make a 5" device that i'd buy in an shot and would tie in with apples devices they already have... guess i'll see if i'll be right in a few years, lol

 

[rijiMacDij]

what if was a screen built into the magic trackpad?

Virtual controls on your mac, see the bit of an image you are editing directly under you finger, etc.

nice!

… i personally tried the galaxy note (my close friend has it) and i don't like the form factor. It's not about android vs. Ios or so... But the size of the unit by itself. So if apple would do a device with the same size, i wouldn't buy it for the same reason. If you think the ipad doesn't fit your pants, i do think the galaxy note doesn't fit my pants.
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I would like a 5 inch retina display in a unit of similar dimensions as iPhone 4.​

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… indeed, i do have my phone on my pants pockets (and not a suit jacket pocket) and the current iphone external dimensions are just fine. I do agree we can read very well webpage, books or email and definitely have more "content" to see on the galaxy note, but i'd prefer to keep my phone the size of a phone i can have in my pants pocket and use a larger tablet (such the galaxy 7.7 or the ipad) to actually have a large screen for full content reading experience.
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I have up to 10 tradespersons working for me on up to 8 individual work sites. I need to climb ladders and scaffolding to inspect their work. I need to photograph and document items and enter them into databases. I need to record hours, material use and conditions at various stages of the work. The iPhone is useless for this task and iPad is too large and awkward to carry while climbing, etc. I need a device that fits in an Overall, Apron or Bomber Jacket Pocket.​

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… otherwise the ipad let me to do anything i need to do with a "phone" and the ipad let me to do anything i need to do with a "tablet" (even thought i do see an interest for a smaller ipad, between 7 and 8").
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… it doesn't prove anything and doesn't mean there's a real market for this size.
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Build it and they shall come! Apple's version of the 5 inch iNote would slay the Samsung effort, piggy-backing on the merits of the other successful IOS devices.​

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… ps: And if you do have declining eyesight, change your goggles or just go in options, accessibility, activate zoom feature with 3 fingers and just tap 3 fingers too read and zoom.
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I do have dimished eyesight, so do those who will soon be the majority of humans in the western world, the baby boomers. Goggles, or reading spectacles, are inconvenient to wear on site and dangerous to walk around with as they distort vision, resulting in the ground, ladder rungs, planks, and stairs appearing curved and closer than they actually are, making you look like your are staggering around drunk or munted on the job! Also, being able to see 3 big words and nothing else is pretty useless.​

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i agree with that. It makes complete sense to be "the new iphone"...

 

[217833]

I would like a 5 inch retina display in a unit of similar dimensions as iPhone 4.

Oh yeah.. if it keeps the current iPhone dimensions, I do agree with you. I would even love any larger screen for the iPhone as long it keeps similar dimensions. However, I think we're closer to the 4" than 5", even with a edge to edge screen... It might be a little bit more than 4" if there's no buttons at all. Well, I'm not sure thought, I should measure it if nobody already did.

But if it's to get the current Galaxy Note dimensions, that's definitely too big for me. (but I'm only talking for myself, it might be the perfect size for other people).

I have up to 10 tradespersons working for me on up to 8 individual work sites. I need to climb ladders and scaffolding to inspect their work. I need to photograph and document items and enter them into databases. I need to record hours, material use and conditions at various stages of the work. The iPhone is useless for this task and iPad is too large and awkward to carry while climbing, etc. I need a device that fits in an Overall, Apron or Bomber Jacket Pocket.

From what I see, I do the exact same use of the phone (photograph, document, modify documents, entry datas, etc...) and it works for me.

What I mean is: everyone's different. From the size we carry to the usage. Carry on an iPad on a ladder is indeed awkward. And have it in a "meeting room" is not, the same way using one app might be perfect for one use and not for another.

I do believe (I might be wrong), it's more about adequate apps you need to do your job the way you want to do, don't you think?

The only thing I could think about for the screen size, is the use of handwriting (with fingers or stylus). More space might be easier for that kind of use. Otherwise, it's pretty much the same. For instance, to take a picture, a 3.5" or a 5.3" doesn't make much difference. What you only need is a shutter button and a good quality picture.

From what I understand, maybe you could just develop a dedicated App for your usage. There's no need to go through the App Store process for 10 persons, and most of the time it's even better to have something that match perfectly your usage instead to switch between Apps. There might be a little cost for development if you're not programmer, but in the end there's a real benefit. That's definitely something any business owner should also consider. We never think about it, but we can get the developer kit for $99 and start developing a dedicated and special apps that will do the job even better for our company.

Just thinking out loud