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How about making Safari work with most websites first. Just had another one today. Switched to Brave and wallah, it just works (to coin an out-of-date Apple phrase).
 
Tab switching is mediocre; abusive ads make the phone warm and Safari does not control them;
And don’t get me started in mail app… zooming in and out a million times a day when the same emails are auto adjusted in Android. Tim does not uses and iPhone, that is for SURE.
Hardware is ok, just uninspired features since 5 years ago. “Camera styles”… c’mmon Apple, the Chinese phones are millions of times more inspired.
Pathetic me for buying a new iPhone every year. Except maybe this year… pill shaped notch is the main upgrade?, more mega pixels?. How about HDR switch?!!!, etc….
 
Apple’s own Developer Portal doesn’t render correctly in their own browser, Safari, making it impossible to accept Developer agreements. You have to use Chrome or Firefox, and the Safari Team lead woman has the stones to get offended that people think Safari is bad. ?
Yeah that was one of the most bizarre tweets I have seen from a professional representing a company. Very passive aggressive and unprofessional.

Also fix Safari.
 
Yay, that's cool. And doing something about those GDPR-inspired (it is, right?) cookie consent-related pop-ups sure would be nice at the browser level. (I mean, what would be nicer is if web sites were designed user-centrically and didn't use cookies whose functions were beyond what you might find in a real building serving the same function as the site does, but hey, that would make sense, and some companies can't have that.)
 
Considering how Safari already has per-site configuration options, it's weird that this already wasn't a thing since the beginning.

Also, I want a dark mode override option for individual apps, too. I use this one app that recently added a dark mode but did an absolutely terrible job at it, to a point where I have to switch my entire system to light mode while using it. Very annoying!
 
Noir works great for me. Not perfect sometimes but still exceptionally nice. For example on Wikipedia, equations or chemical diagrams are not transformed to white colours
 
Unfortunately, yes. See https://testufo.com

If you visit this website with a 120hz device using Safari you’ll see a notice that the framerate is locked at 60fps. This issue does not exist in Chrome (on macOS)
Is this still The case on the latest Safari 15.4 (macOS 12.3) beta? It supposedly enables proper 120 Hz across the entire browser for the new MacBook Pro‘s.
Same question for the latest beta of iOS 15.4, which enables universal 120 Hz animations across third-party applications.
If this problem has been solved, then it should only be an issue for the majority of consumers for about the next week I would assume before the new version releases to the public
 
As an app and web developer I completely agree that “Safari is the new IE”. Every web app we make must be specifically optimized for Safari because they simply don’t follow web standards. They also lack features without good reason, e.g. webkit animation is locked at 60fps, even if you have a 120hz display. Regex expressions lookbehind, which was standardized in 2018, still doesn’t work. And Safari is the only browser lagging behind. Just look at how many StackOverflow questions there are asking why xxx works on Chrome & Firefox but not Safari. If it weren’t for the iOS ecosystem we would have dropped Safari support already.

If Safari wasn’t preinstalled on Apple systems, I assume the majority of users would choose Chromium based browsers or Firefox instead. If this assumption turns out to be true, then Safari is undoubtedly the new IE.
We also had the most bizarre problems show up in Safari. For example, an element with "position: fixed" would position itself relative to its parent when we toggled the style via JavaScript! Temporarily removing the DOM node was the only efficient fix we found. In another case, we had images in Swiper render totally skewed – only in Safari, of course. The only way to fix that was some hack with requestAnimationFrame...
 
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Apple’s own Developer Portal doesn’t render correctly in their own browser, Safari, making it impossible to accept Developer agreements. You have to use Chrome or Firefox, and the Safari Team lead woman has the stones to get offended that people think Safari is bad. ?
What do you mean? I have accepted the developer agreements multiple times in the past years for both of my developer accounts and and I’ve always used Safari
 
Still waiting for web and OS devs to jump on the "grey mode" train... light mode is usually too bright, dark mode is too dark, we need an even ground.
 
Nope.
That's a sort of glib-slash-edgy soundbite comment trying to riff off the old Internet Explorer meme, but not actually true in this case.

