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I thought they would have learned their lesson with the trash can Mac Pro... Pros tend to like more extension space, not less, after all.
 
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Third redesign in a row with no updates in between? Great job, Apple.

I really don't know where their heads are at with the Macs these days. Why can't they make a modular desktop with internal expansion capabilities (drive bays, PCI slots, and memory) and a CHOICE OF GRAPHICS CARD VENDOR that doesn't cost an arm and a leg? Seriously, $6k for a nearly empty chassis??

The Mac Pro used to be a be-all-do-all machine. An enthusiast could get one for an attainable amount ($2500 to $3k for a mid-range, anyone?) and know they could upgrade a component in a couple years to keep it relevant, while a pro (or a rich person) could configure one out the wazoo and have the fastest computer in their county for the next six months. Further, they could be configured for any use case -- gaming, music production, video production, 3D rendering, high performance CPU, or any combo of those. Now, unless you are a video pro, forget it, there are much more cost-effective options on the PC side.

And the iMac (pro or regular)? Not an option. 1/3 of the cost of those machines is the expensive screen that is going to get thrown away in three years because the other components are obsolete.

So frustrating. This is why I haven't updated since my cMP 4,1 (flashed and CPU upgraded).

You must be feeling frustrating most of these days then, it's all around, you get less for more money nowadays.
I see this everywhere, privately and business wise.
Cost cutting to the absurd, I see this on a daily basis, it goes to such lengths that we can sometimes barely do our jobs anymore, what bothers me even more is that at the top there's plenty of money for fancy cars/iPhones and bonuses but on the work floor you have to do the job with rubbish materials/tools.
Yes, I am frustrated...sometimes. ;)
 
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New AMD Radeon RX 6000 series graphics card, not compatible with the Mac Pro. It is a shame a $6K computer can't use these. But make it smaller that should be effective.
 

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The majority of Mac users don't need Windows/*bootcamp, also, lots of Microsoft apps are available for macOS, even for businesses.

*Btw, you don't need bootcamp to install windows on an Intel Mac.

I usually use rEFInd to install any OS but the lack of Windows support will be a no go.
 
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The current Mac Pro, aside from the price, is perfect. Why mess with it? It delivers exactly what the pros wants.
 
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I don’t think a Mac Pro that’s half the size of the current model will provide all the power, upgradeability and expandability the current model has. There is just no room for components if they make the tower that much smaller.
 
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I feel bad for the people that dropped over 50K for one of the Intel models.

Why? Companies spending $50K are likely making money with it in all sorts of creative endeavors. And it will be supported for at least eight years. If your company needs it, doing without waiting for something else down the road is not an option.
 
Love to see another G4 styled cube.
They missed their chance by keeping the cylindrical Mac Pro expensive (Xeon + ECC RAM) and unmaintained (no BTO options for GPU, no hardware upgrades) for years, then discontinuing it because they listened to stupid fans and media who thought that going back to ATX will make things better or cheaper and claimed that the only "pro" users around are youtubers and Hollywood videographers while the rest can live with iMacs.
 
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I feel bad for the people that dropped over 50K for one of the Intel models.
I feel bad for people who can't afford to make big purchases like these and think it hurts us.

I feel bad for the Intel buyers

Don't feel bad for us people who can afford it. Really. (1) We don't blink an eye. (2) Our money is well spent and recouped on the first project alone. (3) Any other projects thereafter is pure profit. (4) We will do this all over again when the latest Mac Pro comes out.
 
You must be feeling frustrating most of these days then, it's all around, you get less for more money nowadays.
I see this everywhere, privately and business wise.
Cost cutting to the absurd, I see this on a daily basis, it goes to such lengths that we can sometimes barely do our jobs anymore, what bothers me even more is that at the top there's plenty of money for fancy cars/iPhones and bonuses but on the work floor you have to do the job with rubbish materials/tools.
Yes, I am frustrated...sometimes. ;)
Not sure what you're getting at. The problem is cost inflation, not cost cutting. Pay double what you used to and get less (compared to the wider market conditions). Plus, the added joy of Apple telling you what you should be using it for. I'll decide that myself, thank you very much. Just give me the slots and the power.
 
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This would be amazing if it was an ITX style motherboard with 1 full size pci-e port for a graphics card. I built a pc with an H1 case, it’s the perfect size, taller than the trash can was but expandable. Give it 256GB ram limit and a super fast clock speed CPU and it would be an amazing machine for photoshop.
 
Maybe Apple will include a GTX 3080 or RX 6900 XT in these :D
I doubt it. Apple hates nVidia with a brainless passion, can't stand the opportunity to withhold a powerful consumer card in place of a "pro" card that costs double for no extra power, and is developing their own GPU anyway.
 
I wouldn't call the previous (4,1 and 5,1) Pro-sumer, maxed out they were serious workhorses, 192GB RAM 2.93, 12 core Xeon, 4 drive bays...in 2010 was pretty hefty...at $12-15K. NFL Films is still running them for 4K

True but you could get the base model and add RAM, drives, GPU, etc from an older Mac Pro that was upgraded or third party and get a solid machine for a fraction. i’m not talking a fully loaded machine as most of us don’t need a loaded Mac Pro. The base model 2019 Mac Pro is three times the price of the older base models mostly for AfterBurner support and a logic board that is custom to support high end film production, etc. A simple tower as before without be perfect. Think mid-tower system with a standard logic board and internal drive support and upgradable third party RAM, GPU.
 
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Here we go again with Apple trying to make it thinner and lighter for a PRO DESKTOP model that demands good airflow and internal expandability. I'm running out of internal space to expand and now they're making it half the size?

If it's for a consumer model, that's definitely a welcome addition I'd buy my kids. If it's to replace the current Mac Pro and limit internal expansion - I'd be evaluating how they market this for the Pro users like myself.

Curious to see where this actually develops into.
 
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