The Mac is a bit of an outlier, in other areas I think things are pretty close e.g. iPhone 12 vs 12 Pro, iPad Air vs iPad Pro, MB Air vs MBP 13". It'd be super cool to see Apple offering some decent mid range desktops & monitors for people who do not want a iMac, but suspect this is a pipe dream.
Nope, just professionals who use their machines to make money and do not have time to waste trying to configure some something else, nor to learn Windows.
They waited 7 years and then announced a transition that will occur 1 to 2 years after the machine went on sale.
They think that actual professional users care about having a machine that fills their needs. If Apple is able to meet their needs with a smaller box that matches or exceeds the performance of the current Mac Pro, most of the professionals I know would be completely happy with that. I hear these complaints mostly from people outside the target market.
Having had several of the original Mac Pro systems (and even one of the dev boxes), I have now idea what you where you come up with this idea. There was almost no free space in those machines. They had drive bays, giant heatsinks, and some space for slots that, while most users never filled, was needed if they wanted to offer expansion options.
Are you talking about the current iMac that is as thin as can be? The system’s size is mostly determined by the size of its display.
I guess we will have to see what Apple is able to do with its silicon. If Apple is interested in challenging the high end (and it does seem like they are), I expect that neither AMD nor intel with their older processes and designs will “blow their doors off.” I guess we can ask @cmaier who used to design AMD CPUs, what he thinks.
Not sure why you would want one given that you think they are both ugly and slow. I expect that we will see them hit the used market when Apple begins shipping Apple Silicon Mac Pros.
No, three years is the outside for replacement in most studios where I have consulted. Sometimes systems are replaced every other year, but never less often than once every three years. After three years there is enough performance improvement to justify new systems. The cost of the professional’s time exceeds the cost of the hardware, and being able to increase their performance easily makes it worth it.
Therein lies the rub: not many games on Mac because there aren't many Mac gamers. There aren't many Mac Gamers because there aren't many games. Quite a catch-22. I really doubt it, but still hope that Apple will put out a great graphics system (both hardware & underlying software), and gets a big name game designer to make an optimized game engine and game, so that more gamers & game developers come to Mac/iOS.
You keep insinuating that $50K is what everyone is paying for the 2019 Mac Pro when the median spend on one is closer to $20,000 or less. I specced out a 16-core w/Dual 5700X, 32GB DRAM, AfterBurner, 4TB SSD and AC+ for $13,447.00 and even spending another $629.00 for 96GB of 6-channel third-party DRAM I end up at right around $14,000 for a machine that will do everything for most people who need it. Simply leasing these on an Apple Business Lease for 24- or 30-months with a buyout option is what most smaller businesses will opt for and those who are single person operations can either buy or lease OR look at a 10-core 27” iMac given it’s relative oomph depending on the apps they use most. Having been on the purchasing end of multiple leases for graphic designers, three years is about the most creatives can handle before they are itching to pull the trigger on something newer, faster, better. Those who seriously invested in the Mac Pro know what they are getting into and will plan accordingly. I suspect you’re looking at it from an end-user perspective that is devoid of how a business (especially one full of creative professionals) make their tech purchases.
Well, I can get you a set for 4 nVME drives that size for less than the price of this car.
Sorry if I wasn't clear – I am happy for now with the heavily upgrade cMP 2009 – but I already see this machine won't last forever and the new tower-like Mac Pro form factor would be a good upgrade in 1-2 years probably.Pick up a spare here for less than $1000! I mean, if your needs are met by an old system, why even bother with something new?
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Depends on your use case scenario. I've got a 2008 iMac that I still use every day within my business because it is still incredibly useful. 12 years old and it's still running as though it has just come out of the box. As a result, it's cost me less than 30 pence per day to run and yet has yielded income many tens of times its purchase price. I could offload it for around £100 given it has the maximum specs available on it and even then, for the right person, it will still be a bit of a bargain.
Apple use PCIe storage on iPhone since A9.
If linus knew anything about CPUs he wouldn’t have gotten involved in that transmeta mess.
Server chips, you do know AMD's top Epyc chip crushes Intel's? It's 28 vs 64 cores.
The thing is that the Unity (the defacto king at ~60% developer usage) already has an ARM version of its engine out there and for the small timer who doesn't want to code there is Godot and GDevelop both of which can, right now, produce iOS (ie ARM) games.
The scores are what matters. It's 5.9% faster, not a big difference. It costs $4K instead of $3K for the Xeon. That makes the AMD chip super not worth. Usually AMD's offerings are budget-friendly because they're also considered the second-tier brand, so that's weird. Their mid-range chips are a better value than Intel's IIRC.
