Apple Working on Safari Dark Mode Toggle for Viewing Specific Websites

[sudo-sandwich]

Apple’s own Developer Portal doesn’t render correctly in their own browser, Safari, making it impossible to accept Developer agreements. You have to use Chrome or Firefox, and the Safari Team lead woman has the stones to get offended that people think Safari is bad. ?

Same with iCloud.com sometimes. Had other Safari-related issues with the dev portal, but it wasn't on the agreement page.

 

[sudo-sandwich]

As an app and web developer I completely agree that “Safari is the new IE”. Every web app we make must be specifically optimized for Safari because they simply don’t follow web standards. They also lack features without good reason, e.g. webkit animation is locked at 60fps, even if you have a 120hz display. Regex expressions lookbehind, which was standardized in 2018, still doesn’t work. And Safari is the only browser lagging behind. Just look at how many StackOverflow questions there are asking why xxx works on Chrome & Firefox but not Safari. If it weren’t for the iOS ecosystem we would have dropped Safari support already.

If Safari wasn’t preinstalled on Apple systems, I assume the majority of users would choose Chromium based browsers or Firefox instead. If this assumption turns out to be true, then Safari is undoubtedly the new IE.

Yeah, it was great til maybe 2014, and it's meh now. Though I wouldn't call it IE – that's reserved for the browser that keeps making itself default, complains when you download something else, has generally been total garbage at times, and formerly used its dominance to intentionally shift web standards around to break other browsers.

 

[cgs1xx]

Hopefully this will lead to other options of the dark theme, i.e.: switching it on for Music only!! Music looks great on a dark background.

 

[svish]

Maybe for the next major OS release in June at WWDC

 

[antibolo]

Safari is the IE of the Mac. The browser you use to get the one you really want.

I bet you're too young to remember the dark ages of IE6.

Safari has never been anywhere near as bad.

 

[GraXXoR]

Although it can vary a bit by region, Safari does appear to be the go-to browser for most Apple OS users. Global Apple OS market share is currently around 23.7% while Safari market share is around 19.3%. Since Safari is only available for Apple OS, that would suggest that around 81.4% browser usage on Apple OS is with Safari.

That would back up my Mac repair experience here in Tokyo.. I'd go as far as to say it's likely higher than 80% safari use here... Japanese people are notoriously conservative and generally stick with the stock experience for the most part.

I just want a default key combination for "TAKE THIS STUPID COMPUTER OUT OF DARK MODE RIGHT NOW!"

I HATE dark mode. It's like going back to the bad old days of 1980 when dark mode was all we had.

Create a simple AppleScript and tie it to a hotkey:

tell application "System Events"
  tell appearance preferences
    set dark mode to not dark mode
  end tell
end tell

Or even simpler, create an automation script to toggle it.

--Change System Appearance:
Change Appearance: Toggle Light/Dark

I prefer dark mode for coding and when watching videos.

am I the only one who's never had a real problem with safari? its fast, simple and generally efficient here. occasionally it has issues with some government or medical websites but Macs in general had issues with some websites for decades

Nope, I use Safari well over 90% of the time when on Mac. It's so much faster and lighter on resources than chrome and the interface is much cleaner and 100% vanilla. I only use chrome to access Google Maps and Google Docs and some of my chrome bookmarks which are not synced with my safari ones. And it has an extension for the game Star Citizen that is not available on any other browser.

I know one website that won't let me change the password in Safari for some reason. Every 90 days I have to use Chrome to update my password as per their website's policy.

I just did this yesterday, accepting a dev agreement and it worked perfectly fine for me in Safari.

I have never had a problem with Apple's websites using Safari, since I've only ever logged on to Apple sites using safari since I got my first Powerbook in 2005 or thereabouts. I suspect the person who is having trouble is an outlier.