I repair macs here in Japan and the very vast majority don't have chrome installed, or if they do it's some ancient version that hasn't been used/updated in years. Most laypeople seem satisfied with Safari.
I much prefer Safari over Chrome. It's demonstrably faster than Chrome (e.g. see how long https://geo.skra.is/landeignaskra/ loads in Chrome vs. Safari - similarly Chrome doesn't even update property info as you click on different properties on that web site). In my experience, it also uses far less memory than Chrome. The only time I use Chrome is when I go to a foreign language web site (again, see above example of an Icelandic one). Chrome is much better at auto-translating than Safari. Not only is it done more intuitively/automatically in Chrome, but Chrome also supports vastly more languages than Safari. E.g. Safari doesn't support Icelandic.
 
What do you mean? I have accepted the developer agreements multiple times in the past years for both of my developer accounts and and I’ve always used Safari
Couldn’t do it this year for me. Wouldn’t work. Had to reach out to Apple before I googled and found the work around
 
Debatable. I much more prefer Safari over Chrome's UI and since Apple changed how they distributed extensions a couple of years ago all of the extensions I need are available.
Apple killed the already pathetic extension support Safari with version 12. Its broke things like Ublock Orgin, which is 1000x better than any other ad-blocker on Safari today.

I use Edge these days. All the Chromium website support, and features like profiles, minus the Google bad taste. Not to mention it works on Windows and Linux as well.
 
Nope.
That's a sort of glib-slash-edgy soundbite comment trying to riff off the old Internet Explorer meme, but not actually true in this case.

I repair macs here in Japan and the very vast majority don't have chrome installed, or if they do it's some ancient version that hasn't been used/updated in years. Most laypeople seem satisfied with Safari.
Yes, I run into people on the Mac and Windows that use the default browsers, with ZERO extensions, just plain default browser settings. Usually, their computers a mess as well, desktop littered with all kinds of stuff they do not use anymore etc.

If you install say, Ublock Orgin on a Chromium browser and spend 2min showing them how it works many are almost in tears of joy. Especially if you go over to YouTube where they NEVER see an add again.

That said I personally run into way too many people that MUST HAVE Chrome of they can't seem to function, on the Mac or Windows.
 
I much prefer Safari over Chrome. It's demonstrably faster than Chrome (e.g. see how long https://geo.skra.is/landeignaskra/ loads in Chrome vs. Safari - similarly Chrome doesn't even update property info as you click on different properties on that web site). In my experience, it also uses far less memory than Chrome. The only time I use Chrome is when I go to a foreign language web site (again, see above example of an Icelandic one). Chrome is much better at auto-translating than Safari. Not only is it done more intuitively/automatically in Chrome, but Chrome also supports vastly more languages than Safari. E.g. Safari doesn't support Icelandic.
Wow you found the single web page that Safari works better on. There are probably 1000 sites that do not work well in Safari for every 1 you find that the case to be with a Chromium browser.

If you add up the market share for Chrome, Edge, Brave, Vavaldi and Opera you are at 80% of desktop top browser market share. Safari and Firefox split the last 20%. The point is the Internet is "Chromium" first when it comes to web development simply because of the market share numbers. I know developers that only test against Chrome and with those numbers I get it. Not ideal for sure.
 
Couldn’t do it this year for me. Wouldn’t work. Had to reach out to Apple before I googled and found the work around
Wow that’s bizarre. I NEVER had a problem with accepting agreements that wasn’t simply “I am not allowed to” (I’ve done some contract work and every single time they gave me access to a developer account that can’t do squat because of the agreements not being accept ?‍♂️)
 
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Wow that’s bizarre. I NEVER had a problem with accepting agreements that wasn’t simply “I am not allowed to” (I’ve done some contract work and every single time they gave me access to a developer account that can’t do squat because of the agreements not being accept ?‍♂️)
Yeah. Took a while to figure out what was up. Definitely bizarre.
 
The focus on colors in Safari is funny. First it was that odd default where websites can change the color of Safari's UI, which in many cases made things hard to read. Surprised it passed accessibility tests.
 
am I the only one who's never had a real problem with safari? its fast, simple and generally efficient here. occasionally it has issues with some government or medical websites but Macs in general had issues with some websites for decades
You're fine as long as you keep it up to date, which requires updating your entire OS to the very latest version all the time. Otherwise, sites break in it. That's annoying, and the lack of good ad blockers makes it a no-go for me, so I use Firefox instead except for important things like banking.
 
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